Rumors! We Got Rumors!
After the rumor mill seemed to be treading water for a few weeks, end of year stories begin to pop up. How about these boys and girls:
- Heard about this one before it was posted in some of the threads, but there might be some exempt movement Friday as the new captains requirements take effect. Are they going to bust some people back down to lieutenant? Or are they going to bust them UP to commander? And doesn't this just make a mockery of the ENTIRE promotional system? You can't qualify for one spot, so they promote you to a spot where there are NO requirements - just a phone call. Ms. Brennan! Call for you on SCC Blog!
- As if the department wasn't short enough - rumors of a NEW UNIT are being bandied around. Where this manpower is going to come from is unknown, but look for it to be run out of 35th Street by a whole boatload of politically connected people. The focus? Quality of Life issues - like buildings. "The Broken Window" theory of policing comes to Chicago in full force - but without the manpower necessary to implement it.
- And speaking of manpower - anyone catch the Supe on the radio saying Property Crimes are going to be a major initiative of the department in 2006? Maybe all those districts being short a car or two every shift is finally coming home to roost? As we stated, property crime numbers are climbing - especially in the areas where manpower is shortest.
posted by SCC at 3:30 PM
94 Comments:
Yeah I am the first post and 812 3rd watch still blows!
Then move out of that rat hood already.
Anyone hear about the 005th District officer (fem.) who drove over to 004 on duty and decked her ex-boyfriend's new sweetie pie?
Nope, tell us more!!
Bank robberies and other "property crimes" are at an all-time high city wide, I guess fat boy didn't realize that the "Joe McCarthy" approach isn't fool-proof.
Here is some information. Even if you are against meritorious promotions, Captains being bumped up to EXEMPT (from the Shakman Decree and Civil Service) is a non-issue.
Those promotions are EXEMPT from Shakman and CAN use patronage to fill them in that they are Policy making positions.
So even if they do promote all of those unqualified Captains to exempt its a NON-ISSUE!
Captains don't make policy. they are watch commanders. They are appointed, not promoted.
there was a story going around that 10-12 (?) Capts do not have a four year college degree; the deadline (we all know about deadlines) for them to have that degree is Dec 31, '05....so, they should be demoted, no? Also rumors around that many of them are in the process of leaving, looking for other jobs, etc....
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Everyone get their no smoking in the squad cars after 16 Jan letters today? This is written by a guy who has a better chance of catching AIDS for what he puts in mouth,than I have catching cancer from a cigarette.And I will continue smoking in the station/squad car,and all you P/C anti smoking nazis can kiss my ass!
"Anonymous said...
Captains don't make policy. they are watch commanders. They are appointed, not promoted.
12/30/2005 04:16:34 PM"
The Captain's promotion policy was agreed to by the Captain's Union.
I am well aware they are watch commanders.
I said Exempts make policy.
Captain to Commander and Above is Considered a Promotion.
Read what I said for the love of God!
Fact - Personnel was split into two Divisions.
*Background investigations, hiring, recruiting, and the Random Drug Testing Unit are part of the "old Personnel Division" - headed by a Cmdr. (2nd floor)
*Tuition reimbursement, Pre-Retirement Seminars, military activations, the Medical Section, performance ratings, and selection processes created in-house(without consultants) are part of the new Division. Also hear they'll focus on development type issues. It's headed by a civilian director who had been in the "old" Personnel Division.
ABC-TV Ch. 7 at 2100 hrs. TONIGHT:
"20/20" with John Stossel on MYTHS, including...
"Gun Control Stops Crime"
Will the mainstream media finally tell the politically incorrect TRUTH? We shall see...
try this for pending jobs:
ESM G/(district; three digits, ie., 025) S/WAI (space between the M and the G, also between the last district digit and the S....don't know if it will work on all PDT's, it does seem to work inside the station....
It's only one Captain doesn't have the education.
There is a rise in theft by Deception in 023. O'Grady is getting paid, and he's not the police.
Ron Hummerman is smoking the pole.
It's only one Captain doesn't have the education.
12/30/2005 06:45:28 PM
WRONG
Property crimes are up, who cares only a legit property owner can be a victim of a property crime. The only thing were concerned about at CPD is the health and safety of the savage gang bangers in da hood.
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Says the man only known as "SIR DONKEY"!
someone tell me one of the Capt's getting booted is the royal bitch herself...AKA "capt" White!
i don't think so...she has more than one college degree...
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Didn't that Jiminie Curry take up a collection for some charity event and then, when the collected-for event didn't happen, not return the money to the cops on the watch? And he never said a word about it?
Nate Hamilton and Randy Barton are the only two who have yet to get their degree. There was a thrid but he already turned in his bars.
third
Third: Rick Elmer..who is a good guy
what about the guy in 008...and Parra, who is short of a degree, and....
This is why this site is so fucked up. I know Elmer has a masters degree from Chicago State.
does a degree from Chicago State count.....as a degree?
The guy in 008 is the guy who gave up his Capt bars already. Didn't want to out him by name since he had the courtesy of following the rules instead of waiting for Brother Dana to come to the rescue. Para has a masters degree from University of HDO with an undergrad in LAPA
This is why you are retarded, I worked in 013 up until recently...Capt. Elmer is an excellent boss and a stand up guy. He's been a captain for about 5 years...but does not have a degree.
who's retarded? I mean, how can one respond if one doesn't know if he/she is the target? As far as Capt. Elmer, never met the man, will take your word for it that he is a great boss....but, maybe he should have gotten a degree (if he doesn't have one, even if from one of the many degree factories), or....maybe the city should not have imposed a degree requirement for the Capts (lord knows there are enough wack jobs as Capts that the degree requirement is questionable at best)...here's one for you...how many and which of the current exempts do not have a college degree?
Better watch out or Jiminie Curry will kick your ass, NOT! Maybe he'll have his wife do it. Her head is bigger than his torso.
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Anonymous said...
This is why this site is so fucked up. I know Elmer has a masters degree from Chicago State.
12/30/2005 09:57:25 PM
No you are fucked up. I worked with Elmer in 015...
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Anonymous, real balls, opinions expressed with identity hidden because of pure fear. Happy New Year.
a mockery of the whole promotional system?
youre kidding right?
That coming from an anonymous poster calling another anonymous poster ball-less is a real stroke of courage.
Happy New Year to you and to all of our brothers and sisters in blue.
This site thread is f**kin precious! Ha..ha..ha.......
This site is a CANCER. Its absolutley HORRIBLE.
1611 where are you....ZZZ ZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZ
CURRY is the real POLICE!
SCC is Curry!
Ah Fuck it...I'm SCC.
He sure is the real police, just ask him.
I guess every person is entitled to his/her opinion but to disrespect the desceased mother of a police officer is wrong no matter how you look at it. Not very professional boys! Other than that I hope eveyone has a safe and happy new years eve and may we all return for check off with great stories to share on ssc!
I would rather have him show up and put the boot to some guy I'm fighting with then have some P.O. show up and do nothing at all.Jimmy's a unique individual to say the least but his hearts in the right place to any working cop in the district. and if you can't find a paper jumper in 025. the get your eyes checked before the insurance runs out- u need it.
ME thinks a certain Sgt and former P.O. from 025 is Sir Donkey and his initials are B.L.
I was listening to the radio when the 5th Dist female cop called in her "Emergency Squad!" and I quote her next words were, "Squad I'm havin a domestic here!" This moron then says, over the air mind you, that she is fighting with her ex's new girlfriend. Officer stupid proceeds to request a sergeant(?) and then gives her location...in the friggin 4th Dist. Hilarious!!!!
wasn't barton the commander of 009? then they dumped him to watch commander? midnights??? in 011???
he should be demoted to p.o..
TOOL
I heard Mauer is holding a Suuuper Seeekret study group at the airport for connected civilians taking the police test.
The only study group Maurer would be qualified to run is the kind WHERE YOU GIVE AWAY THE ANSWERS.
I will drink to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Capt's need a degree?? No problem go to some B.S. College like Lewis / Calumet - they're giving away degress just for siging up...if the Capt's are too lazy notto show up for class, rip off papers from the internet and still get an A, then they deserve to be demoted!!
SCC: can you please give the 12/30/05 10:07 pm post boy and the 1613 and 812 haters somewhere they can spoon each other in peace. MAybe they can take turns on each other,so as to take out the anger they hold. 10:07, DUDE relax! Whatever that organization did to you, you sound like you are Jag enough that someone else is due to make your life miserable "Woe is me I cant get ahead because ....."
Does anyone really think the city gives a flying fuck if you have a degree from Lewis/Calumet or Harvard? They dont, it was another way to make sure that their sons and daughters get a leg up on the competition. What makes these 5 year (or less)wonders believe that a LAS or business degree make them a better cop, detective, whatever than then time and experience. In 06 I will be recieving my masters from Loyola, It took 20 years of raising a family and being on this job for me to get it. I am not better than any copper who does not have a piece of paper, just lucky. We all have different paths in life. Not everyone was lucky enough to be able to go away to school and still live with mommy and daddy before coming on this job. If your degree makes you so much better, why the hell are you on this job and site crying and moaning.
Hey! I miss Maurer - not. He is the only person I know that is goofy enough to give away pictures OF HIMSELF as Christmas gifts!
To the LOYOLA GRAD>>
Congrats and well said!
This degree issue is out of control. A college education can broaden your experiences and edify your cultural exposure to global issues. It can perhaps demonstrate a measure of discipline––that is––your determination to finish a degree. A college degree may also provide an ability to express oneself on paper; at least a little better that a CPS HS graduate.
Unfortunately, a degree does make you a good policeman, sergeant or even a commander. It does not even provide the structure for being a god damn manager. A degree does not instill common sense, people skills, compassion, valor, courage and the integrity it takes to be the police or to command and lead other officers.
I maintain that possessing a college degree can improve your quality of life. I guarantee it will not necessarily improve the quality or capability of a manger or supervisor.
Jims a great guy and an even better cop. His heart is in the right place & he would never fuck over another cop. Be a man & tell jim how you feel about him...just let me know where so I can enjoy him kicking your Bitch Ass.
Sorry about that mispelled word- I was doing some X & chasing it down with Vodka when I hit the wrong key....BURP!!! Sorry.
The other captain who did not have a degree and retired rather than be demoted was Tom REILLY. REILLY was most recently assigned to 015, read dumped, from 014, where his lack of a degree didn't hinder him from telling then commander Maher what she could do with it.
Degree's don't make the man, but in the right hands a diploma from a real college, for a real degree, coupled with common sense, integrity, and street experience can be dangerous.
Most of the bosses on this job parley bullshit continuing education credits, or life skills credits from the City Wide College Unit into a bullshit degree from Lewis. And you can spot them in a minute. They're not qualified to sweep floors in a 010th District carcineria, yet their bomb throwing Division St. clout ensures their advancement to ensure racial parity in the Captains or exempt ranks on the police department. Let's see, where did the present superintendent get his degree's? Loyola? DePaul? Grinnell? Notre Dame? How many times did Daley repeat the state Bar exam? Now there's an educated man.
I was once a big proponent of a degree requirement for promotion on this job. I thought it might serve to nuetralize somewhat the effects of affirmative action on this job. That was before I relaized who didn't have a degree-the white male who got out of high school in the mid to late sixties, served in Viet Nam, came home and raised and provided for a family without being on the dole or stealing to get what he needed. In contrast to the other "groups" who are on the dole from cradle to grave. And all the grants and aid and free college still can't make a silk purse from a sows ass.
When the white voters in this cow town finally get a clue and dump Daley, Lipinski, Madigan, etc., and the other democrats who have used race as a divider in this town, only then might there be a chance for reform of the hiring and promotion policys on the Department.
Hey 9:39---I have that degree from Lewis and it wasn't given to me for showing up so shut your pie hole and step off.
Did you struggle to earn that Lewis degree? I rest my case.
Parra couldn't spell college - must less attend one. With all the money he makes being a captain and a drug dealer, you would think he would spring for a full set of teeth!
Struggle to get your degree??? Who the fuck are you??? Congrats to all who have a degree from wherever you went.....and no I didnt go to Lewis or Calumet....but I do have a degree!!!
1631 3rd watch still sucks.
I agree people who get degrees from Lewis or other loser colleges are nieve.
Degrees don't necessarily make a better copper. I'll buy that, but right now we don't have any way of measuring an officers performance. There never was a good evaluation system. All you have on this job is someones word that 'I make a lot of felony arrests'. Until we have a real accountability system on this job the promotion system will continue to be the total joke that it is. You don't like college requirements (even though I believe it has kept a number of gang bangers off the job, they're to lazy to go to Lewis, Calumet) that's fine, but we don't have anything to say who has been the real police and who is full of B.S.. And the overwhelming majority of those promoted are full of bull.
I have to take issue with the poster who is bashing a degree from Lewis or Calumet College. I am currently enrolled in a masters program at one of the aforementioned colleges. I agree its no Harvard degree but it still takes alot of effort to study, do papers and attend class while working, going to court, and raising a family. I understand that the degree is useless to the CPD but when I retire smaller departments will be impressed by my dedication to the job, my family, and my education.
True.....most bosses are full of shit. But if they do get the degree at least they are following the requirements. If its accredited, you shouldn't criticize. I have met morons on this job that have graduated from U of C and other well known colleges. Doesn't matter from where just have it.....
as Ed Wodnicki once said "too much college, not enough high school"
I'd have to agree with my dear friend, Ed "The Woz" Wodnicki. While I earned my baccalaureate degree in Wisconsin before joining the CPD, some of the very best homicide dicks and other police officers I've ever encountered have nothing more than a high school diploma.
I regret getting my Bachelor's from Calumet. A lot of dumb fuck coppers that expected to get great grades with minimal effort.
Anybody have a suggestion for a reputable school that has a good master's program??
Please, anything but Xavier, Lewis, Calumet, etc.
I wonder why there are so few applicants?
To the posters who have bashed the degree programs at Calumet, etc. I don\'t blame you for being critical, as a little lively discourse is what this site is all about, but I would like to make a few points here.
In the world of higher education, there is a phenomenon known as credentialing, whereby whole programs are created to ensure that those enrolled get impressive credentials in ANY discipline, just so it looks good on a resume, and it justifies appointment to, say, superintendent of police.
One of the first programs set up this way was the MPA program at IIT. While IIT is a top-shelf school, the MPA program was originally developed by cops, for cops, and taught by cops, just so that the students could justify promotions to lofty positions in city government. The MPA degree pales in comparison to a Computer Science or Computer Engineering Degree from IIT, but it is an IIT degree nonetheless.
I attended U of I for my undergrad studies in Business, and I am involved in the grad program at Calumet, and I am working just as hard to obtain the grad degree as I did for my undergrad, and I\'m proud of it. All of the instructors have a minimum of a PhD. (or a J.D.), and it isn\'t just cops teaching cops. Calumet is certainly not Harvard, but it is a small, working-class college that affords us the opportunity better ourselves.
Anyone who enrolls in a college program and is able to balance work, court, and family obligations is deserving of praise, and not criticism.
HAPPY NEW YEAR to my brothers and sisters in blue!
I think that our "macho" Phill Kline also went to Lewis and I think that he is a 6 month marine to boot, what a man...
Did you check out Moderator's quote on the main page for the past two weeks? Down at the bottom of the right hand column? Look like Moderator is a fan of Wodnicki too. That makes him a vet with 20 years or so.
The copper in 5 that beat up her ex was a 3 year vet that had her partner drive to the ex's house then punched out the new girlfriend while her partner was in the getaway squad. The ex or girlfriend allegedly had a order of protection against the copper but then the best part was when the female copper wanted the girlfriend locked up, the copper was locked up transported to the district for processing and processed accordingly including being stripped of her powers. Typical of a seasoned 3 year vet. What a mope.
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This is funny!
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If you are looking for a good program, check out IIT-Kent College of Law's Public Admin program. Also, Northwestern U has a new masters program in Public Admin. Both reputable and not the mickey mouse degree's from the other places.
I too earned a Degree from Jerry Lewis University. Don't feel any more intelligent than the day I got out of High School. Clemente H. S. Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
to 12:51 you retard you can't even spell (nieve????)go back to your hole and your g.e.d. retard!
Most grad degrees are struggles...even if it is just working and then going to school for three hours a week...going to court....taking care of kids and oa family....degrees are often more a sign of dedication as opposed to intelligence...lot of retards got degrees and are still morons...don't bash that "easy" degree unless you got one...it is a personal achievement for most on our job because it means nothing to CPD and it is also a good example to my kids...so quit bashing it and go back to sleep jackass
Did someone say all 115lbs of Jiminy Curry would be kicking my bitch ass? Will we be following the Curry rules, where I'm handcuffed on my belly with two normal sized males holding me down, while Jiminy kicks me in the head? His boots are bigger than him, I don't know how he gets them off the ground. By the way Jiminy, I like the "fake old-timer" revolver look. The PPO's are impressed.
Anonymous said...
The copper in 5 that beat up her ex was a 3 year vet that had her partner drive to the ex's house then punched out the new girlfriend while her partner was in the getaway squad. The ex or
F/1? F/2? F/3?
GUN CONTROL DOES REDUCE CRIME!!!
Chicago outlawed pistols in the 1970's, thank god. We only have 500 murders by pistols in 2005, see it does work. If the city outlawed them in the 1960s we would only have 499 murders, see it really works. If all those murdered people had legal handguns we would only have 150 murders...Talk about LINK cards gone wild...No I say more gun control, seize those guns...reduce the population and my taxes...
Best place to go for school generally is... UIC. I have attended almost all of the Chicago area schools at one point or another, and can boil the question down to one thing:
Cost and quality.
A lot of the private schools in Chicago are good, great or even excellent (like, as in, "the best"... U of C). However, they still cost a lot, and they don't all reflect Chicago the way that UIC does. Add to this that UIC is increasingly recognized in numerous academic fields, and I think it should be the first school anyone in Chicago should look at.
As long as the guy is in sustody first, Jiminy will have the boots goin'.
THIS AIN'T NO RUMOR, O'GRADY IS GAY.
I MET MY WIFW AT LEWIS, LUCKIEST DAY OF MY LIFE
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