The Wrong Lesson Learned
- City of Chicago officials are preparing to settle a police brutality case that has generated no stories in the mainstream media -- but which watchers in the blogosphere say threatened to expose widespread patterns of abuse in the Chicago Police Department.
- As Kalven reported on his blog, the numbers show that of the 10,150 complaints of excessive force, illegal arrest, illegal searches, racial and sexual abuse filed against Chicago officers between 2002 and 2004, only 18 times were officers suspended for seven days or more.
- That means an officer accused of abuse has a 99.8 percent chance of getting off without any "meaningful discipline," Futterman said. The figure exposes as a lie the department's attempts to portray the abuse under former Police Cmdr. Jon Burge as ancient history and practices as having been reformed, Futterman said.
Maybe, just maybe, the Slum-Times should question why over 10,000 complaints were made that had a high probability of being made with malicious intent and were of such a dubious nature that the Office of Professional Standards could not sustain 99.8% of the allegations.
Notice that the lawyers and the media completely disregard and make no mention of the fact that the Sworn Affidavit law has reduced the number of frivolous allegations made by citizens over nonsense to record lows. The high numbers from 2002 through 2004 had everything to do with the culmination of the entire populace of the CHA being trained to whine and complain about every little perceived slight inflicted on them by officers enforcing the law.
Notice that the lawyers and the media completely disregard and make no mention of the fact that the Sworn Affidavit law has reduced the number of frivolous allegations made by citizens over nonsense to record lows. The high numbers from 2002 through 2004 had everything to do with the culmination of the entire populace of the CHA being trained to whine and complain about every little perceived slight inflicted on them by officers enforcing the law.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
60 Comments:
Every scumbag criminal in town knows that the city has traditionally cut a check to anyone claiming ANY type of brutality over the years. It's cheaper for the city to fork over a few G's and let the scumbag sign a waiver then to litigate these phoney allegations.
I know you Slum Times people read this blog, so get your facts straight. Quit trying to "create" news, rather than report it "fair and square" the way you like to claim you do.
Now you know why circulation is in the toilet on your shit-stained rag of a newspaper. Between the biased reporting and Mary Mitchell's commentary, your readership has gone from the average family man to refugees who long for the old glory days of The Defender and The Last Call.
Wake up, Slum Times, you're getting desperate!!!
Wow. You should actually look at some of Jamie Kalven's blog. This guy is even left of Jane Fonda! Didn't know people could be that blind!
God Bless R.A for doing his job. The drunk Sgt could have killed someone.
A nice job done by Officers Sledge and Lewis re: the arrest of the two home invaders. See if you show up to the job on time good things can happen.
you said it. way too many b.s. cr's filed against the police as a "revenge tactic". some blocks or certain gangs are always beefn' the minute somebody goes to jail. do what i do, if they file a fake bs cr# on you or the police in general. Don't run with your tail between your legs. turn the heat up that much more. if they are going to beef on you for lockn up homeboy slign and think if they file a phoney cr# that you'll back off the block and area. well, they got another thing coming.
how about all those 3rd party cr#'s. somebody beefn on the police that wasn't even there. i love it when ops takes the cr#. unbelievable
IT WAS NOT PRETTY WORKING IN HOUSING, ANYWHERE IN THE CITY. YOU ARE FIGHTN HARD CRIMINALS, SOMETIMES WE NEED TO BE A BIT FUCKING TOUGHER. THEY WANT US TO BE A BUNCH OF FUCKING DO NOTHINGS... THESE GANGBANGERS KNOW THAT IF THE BEEFS KEEP COMING ON THE P.O.'S, THE WORK WILL STOP! JUST LOOK AT S.O.S.
Off topic but there will be a dicks class coming in February. It's official.
What is the address for the blogsite so we too can look?
Every man and woman on the CPD should write a letter demanding an apology for such a poorly written and investigated article. I read the article and the first thing I said to myself was. Notice how its says 2002 to 2004.
I've said it before on this blog and I will say it again. I would never vote for Blago but, he did more for the Police than any other gov has in the last 20 years. Signing the sworn affidavant law into affect showed courage. CR#s are down over 60% since the law went into effect. Where was that Scum Times???? Your article is as one sided as it gets!!!
I do know that there are funds set aside to settle cases as opposed to going to trial.
However, this only happens when it is determined by the ACC that the officers' personnel jacket is way to heavy.
I've got a pretty good response to Jamie "Cop Hater" Kalven right over here at my pad.
Feel free to read/comment/whatever.
Off topic but...
Can you predict the winner of the aldermanic races?
Give it a try:
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Remember OPS' phone number is posted above every phone in CC Jail. Every scumbag that has ever been locked up, especially the 3x losers try every tactic there is to get out of trouble..
Ity's hard to imagine how someone sleeping in his car might kill someone.
Anonymous said...
God Bless R.A for doing his job. The drunk Sgt could have killed someone.
12/19/2006 12:06:57 AM
I don't think I'd go that far in praise of RA, but I understand why he did what he did. The sgt fell asleep on the side of the road and a skyway maintenance man found him. There are cameras all over the skyway, and inside the traffic cars. RA gets on the scene and here's a witness to what's going on, and the whole thing is being recorded.
Could RA have saved him? Possibly, but he'd have taken a chance a beef would have buried him. Would I have taken the chance? Probably, but I can't fault RA completely for what happened.
The real fault lies with the sgt who drove shitfaced and put himself and others at risk. It's gonna cost him big time in lawyers fees and suspension time, but he shouldn't lose his job. Maybe it will be a wakeup call for him and hopefully, others on this job that drive shitfaced.
Let's be honest here, too many of us coppers drive drunk and think our stars will save us. The sgt is lucky, he didn't kill anyone. So he'll take a loss financially, but still keep his job. Ask Casper, DeLucia, et al if they could do it all over agan, if they'd take a cab or ask for a ride home.
Those figures are made up. I work in the Bridgeport community and I can tell you firsthand that there are questionable officers among the ranks. Nobody observes these guys under a microscope, but if the dept starts to check beefs-LOOK OUT! We all know of the "loose cannons" on each of the watches.
I am looking out for myself and myself ALONE. Not even my partner is worth my job. If somebody wants to teach "street justice" to a banger, then they better be ready to get a CR# and face $$ punishment. I will not lie on your behalf either. "CYA" is the name of my game. You might call me a dog or snitch, but in the end, I will be around with a job. Where you be at? Unemployed.
Why dont the Suntimes look at all the medical claims by the Police Dept being denied as Injury on Duty, yet the City Workers can be off and working other jobs, Police Officers legit hurt while doing their job must fight the machine just to get his bill paid, while his credit is ruined and yet these non working city boys get fat working two jobs on disability, I say vote for anyone besides Daley, start writing your alderman tickets, get the blue flu, imagine what would happen to manpower-those house cats would have to work the street, hey Suntimes look at operation closed market- its really closed car-these people just sit n read and then go to lunch-hell one Sgt didnt even bother showing up on a crime scene, Go to Bourban Street on a Thursday and watch all the SOS carsm stream in for hours, and the working Police Officer can't get his doctor bills paid-no wonder morale is so down on this Department, I hope Daley gets carjacked while his body guards are out to lunch
AMFN message number 066447:
Sgt's class starts on 26 December 2006, Tuesday, at the academy.
Everybody can expect to get their Sgt's test results pretty soon, I'm sure. Now that "they" squeezed in Devine's kid. Just like "they" squeezed in all those awesome, test taking 011th District clout babies, including Devine's kid, in the first Dick's class.
Ya, Ya, Ya...they got it legit (wink, wink).
The funniest thing is that "they" and "these" clowns think they're fooling everyone.
Ya.
Sure.
Merry Christmas Officers! Especially to those of "us" that get it "LEGIT."
anonymous said...
God Bless R.A for doing his job. The drunk Sgt could have killed someone.
12/19/2006 12:06:57 AM
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TROLL ALERT! TROLL ALERT!
FUCK YOU, DIPSTICK!!!!
to 12:06
You are an a&&hole. The Sgt was pulled over to the side of the road, sleeping in his car with the keys in his lap. The officer lied and put it on the IDOT driver to say that he saw the keys in the ignition. The IDOT driver will be showing up in court for the Sgt to say that he DIDN'T see the keys in the ignition and that the J.O. officer fabricated that to make his case. Watch and see what happens to the P.O.
I been around this dept for years, sorry to tell you a few of these allegations may be true.
Sgt's list came out today. Anybody have the names??
Where is the FOP on this?
check out new sgt list. same old clout promotions.
Everyone is well aware of the millions and millions of people that are victims of Chicago police every year, but the paper fails to mention the millions and millions of animals and insects that fall victim to abuse of Chicago police department. I once observed a foot guy beating a baby seal at the zoo with his club for no apparent reason. Not to mention the thousands of fly’s that are swatted when entering the CHA.
I just wish the FOP would sue the obvious bullshit artists who still sign off... with this 20 CR's in five years and you can't be the working police, we need something to push back with.
R.A.-please stop posting about yourself!
When Pete Devine was a PPO he was a good future copper. He listened to what was said kept his mouth shut.
He was a good beat guy, and earned his spot in Tac.
3:25
Been to 009 ever? Sure they may be true...Look at ret. po Lukensmeyer. He was the MOST brutal cop to ever walk the planet. Took pride in that fact.
-009 Days
10:16-Since you are missing some facts, if you've ever dealt with "P.O." Austin, you would know that the reason he did it had nothing to do with cameras, witnesses, beefs, or any other legit issue. It was the simple fact that RA seeks out police officers to hurt. He will tell you himself that he does not stop gangbangers, does not search cars, does not put himself in a situation where bravery is required. He arrests police partly so that when his supervisors call him on his cowardice he can accuse them of harrassment for retaliation. If you knew this prick you would know he has no honor, only selfish motivations for his bizzare actions. When was the last time he made a real arrest? He worked in 011 for about ten minutes, and was too much of a coward to stop or arrest ANYONE. He has real insecurity issues, and until he seeks proffesional help we're stuck with a cop who refuses to back us up- and will only respond if there's a chance to fuck one of us over. As for the legality, you obviously have never been to a SS hearing. The keys were not in the ignition, therefore-no probable cause to arrest for DUI. End of story. There is no beef for not arresting a non-criminal.
Been to 009 ever? Sure they may be true...Look at ret. po Lukensmeyer. He was the MOST brutal cop to ever walk the planet. Took pride in that fact.
-009 Days
12/19/2006 06:27:38 PM
Ever meet Mr Rex Hayes???
11 had Mike Skorodynski...no 1 bag suburbanite was safe around him.
Lukensmeyer in 009 huh. most brutal cop ever huh. yada yad yada. you writing this comment are probably a do nothing (i think i'm the real police - do nothing 009th district copper). does locking up every 1 bagger bust out count as the most brutal cop ever? does ruffn' up a homeless guy or a drug addict that can stand straight justify you saying the most brutal cop ever? how about you know who having a stolen squad in his garage? how about you know who having a bunch of dope in his house when the po po arrives.
austin. you people or austin on this site trying to make himself look better. your all a bunch of smucks!!1 Austin your a pussy. not only did you go Wayyyyyyyyyyyyy out of your way to fuck a fellow cpd cop but a sgt but you fabbed all the details. i hope YOU get burned. plus for all those that say "good, that sgt could have killed somebody". hey dummies, he realized he was a little impaired to drive so he did the right thing and pulled over safely to the side of the road, locked his doors, shut the engine off and tried to get some zzzz's. plus austin writes the po po's and po's families all the time beside alleged dui's. so stop sticking up for a dickhead that makes all of cpd look like assholes.
rex hayes. yeah okay. whatever. good cop that was a total hot head and never knew when to say when. he meant well but again, another cop that made all of us look bad in the publics eye. he was totally out of control. a good smart cop makes good decisions and knows when to say and do when..
The keys were not in the ignition, therefore-no probable cause to arrest for DUI. End of story. There is no beef for not arresting a non-criminal.
12/19/2006 07:29:28 PM
Obviously, you are not very familiar with the DUI statute. Acoording to the statute, a person only "needs to be in control of the vehicle." If they're "sleeping" in the back seat, with the keys in their pocket, they're still in control of the vehicle. The keys do not have to be anywhere near the ignition for the DUI charge to fit.
Ever met Officer Tony Francis? Ever met Officer Toxie Hall? Both of them, as well as Officer Lukensmeyer worked in 007 back in the '70's. Trust me, you wouldn't want to upset any of them.
Lay off RA.
The sergeant has my stripes he is a merit sergeant, and the event was recorded on video tape which was inventoried by the IAD. Were lucky the sgt didnt kill any one or hurt himself. He is a Kline guy lets hope he learns from the incident and gets the help he needs, the man has a disease, and needs treatment.
This is not private industry or a suburban police dept. were one would be forced to retire or be fired. This is a merit protege of Phil Cline who made a serious but not fatal mistake. Thank God RA did the right thing, doesnt poor Casper wish he had been DUI'd instead of spending his life in a 7x10 cell with a real criminal 24 hours a day.(remember Milwaukee Ave and the Berwyn incidents) Get Real boys, when will we learn, the goof lives in Beverly why was he on the Skyway if he was going home?
Where were all his friends when he left the Stadium club bombed at Sox Park?
RA had no choice. You bash RA when we should use this as an example of a merit idiot who in all likelyhodd will be taken care of by the treacherous Kline. Compare him to some regular no clout guy who didnt recieve two merit positions...
To Anonymous who posted this:
Anonymous said...
Remember OPS' phone number is posted above every phone in CC Jail. Every scumbag that has ever been locked up, especially the 3x losers try every tactic there is to get out of trouble..
12/19/2006 09:18:16 AM
The number is not nor will ever be posted above any phone at CC Jail. As a matter of fact every time someone complains of filing a “beef” the response is pretty much the same. And I quote “You probably deserved it, you want some medical attention? No? Now shut up, quit your bitchin and shut up!” A very close friend of mine runs the intake room over there. I have been there picking up a prisoner. Those Sheriff’s are good people and would NEVER allow some SH@#BAG to flie an OPS beef from there. Geez, we all know that the public defenders office hands the number right to them at the bond hearing or next court date. The defense attorney will call for them. And lets not even talk about the McArthur Justice (INJUSTICE) center. OPS and IAD have to take every complaint. But the complainant has to file it correctly(only thing Blago did right so far). Even if it’s filed correctly it can still be false. I blame the attorneys for settling all of those cases before. Now everyone files a compliant in hopes of getting a little “city” money in a settlement. If the city would have fought for us then it would have saved money now. The past practice has now come full circle to bite us in the ass. If someone would have just had he presence of mind and a little forethought we could have avoided this. But that was asking a little too much. Now we live in a litigious “state” where the liberals and “thug huggers” roam free in hopes of pulling a multi zero check from the city. It’s not us……it’s them. But that’s my opinion. What do I know……….
Hayes ain't got nuthin' over the "Beast" Lukensmeyer! I never worked in 009, but his stories are Citywide. Dude finally lost it and took a police car for his own off-duty use. Forced to retire...True badass! Hayes just pretended to hate everyone. Luke DID!
-011 copper
10:12
It's snitches like you that I don't want to ever work or be detailed to 009. You all are a sorry bunch of coppers to think the way you do. Rat on me and you'll pay snitch!
Whatever happened to looking out for your partner? You all in 009 are goofs!
To the annonymous Brother po in 009-10:12am-with the courage to stand alone against the majority. I applaud you. You will be chastised for doing what is right, but you will have your job. God has your side My Brother, as you watch the scandals on tv and see more officers placed behind bars, you will know you were right to do so.
I hope you report each and every offense you see that goes against CPD policy. Get the brutal cops off the street my Brother. It's about time that the streets were safe again. Make yourself a pillar in society. Become the salt of the earth which stands the test of time. Rise up! Stand strong my Brother. I stand behind you in this effort. Be careful my Brother. Don't trust nobody in 009. It's all about the benjamins!
that's one of the most glaring things wrong with this job. guys like lukensmyer and rex hayes have been run off. there is going to come a time when you need and i mean need guys like this not just want them. who are you going to call maria maher alberta raymond etc. etc. etc..
.... you obviously have never been to a SS hearing. The keys were not in the ignition, therefore-no probable cause to arrest for DUI. End of story. There is no beef for not arresting a non-criminal.
12/19/2006 07:29:28 PM
Been to plenty of SS hearings, but most importantly, I wasn't there at the time this went down. But as you KNOW, if he's in the car, (anywhere, even asleep in the back seat) and the keys are ANYWHERE within his reach, he's in 'control' of the vehicle and subject to a DUI arrest.
I wasn't there, I don't know all of the facts. I do know I'd have bent over backwards to have saved him or any copper. Why RA did what he did only the sgt, RA, and the skyway guy know for sure. Was it principle? Was it because the skyway guy was there? Was it because the sgt pissed him off? I don't know.
However, to say a "non-criminal" is a bit misleading. Driving drunk is criminal in itself. We've all done it, and maybe it's time we stopped. Too many coppers have killed someone driving shitfaced, and we of all people should know better.
Again, I'd have bent over backwards to have taken the sgt home, but also again, I wasn't there. Before we cast final judgement on RA, remember that the sgt is the one who decided to drive while shitfaced.
I work in 009 and there isn't any reason to draw attention to police misconduct. I work with the most professional officers on 2nd Watch and we are very close. Whoever started saying 009 is bad has never worked here. I love each and everyone in 009 and I back them up equally. There is NO brutality going on in 009. None.
What is going on with 016 and Harwood Heights. Stop the madness. Fuck those few jagoffs or bitches that work in HH & Chicago. They make ALL of us look bad. We're all brothers n sisters in blue.
10:12 poster
Who the fuck made you IAD King? You really think being a snitch is a good thing? I hope to God you aren't on my Watch? WTF? Now we in 009 have to wonder who this asshat is gonna snitch on? Do us a favor and leave the district. We don't need your crap. BTW, there aren't any "loose cannons" on 1st Watch.
-009 Midnights
There's a saying "Snitches end up in stitches"...To the dog ass saying we can call him a snitch...How bout we call you ambulance? Got it? Good.
You do not need keys in the ignition for cause to arrest for a DUI, you must be able to be in control of the vehicle. It's a wonder how you became the police, go back to the academy.
Hi! I'm LUKENSMEYER.
12:39
NO brutal cops in 009? Do the initials B.B or G.C on tac ring a bell?
C'mon man, you got yo head in your ass!
IT'S REALLY SCARY WHAT THE CITY IS HIRING AS "THE POLICE'.I THINK DOWNTOWN HAS BOUGHT INTO THIS WEST COAST NONSENSE,THAT THUGS CAN BE REASONED WITH.WHERE ARE ALL THE BIG IRISH KIDS.ALL I SEE IS BOTH MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE 5'2''-MAYBE 5'6'' THEY LOOK LIKE A JOKE IN UNIFORM,BUT HEY THEY HAVE 2 YEARS OF COLLEGE,THEY MUST BE SMART.
You are right! There aren't any ass kickers in 009 like Luke anymore! The badguys in 007 know this. Hell we all know this! Any shithead can mouth off or swing on any cop in 009 now. 009 sucks now!
-007 copper
10:12
You claim that we in 009 all KNOW the "loose cannon" cops? Unless you have ever worked with Lukensmeyer, then you haven't a clue! You are probably a house mouse? Keep hiding from the street.
Nobody in 009 is like Luke. Nobody ever will be either. Go fuck yourself!
-009 oldtimer
12:39
Go hug a tree wussbag! There are heavy handed cops in 009! Especially on Afternoons. You must be CAPS office! Love? I don't even LIKE most of you asshats!!!
Open your ears...
009 2nd Watch
Why put a retired cops name on the site. Brutal or not that guy was the working police. Let him retire in peace. I can tell you for a fact that the public corruption unit of the fbi reads this blog everyday.
So if snitches get stitches then whoever is using names needs them.
By the way the Sgt lists is out some good guys, but that fucking detective from A/2 (C.P.) what a fucking joke. Maybe he can go arrest some more bullshit domestic batteries and get promoted again.
I would of been sympathetic until the Acevedo family brutality that left some poor mope paralyzed was found ubstantatiated by OPS but cost City Taxpayers 28 million.
BOY, U STUPID FUCKS TALKING ABOUT BEATING PEOPLE AND WHAT DISTRICT YOUR FROM ON A BLOG THAT EVERY ONE AND THEIR MOTHER CAN SEE, HAS GOT TO BE ONE OF THE MOST IDIOTIC THINGS I'VE SEEN ON THIS BLOG. NOW YOUR NEXT T.R.R. WILL DEFINITLY BE LOOKED AT, U DUMB M@#$%F@##$'S COPS REALLY ARE THIER OWN WORST ENEMIES.
009 is a joke! The real brawlers are in 007. We handle our buisness. 009 is full of college boys who are only good at drinking. Fuck 009!
Anonymous said...
10:12
It's snitches like you that I don't want to ever work or be detailed to 009. You all are a sorry bunch of coppers to think the way you do. Rat on me and you'll pay snitch!
Whatever happened to looking out for your partner? You all in 009 are goofs!
12/20/2006 08:54:21 AM
Trust me, this tool doesn't work in 009, if he did, he might just catch one in the back if we ever found out who.
Anonymous said...
You are right! There aren't any ass kickers in 009 like Luke anymore! The badguys in 007 know this. Hell we all know this! Any shithead can mouth off or swing on any cop in 009 now. 009 sucks now!
-007 copper
12/21/2006 12:46:07 PM
HA!!!!!!!!! Whatever rookie.
I work in 018. Yes, the women ratio is very large. Many coppers bid to 018 so they can be downtown and see beautiful women. You have to agree-we have the most gorgeous women in the disrict!
I wouldn't try to land one though, because they will surely destroy you in the end $$$!
Date only Southside women-Irish girls especially...
-018 copper 1st Watch
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