The Fix Begins Again
More than a few years ago, the Department got rid of the Oral Boards for promotional exams. We aren't sure if there was a lawsuit involved, but essentially it was said that the Oral portion of promotional exams was unfair to some segments of the Department and was unfairly graded to show favoritism to certain connected persons.
Everyone has heard the stories about someone being #2 on the list after the machine graded portion of the exam and then dropping down hundreds of places following an appearance in front of the Board. Or that certain people knew the "catch phrases" that would get them higher placement, like "notify the Watch Commander" or "order a large pepperoni pizza." There must have been something to it as the City got away from the Boards for many years.
Oral Boards have made a reappearance for Lieutenant exams and Captain spots. Now we read that the "Latent Print Examiner" test coming up soon will be 75% test grade and 25% Oral Board. What possible point is there in conducting an Oral Board on a Latent Print Examiner? Seriously, we'd like to know. There's only like 25 spots being made available and the Department wants to make sure the right 25 people make it? What other explanation could there be?
Everyone has heard the stories about someone being #2 on the list after the machine graded portion of the exam and then dropping down hundreds of places following an appearance in front of the Board. Or that certain people knew the "catch phrases" that would get them higher placement, like "notify the Watch Commander" or "order a large pepperoni pizza." There must have been something to it as the City got away from the Boards for many years.
Oral Boards have made a reappearance for Lieutenant exams and Captain spots. Now we read that the "Latent Print Examiner" test coming up soon will be 75% test grade and 25% Oral Board. What possible point is there in conducting an Oral Board on a Latent Print Examiner? Seriously, we'd like to know. There's only like 25 spots being made available and the Department wants to make sure the right 25 people make it? What other explanation could there be?
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
44 Comments:
1st and loving it!!!!
an oral board for latent print examiner? I mean, does one have to speak to the fingerprint, or be able to give a speech re: the history of fingerprint technicalities in American law enforcement? What a joke, and an insult to those applying for the position....
This all part of they plane to keep a brutha down
023 third watch captin once said "I was a hard charger back in the day, I once wrote a report to my commander with stats showing that crime goes up during the night hours." ATTACK!
They did the same thing for the major accident test last year. I took the first half of the test just for the shits and giggles and ended up doing real good, then they sent me a letter in the mail telling me that the second half was a oral. What a joke
Could they want to make sure that the people promoted to those positions could complete a proper sentence in somewhat corret english so they could testify in court?
I think its to testify in court.
Wait, that makes too much sense for the CPD.
must be another reason.
I miss Seiser! Is he still out there?
Stop! Right now! Stop! Wait a minute. You saps. You f*cking five year wonders. It's not oral board, It's oral broad!. And I could use one, or two, or three right now! Geez, what a bunch of p*ckerheads! Got any names other than the Area Two Gun Team?
Happy Mothers Day to all the lady cops!
I can't wait for the Sopranos MOTHERS DAY SPECIAL TONIGHT. Bing ba bing ba ba boom.
1:18 names,u want names? i got names. do i got names. i got some names. yes, i do. i got names. i got names that would surprise you. i got names that would turn your head around and think twice. i got names. i got names.
Okay name names!!! And it better not be any 023 shemales. Been there, done that!
The oral portion of the Sergeant's Exam given between 1985-88 consisted of four questions.
They were the same first four questions of the short written answer exam part of the test. Where else but Chicago would there be an oral exam where everyone had the questions in advance?
You were not supposed to bring up your education and experience.
They picked a few new fifth questions, one of them was, "What do you need to make an H.B.T. log?"
The correct answer was a pen and paper.
An Oral Board to see if a person can testify in court as trained technical witness, that would make too much sense.
Oral Test ? Did someone say Oral ?
I could use a little oral right now.Any takers?
LIFT THE RESIDENCY RULE!!!
Why, I like my house and my neighborhood. Besides, they told me when I joined up that I would have to live here.
I was just down at 35th and useless and was told by a reliable source that there is going to be a third part of the test, and this part will be added to all future promotional exams.
The third part will be an anal exam, so the department can meet the requirements of affirmitive action. Now it wont matter if you are black, white, red, brown or yellow, all members will be fudge-packers- and thus eligible for promotion as a minority.
I forgot to mention the hardest part.....NO REACHAROUNDS ALLOWED
the....machine....LIVES!!!!!
Any type of oral board should be fought by the unions these are used by the city to get there favorites in and to discriminate against persons that dont ax questions or use the word huh repeatedly. lawsuits should be filed for any test with a oral board
"NOTIFY THE WATCH COMMANDER"
is the key phrase............
Hey post 12:43 you r a stupid fuck,
never mind I'll tell your momma that, when I corn hole her 2nite, you fuckinn pussy............
Latent prints??
i thought i signed up for the latent prince exam and was hoping there'd be oral..i love oral..
"knit one pearl two"
"23rd dist boys !"
"yoo hoo"
This jobs all on the legit Kid!
"blacksanction" at 3:08 PM
Be it "performance ratings", "oral boards" or so-called "merit" promotions, your last sentence says it all.
Contact me via eMail at:
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While I can guarantee you that I will respect your confidentiality, I may be of assistance if you care to discuss your situation.
Isn't Huberman the latent Prince?
I had to take an Oral when Kraft hired me
Speaking of KOOL-AID, elsewhere on this blog, someone asked for the definition of "drank (drink) the Kool-Aid", a widely-used metaphor which is also used in both the CPD and NYPD.
The expression originated in 1978 when the Rev. Jim Jones, a cult leader, ordered about a thousand of his disciples to drink cyanide-laced Kool-Aid at Jonestown, Guyana. They blindly complied, resulting in an en masse suicide.
In its context here and in the NYPD, it generally refers to actual and aspiring police brass who blindly compromise their integrity and principles for financial and career advancement by following an irrational management indoctrination.
(i.e., "Commander John Doe drank the Kool-Aid a long time ago--he actually expects us to believe that this job is on the legit.")
"Kool-Aid drinkers" are generally arrogant, shameless and incompetent political hacks and spineless sycophants ("suckholes").
For further clarification, GOOGLE "drank the Kool-Aid".
Its funny, but for the major accident test the first nine people that they promoted happened to be 3 black, 3 white and 3 hispanics. What are the chances that the first nine people happened to be racially balanced on the list.
Actually evidence uncovered later suggested many of the cult memebers were forced at gunpoint to ingest cyanide laced Kool-Aid. This was to some extent a mass murder.
By contrast the idiot Heavens Gate cult in California all voluntarily followed their leader by drinking poison in preparation for hitching a ride on the comet. Who beleives white people can't rise to the occasion and do some bizarre stuff when aske to do so by their learders!
10:21 PM
Insufficient data. Even then, statistically insignificant.
In EXAMSCAM, psychometricans calculated that there was less than one chance in 13,800,000,000 that the "process" was NOT rigged. Repeat: 13.8 TRILLION.
The term KOOL-AID was resurrected by the military regarding officers who bought off on the 'Bush plan to invade and occupy Iraq with 100,000 soldiers' even though the chairman of the joint chiefs (Shinseki) testified that a couple hundred thousand would be needed. Subsequently Rumsfeld had officers fired who did not get on board.
Northside:
You were a legend with maybe a thousand felony arrests and a gifted IQ.
You did have one serious fault. YOU REFUSED TO DRINK THE KOOL AID.
Thanks for your kind words. I have no "Kool-Aid" regrets. I loved the job...until I learned the joys of retirement.
My heart goes out to the young men and women who must put up with all the management corruption and lack of support.
Best wishes!
Actually, Jim Jones forced FLAVOR-AID® down their gullets, but it goes to show you the power of Brand Recognition that poor our KOOL-AID® Man took the fall for the People's Temple Sunglassed Satan second-rate soft drink mix selection. Was Jim Jones ever under contract with the C.I.A.? Where's Mike Hoare when we need him??
(Good to have Northside back in the "house" - OH YEAHhhh!)
Northside, question time. And I'm being serious...
What do you do now with your time as a retiree? I always like to hear good retirement stories, like Santa Fe NM or something entirely different (Silicon Valley or a farm in Indiana). Unfortunately, more retirees than not find nothing to do and aren't adequately prepared to live like children without parents again (i.e., no obligations, but nobody to feed you and pick out your clothes in the morning).
So, without getting too specific, care to share what you do, and if you feel its enough to keep you busy, healthy and vibrant?
Seriously, this might help someone.
NorthSide said...
Thanks for your kind words. I have no "Kool-Aid" regrets. I loved the job...until I learned the joys of retirement.
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Must be nice, wish I could get that....
10:54 PM
Daily cunnilingus with assorted nubile hotties--ONLY KIDDIN'!
Actually, I have a wide variety of interests. Reading, music, world travel, fine dining, playing with my dog "Boomer", regular exercise, spontaneous events like ball games, concerts, cruising around in my convertible, interesting conversations with folks, people-watching, the Internet (particularly GOOGLE research and this site), writing, "smelling the roses", just enjoying life without answering to anyone except God.
I'm happily divorced with no dependents. I passionately treasure my freedom and privacy. Essentially, I keep entertained and have a very positive attitude about life in general. While the job has to make one cynical, I just try to focus on the myriad joys that life has to offer.
I am apolitical and now realize that I can't change the world. Stay healthy, kick back and enjoy living.
And right now, I'm going to finish a glass of wine and get a sound night's sleep.
Good night!
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Hey Northside I'm sure your wise enough to ignore the comments from my fellow southsiders. They don't mean any harm and are usually insecure in their manhood. They also don't have the balls to put their name on anything.
Where does it say that the lone jealous stroke is a "southsider"?
5/14/2006 10:31:10 PM
Actually Eric Shinseki was the Chief of Staff of the Army. When you make an argument and have such a simple fact wrong, then the rest of your points are disregarded.
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