Ready Made Scandals
We are suffering from scandal fatigue.
Really. We're just kind of sick of it. Some are legit scandals, like the SOS one and the Abbate incident. Some are yet to be fully revealed like the Jefferson Tap incident. Some are absolute BS, like the 025th District court hearing.
Since the media is allegedly using this blog to dig up scandals, why not let them have it all? But instead of sticking it to the unconnected blue shirts on the front lines, why don't we start with the nepotism and politically incompetent who seem to rise through the ranks unimpeded by failure, shame or inability?
But don't do the media's job for them. No names. Just positions held at the time of the incident or positions promoted to. We'll leave out the sexual hi-jinks at the moment - just pure incompetence to start with or tremendously boneheaded moves.
Shit flows downhill. Start at the top.
Really. We're just kind of sick of it. Some are legit scandals, like the SOS one and the Abbate incident. Some are yet to be fully revealed like the Jefferson Tap incident. Some are absolute BS, like the 025th District court hearing.
Since the media is allegedly using this blog to dig up scandals, why not let them have it all? But instead of sticking it to the unconnected blue shirts on the front lines, why don't we start with the nepotism and politically incompetent who seem to rise through the ranks unimpeded by failure, shame or inability?
But don't do the media's job for them. No names. Just positions held at the time of the incident or positions promoted to. We'll leave out the sexual hi-jinks at the moment - just pure incompetence to start with or tremendously boneheaded moves.
Shit flows downhill. Start at the top.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
117 Comments:
How about the Asst Deputy Superintendent busted down from gold star twice for stalking his ex wife and then running a civilian’s plates and stalking her on and off? Convicted or pled to some quasi complaint, was fired and is now coming back as a lieutenant of police. How many private sector employees would have gotten three chances to be rehired after stalking and harassing?
Commander of 014 and Dep Chief of Area 5 sign off on a quota system for officers to be graded, despite the fact that quotas are a violation of the contract and magnifies the potential for abuses and civil rights violations. The Area Dep Chief in question is currently presiding over the biggest fall in the clearance rate since the Department began.
Promotion via failure!
reverend race baiter has at least 4 squad cars and an entire tactical team for his church services every Sunday. Why doesn’t the media care? Waste of manpower. After all, a church financed by questionable business profits (cocaine) really ought to be front page news.
What hiring standards were lowered to let someone with a DUI on the job within the 5 years that a DUI is supposed to keep you off the job?
A Captain in 011 who took 90 days for violation of the Mann Act while he was a Lt. in Vice. The man should be in the MCC but yet through political connections with the HDO he is made a Captain of police.
You get what you deserve pineapple head!
Tubby demotes the captain and the affirmitive action, 12 yoj commander is immune. He was getting his new take home car and could not be there.
After 29 yoj, the job is the worse it ever was. All because of the fools with gold stars.
Does the Mayors Chief of Staff count? I mean really? He was the police and still considers himself one. Has anything been said about the domestic violence issues he's been having lately?
You guys need help ...
Look, the media does care and will cover these stories. But they need information. The media does not operate in your world and probably doesn't know who most of these people are. If you want results, be specific. Would you go to trial with vague information? Probably not, so don't expect the media to go to print or air without specifics.
Personally, as an editor, I'd chase these stories down. Not because I get my jollies off on screwing with the police, but because these are things the public needs to know.
And there is the revelation, "The public needs to know."
Once you explain to the media how or why the public needs to know, it all starts to make sense for them.
Here is a quick formula:
1) Timely - did the even happen recently?
2) Impact - who is impacted by the issue?
3) Prominence - is it someone people know, or a nobody?
4) Proximity - Is it local? Does it affect where you or where you live?
5) Conflict - is there a conflicting situation, are people in disagreement?
6) Unusual - is this event/issue abnormal?
7) Current - can the story transition into more stories that are timely?
I truly wish the police would understand how to work with media instead of being hostile to them. The media isn't soothsayers, they can't read minds of predict the future. They don't sit around in meetings trying to figure out how to screw people over -- maybe the NY Times ... but most don't.
I guarantee if you call a reporter and say: "Listen, I think you might be interested in knowing this ... there is a dirty cop in my unit and the people need to know we don't support him. He has been stalking his ex-girlfriend and is abusing his authority ... I feel bad for saying this, but he needs to go. It's the right thing to do. I'll give you the information you need to know, but I don't want this to be a story about how crappy our unit is."
The reporter will take care of you -- at least as an editor, I'd make sure they would.
SCC said, "No names. Just positions held at the time of the incident or positions promoted to. ...just pure incompetence to start with or tremendously boneheaded moves."
O.K., how about the Deputy Superintendent of the Bureau of Patrol at the time of the December incident and at present (but not naming names) who was so proud to tell Sergeants during their January in-service training that he moved that Sergeant from the December incident to the 5th District (he wished he could send him to Indianapolis). He was proud that that is ALL that he did? If what they did was so bad, and he knew about it several months ago, why isn't he on the hot seat for his inaction? We are all going to get fucked because he didn't do a damn thing except transfer the Sergeant far from home. Who is the Sergeants clout? Or is the clout connected to one of the officers involved? Do an expose on THAT, Pam Zeckman!!
SCC,
Rumor has it, (retired) Lt. J.B. and Sgt. J.E. are indicted. It's hitting the newspaper any day. Maybe as early as 03/29/2007.
As far as the 25th District incident goes. The judge ordered Abbate escorted out the back door NOT the police. The media truck ticketed was parked in a handicapped spot. RIP Billy Grant God Speed
A seargent in IAD leaves after being accused of falsifying reports that got a PO fired. He's a first cousin of a First Deputy. He's hired by the TSA to run Midway Airport. So much for airport security.
011 District merit segeant at the time (a current Area 1 merit sergeant) observed by OCD in personal car making a narcotics exchange. IAD moves to fire, but 1st Deputy Starks (the same person who made him Sgt, and who is ready to make him merit Lt) comes to the rescue and makes it all go away.
A certain Captain of Police in 5 on dayS. sends PPO with FTO with two double homicide suspects to RCH for a sick tummy (both in cell together and cooked up fake sickness). Suspects get to RCH with P.O.'s and when the PPO goes to the head, the two suspects jump the middle aged FTO and attempt to disarm him. (Had they been successful they would have killed the FTO, and had to shoot their way out of RCH.) The only way their attack did'nt work is because two CFD paramedics and RCH staff security jumped into the battle. the PPO wanders in after the fact totally unaware of what happened. This Captain of Police violated so many G.O.'s it's pitiful. Yet this Capt. never served a day. Not to mention this Capt's management style (or lack thereof) has driven out so many Sgt's and Lt's from the 2nd watch that they have to forcibly detail in Sgt's and Lt's to fill in, and that Capt. is totally oblivious and the Dept. does nothing to stop the madness. How truly sad. The (C)aptain (W)as rewarded for being a criminal who testified against criminals, How nice.
i agree with 11:35.
didn't phil just bust a captain down to lt for the "misallocation of police resources", or however he put it? this was regarding the fiasco in 025 court procedings. i believe his words were "i'd rather have the cars out protecting the streets."
A4 gun lt not only escapes punishment, but is promoted to commander.
cline stated the jefferson tap incident was "off-duty", so the lt had nothing to do with it.
but, the fact is, someone signed off on letting one of the stripped members with less than 3 years on the job (in violation of the g.o.'s) work civilian dress. the stripped member is the son of an exempt member.
not saying that having less than 3 years on had anything to do with the incident. it's more just a comment on how the bosses look the other way with regards to general orders and the exempt's kids. the lt knowingly violated general orders, and he gets promoted. that's the chicago way!
Hey news hot off the press, Phat Phil ain't retiring. As long as King Richie is happy, Phil will keep his job. That explains why he is so happy to sell out his fellow coppers.
When is the next firefighters test? At least the media gives them some respect and show them as the heroes they are...
To the jerk with DUI comment. Stop attacking people. I have never gotten a DUI and I can say I do write them but just because they made a mistake in their past and were just ARRESTED, not convicted of DUI that should not disqualify someone from being the police. The guy or gal sitting next to you in the squad car could have gotten arrsted for DUI when he was a kid, does that make him less of a cop or a unqualified to do his job? I think not just as long as they learn from their mistake and do continue to do the illegal act...
SCC, this thread is a bad idea. Stop drudging up old stuff. Let things be. Everyone has made mistakes and errors in thier life, including you. Would you like to keep reliving yours b/c some bonehead ran out of ideas to post about?
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SCC, this thread is a bad idea. Stop drudging up old stuff. Let things be. Everyone has made mistakes and errors in thier life, including you. Would you like to keep reliving yours b/c some bonehead ran out of ideas to post about?
what skeleton you got in your closet boss?
Any day now I expect to see a link for Secondcityexempt.com
Now that would be interesting.
Grand/Central has two Commanders and a Deputy Chief working out of that building! Where were they during the incident that left the Captain on the hook? Probably under a desk afraid to make a decision!
what's this regarding the mayor's chief of staff R. H. and domestic problem's . INQUIRYING MINDS WANT TO KNOW
Lt. in 025 says he has had enough of the BS and tosses his star to the CO and says he quits. 35th steet gets wind and suddenly the Lt. reconsiders. However, now he is detailed to 017 and a Lt. from 017 is detailed to his spot in 025. Both guys have bid spots so they are paid time and a half for their entire tour everyday.
What does this Lt. know that the Department doesn't want coming out?
Anyone?
warning........despite the "Editors" assertion that we can all work together...just call the media anytime.......beware ...because with a possible few exceptions...the media is yellow journalism at its worst.....they want a sensational story period....publics right to know my ass........more mind numbing photographs of dead kids on display, the bar beating played over and over,Ana Nicole Smith story run until you want to puke.. the media is not your friend....they just want in..........you guys need to man up and quit giving them more fuel.......they are in line with the Inquirer and all the other rags that they distain......
Newely promoted Commander of 008 was at the Jefferson tap.
Will he be stripped? NO
Will the sergeant be the sacrafacial lamb? Most likley
huberman look at unit 543 on the computer seniority search yes he is still showing on police payroll why?? Is he uncover police? look at his pay rate $$$$$$$$
whos daughter is working/running JTTF? hint "hello little tommy"!
Yes, shit does flow downhill, but remember, scum floats to the top.
3/28/2007 11:35:00 PM
Not just 4 watsed cars look at all the ilgally parked cars on the street ordered not to ticket! which bosses go to political parties and contribute heavy "TAX" for their jobs?
you took the words right out of our mouths jedi master.
It is time to go after those who protect the "thug officers". They are called the exempt brass down at HQ. Who let Abbate stay employed with DUIs, thefts and other crap? his exempt clout. Who picks the guys and gals for those special elite units? The exempts. Who covered up the Jefferson Tap fiasco for over 4 months? THE EXEMPTS. and I would bet the Superintendent as well. So I agree with the Supe, go after those who protect the "thug officers".
Supt Fatasshat demotes the Captain for blocking the police lot with beat cars. Supt "wants those cars on the street". Coincidentally, this press conference/kangaroo court is the same day that Supt pulls the 35/Michigan detail, using beat cars, from guarding his police memorial.
"Does the Mayors Chief of Staff count? . . .Has anything been said about the domestic violence issues he's been having lately?"
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Huh??? He's having boyfriend problems? Do tell!
No statute of limitations on this incident. Shots fired on Madison Ave. Young gang banger ends up at the hospital dead one bullet in the back of the head one in the thigh. Shots fired call police are there Sgts talk to bar where call came from talk to witnesses no shooter to be found but the people on the street say it is off duty copper. 9mm and 380 brass recovered but no shooter. Well about 0430-0500 A/5 Deputy Chief appears at work on a Saturday night tells W/C in 015 stop all paper work forget word on street about shooter being off duty p.o. and get to A/5 now and see him and A/4 Deputy Chief. So about 1030 the next morning detectives sent to wake up off duty p.o.and bring him and his empty 9mm into A/5 where he admits he was in a shooting on Madison night before said he saw the police and Sgts but he was having a drink at the bar and never told them he was the shooter. His main witness is well known westside drug dealer Vice Lord who by the way is known to carry a 380 and a CPD star given to him by 011 copper. So p.o. gets away with the same actions that put a cop named Becker in jail. WHY?? His uncle was a very fat A/4 Deputy Chief who has since passed away. A/5 deputy Chief went on to remain an exempt who was caught DUI many times in the suburbs and he just turned 63 and retired this month. Chief of Dets went on to become really big boss in CPD ,who if you know his history is famous for covering shit up for those with the right connections. Rumor has it he will soon retire. City paid out big money to the UNARMED gang bangers family in civil suit because nobody could explain where the 380 bullet came from cause copper supposedly was only shooter or why he shot an unarmed fleeing juvenile. You might ask yourself why the Corp Counsel defended this off duty p.o.? Covered up by the CPD Exempt Ranks and paid for by the taxpayers of this fine city. And the murderer remains at large still on the job. SCC I think this is a ready made scandal not to mention indicative of what can be covered up by Exempts for "their" people.
"Dwelling in the past is for losers", Mike Ditka
the mayor's chief of staff still carries a deputy superindentent's badge. just ask him he'll show you.
Once again you who have chosen to work in a known shyt bowl have the audacity to complaint about the smell. Why? This is Chicago, this is how it is here, this is how it going to be here? Just like you knew about the residency requirement, you knew about all of the political in house promotions
and crappy supervisers. There has not been one know incident of any person being drafted or forced into service for the CPD. NOT ONE!
Quit! resign! take an early retirement, but stop all of your self serving bitching about how bad you got it, how unfair it is,join the Navy, Airforce, Army or the Marines....better still most of you would fair better in the Salvation Army with you constant crying and woe wih me attitudes. Do the world a favor Go some F'ing place else
how about a discussin on the medias coverage of bill grants death (fireman).just hours after he was killed, the media is interviewing his 7 year old daughter! she clearly had no idea what had happened tio her father, yet some media piece of shit is sticking a camera in her face. the media has hit a new low, f****** media whore, channel 5 should be ashamed.
When is the next firefighters test? At least the media gives them some respect and show them as the heroes they are...
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I read this statement in a book once, an old timer said "never take this (police) job looking for respect"
IT APPEARS OUR FEARLESS LEADER IS NOTHING BUT A POLITICAL HACK AND COWARD! HE WOULD SELL HIS SOUL TO THE MAYOR TO KEEP HIS JOB. DOES HE EVER STAND UP FOR HIMSELF OR US? GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT IS THE THEME OF THIS DEPARTMENT AND UNDER "FATTYS" LEADERSHIP WE ALL HAVE TO WORRY. THINGS HAVE GOTTEN WORSE. SOME DRUNKEN LOSER WHO SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN HIRED GOES BERSERK AND BEATS A DEFENSELESS BARTENDER SO NOW LET'S SCREW EVERYONE. THIS KIND OF LEADERSHIP IS UNACCEPTABLE. HIS APPEARANCE IS AN EMBARRASSMENT AND HE HAS NO BACKBONE! RESIGN YOU FAT PRICK. WE HATE YOUR STINKING GUTS!!!!!!!
Great Thread! The mayor despises the police department, especially when a scandal breaks. The irony is that most of these scandals are a result of the politcal hack system of him and his cronies; Guys who should have been fired a long time ago or never on this job in the first place except for their clout and incompetent bosses that would never be in a command position, aside from their having a phone call (and are rarly held accountable).
3/29/2007 12:18:00 AM
Dear Editor,
Want to help the police? Just write a short article about, "Chicago Police Blog Vents Dissatisfaction" as an interesting public piece. The list the first 10-12 comments in this blog, not as fact but just as blog content. That would cause such a shit storm that you would have enough juicy press for a year(AT LEAST!). Citizens would be outraged to know that these people are make well over $100k a year even after being caught in criminal acts. The kicker is you would be doing all of the working men and omen of CPD a huge favor.
Lt. M.R. of 002 is another rising idiot. A merit SGT and now a merit LT. He's claim to fame is,that his father was partners with the Superintendent back in the day. Scared of his own shadow. Unable to make a decision by himself. A do nothing in SOS. Never made and arrest, but jumped on a lot of paper. Keep your eye on him. There is a scandal brewing. Remember your read it here.
This is a decent article about the copper's side of the Jefferson Tap & Grille fight.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/318438,CST-NWS-abbate29.article
If the article is how it really happened, these businessmen talk shit like they're tough guys and then they get a well deserved ass-kicking and raise this big fuss? They brought the whole thing on themselves.
how about a certain female capt. in 006. completely incompetent and a hater to boot. ex cpd boss and current stroger chief of staff's blowjob broad. this job is for real not.
how about female ads former comm. of 21 and more importantly old man stroger's neice. dumb as a post and a mush mouth to boot.
Notice all these tact guys have those stupid goatees? They look like dirtbags.
Roy in 009 has a lot of skeletons in his closet. Hear he is going to be getting his walking papers soon too.
Could wifey have something to do with his removal?
-009 days
ARE YOU ALL KIDDING ME? THE MEDIA OR CITIZENS DO NOT CARE IF IT'S A BLUE SHIRT, WHITE SHIRT, EXCEMPT. TO THEM WE'RE ALL CPD (CROOKED POLICE DEPARTMENT).
WE ARE JUST ADDING FUEL TO THE FIRE. THE BIGGER THE FISH THE BIGGER THE STORY. DO YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT IF AN EXCEMPT MEMBER GETS BUSTED, THE DEPARTMENT'S IMAGE IS GOING TO BE CLEARED. HELL NO!!! IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN WORSE. THE MEDIA IS JUST SALIVATING OVER ALL THIS NON-SENSE. THESE ARE NOT THE BATHROOM STALLS WHERE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN READ IT ARE P.O'S.
SCC....IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE MEN IN BLUE, YOU SHOULD START A NEW BLOG, AND KEEP BETWEEN THE MEN IN BLUE AND NOT ANY OUTSIDERS. GOD BLESS THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPT.
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011 District merit segeant at the time (a current Area 1 merit sergeant) observed by OCD in personal car making a narcotics exchange. IAD moves to fire, but 1st Deputy Starks (the same person who made him Sgt, and who is ready to make him merit Lt) comes to the rescue and makes it all go away.
3/29/2007 01:09:00 AM
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one of the little rascals????
How about a tac Lt. in 008 who not only is an alcoholic, but spends his summers on company time golfing. Where is Walter Jacobson on this guy. If the media can catch streets and san guys on breaks why cant they catch this easy fish?
The commander of 022 lets his two secretaries make their own hours and work 4 hours a day. This should be easy pickens.
The Abbate incident, the Jefferson Bar incident ...the source of all this mess is not coming from the officers in patrol, it's coming from the officers in the "specialized" units. I think that it sucks for the guys in patrol to pay for the sins of guys in the units. Not to say everyone in a unit should be subject to it either, but they have the luxury of remaining more anonymous than the patrolmen. And when it all comes down, and these goofball leaders of ours decide to create another idiodic general order, it's patrol that has to deal with it. Put the egos aside and remember unless you or your family is in a life/death situation don't get into stupid sh*t if you're off duty. If you gonna get into with someone off duty for bullsh*t, be sober and be prepared to make an arrest.
How about the Asst Deputy Superintendent busted down from gold star twice for stalking his ex wife and then running a civilian’s plates and stalking her on and off? Convicted or pled to some quasi complaint, was fired and is now coming back as a lieutenant of police. How many private sector employees would have gotten three chances to be rehired after stalking and harassing?
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Sad to say that this domestic abuser/stalker is already back. Former ADS G, not Lt G. I think he went to 23 another skirt chasing district. Low profile of course... we wouldn't want the media to find out that certain people have special privileges would we???
Commander of 014 and Dep Chief of Area 5 sign off on a quota system for officers to be graded, despite the fact that quotas are a violation of the contract and magnifies the potential for abuses and civil rights violations. The Area Dep Chief in question is currently presiding over the biggest fall in the clearance rate since the Department began.
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GRIEVANCE!!!
reverend race baiter has at least 4 squad cars and an entire tactical team for his church services every Sunday. Why doesn’t the media care? Waste of manpower. After all, a church financed by questionable business profits (cocaine) really ought to be front page news.
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Almost as bad as the dignitary car in 009 that spends 8 hours each tour driving past certain "political" houses in the district. Why the special protection? They are citizens of chicago just like me.
Streets and San Commissioner, Aldermans' offices, Aldermans' homes, Fire Commissioner's home, the mayor's brother's home etc.
You guys need help ...
Look, the media does care and will cover these stories. But they need information. The media does not operate in your world and probably doesn't know who most of these people are. If you want results, be specific. Would you go to trial with vague information? Probably not, so don't expect the media to go to print or air without specifics.
Personally, as an editor, I'd chase these stories down. Not because I get my jollies off on screwing with the police, but because these are things the public needs to know.
And there is the revelation, "The public needs to know."
Once you explain to the media how or why the public needs to know, it all starts to make sense for them.
Here is a quick formula:
1) Timely - did the even happen recently?
2) Impact - who is impacted by the issue?
3) Prominence - is it someone people know, or a nobody?
4) Proximity - Is it local? Does it affect where you or where you live?
5) Conflict - is there a conflicting situation, are people in disagreement?
6) Unusual - is this event/issue abnormal?
7) Current - can the story transition into more stories that are timely?
I truly wish the police would understand how to work with media instead of being hostile to them. The media isn't soothsayers, they can't read minds of predict the future. They don't sit around in meetings trying to figure out how to screw people over -- maybe the NY Times ... but most don't.
I guarantee if you call a reporter and say: "Listen, I think you might be interested in knowing this ... there is a dirty cop in my unit and the people need to know we don't support him. He has been stalking his ex-girlfriend and is abusing his authority ... I feel bad for saying this, but he needs to go. It's the right thing to do. I'll give you the information you need to know, but I don't want this to be a story about how crappy our unit is."
The reporter will take care of you -- at least as an editor, I'd make sure they would.
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Um you forgot to give us your contact info.
6) Unusual - is this event/issue abnormal?
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Cover ups for those that are politically connected is not abnormal within this Department.
IAD/OPS are told when to hold cases in hopes that they go away. Victims get tired of waiting and being dragged through the mud while IAD/OPS try to brush the case under the rug. Victims get victimized all over again internally. Who wants to go through that?
This was the same situation with the area gun team. One of the officers involved had a daddy who was an exempt. But Supt. Cline could just go on TV and say Ooops I should have handled it differently, but in the mean time, the lowly PO's are getting dragged throught he mud for the same reason as Supt Cline... They should have handled it differently.
Where is his accountability? Where is the accuntability for the investigators that knew about this?
There isn't any!!!!! Never has been, never will be.
A seargent in IAD leaves after being accused of falsifying reports that got a PO fired. He's a first cousin of a First Deputy. He's hired by the TSA to run Midway Airport. So much for airport security.
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I had OPS falsify a report in my case. I even wrote the Supt. for stating it had been altered and asked that it be looked into. No such thing. I got reprimanded and I don't have any clout :(
Ms. Marin,
Since you log into our speakeasy, be prepared to hear a few things. First, here's a Newsflash - the Democratic Party runs this department. Most of our bosses and their kids are promoted to high levels of command, or easily plopped into coveted spots on the department and all are poltically connected with Daley's camp. Dig a little deeper and you'll discover the majority of the dirty cops in the headlines of late are political assignations. How about it, Carol? Or is REAL investigative reporting beyond your skill level?
How about the female commander who had an illegitamate kid with a married police officer. They were both POs at the time. Both promoted several times since. She is now a commander. He stayed with the wife and has several kids all around the same age as the illegitamate one. Don't know why, but the wife is still with him. I guess moral standards don't matter on this job.
Here is something Mr or Ms Editor, this isn't a juicy scandal but it affects a very large population of this city so it may as well be. Do you want police officers on patrol that work 80-90 hours a week? Well they are. Because they work 2-3 jobs just to fulfill their residency requirement!
How about doing a story on the thousands upon thousands (at least)of city workers that don't even want to live here but are forced to do so due to a Home Rule law that was created years ago. How about doing a story on how many Chicago cops have other full time jobs just to be able to survive here. Not to drive a Mercedes and have a lake house, JUST TO BE ABLE TO PAY THEIR BILLS!!!!!
Makes them a little tired when they are on the job policing when they just worked 12 hours earlier that day don't you think? It sickens me that an Officer was murdered in front of his home COMING HOME FROM HIS SIDE JOB. Hopefully his wife will sue the city! He shouldn't even have to work a side job to be able to live here. We do not make enough to be required to live here and to support our families. I would make a bet with you that if you did a piece on that issue alone how we want NO RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS you would have half the city in your pocket. Not to mention our families intermingle with the same criminals we arrest-since we are forced to live in the same town. Would you like to live like that? Forced? Property taxes are supposedly going up 46% I don't think our salaries are going up 46% anytime soon. Do you?
For those interested...Look for a domestic incident or two in the 4400 block on N. Racine (even mid-teen side) Look in the last 18 months.
This is cry baby stuff, I think most of what goes on here is good, but all this rumour talk is BS.
How can you little babies whine and cry about every little thing? Grow up and shut up until this crap blows over, then start your crying again. What a bunch of pimps.
To 3/29/2007 12:15:00 P.M.
Get your facts straight! Unless someone had a sex change, there are no female captains in 006. Are you talking about someone who worked there previously?
.....If the article is how it really happened, these businessmen talk shit like they're tough guys and then they get a well deserved ass-kicking and raise this big fuss? They brought the whole thing on themselves.
3/29/2007 12:10:00 PM
Oh thats just great the for real story of what happen! Now these Officers can go home and explain to their families why they are unemployed bound and maybe heading to jail,supervision, probation. They can all turn and smile and tell their families, they brought it on themselves. Sometime you have to walk away from BS, especially if you aren't in any physical or threatening danger. But of course our heros at large decided to kick the shyt out ot these YUPPIES and the camera was rolling. Now that they made their decision. How much is it going to cost them to get out of this mess? Can they get out of this mess? I can't wait until the benefit tickets go on sale. The press will really have a field day with that one
For those interested...Look for a domestic incident or two in the 4400 block on N. Racine (even mid-teen side) Look in the last 18 months.
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I'll assume it's a police officer. Buried.
Well there's a case in federal court now re: how OPS handles domestic violence cases within the Department.
City of Chicago, CPD, Terry Hillard & Lydia Conlisk (OPS investigator)etc are named defendants.
You got a college education, so why would you take a job that will not provide for your life styles or needs. Maybe you should not have majored in basket weaving 101 and 102. How many college graduates actually have a degree that is relevant to law or police procedures? I have met ex teachers, graphic artists, insurance salemen, cpas, lab techs. computer programmers, soft ware designers, real estate saleperson, the whole gambit that is now on this job, because they could NOT make it in their chosen profession. It was great, most of them had degree corresponding to the job that they once had. Come on people, how many of you are going to send your kids to college at these prices so that they can end up working bt 1122 and having to get a part time job, just to have the basic essential things that are needed. This department believes that anybody or anything with a degree, regardless is police officer material. You go to IBM with a degree in botany, they'll hire you to work in the landscape department, you come to Chicago with your botany degree you'll be on bt 1611. You got relatives or clout, you'll be on the gun team.
The reporter will take care of you -- at least as an editor, I'd make sure they would.
3/29/2007 12:18:00 AM
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You have got to be kidding me?
And all you rat coppers that are sooo bitter about someone tht has something that you do not. That is called life.
I have 27 years on this job and can say that it is all good. I am just a patrolman and am happy with my life. I am not a bitter back stabbing rat.
Yes, over the years I have been jealous of others that have gotten assignments/details/promotions that I felt I jsutly deserved as well.
However, I know that if it is meant to be then it will be and I cannot change the political system that has been in place in this city long before I was ever born.
But to mention bosses and coworkers and what they have or have not done or gotten just because they are "connected," is JUST PLAIN WRONG.
SCC, you need to remove this thread.
After the link via the Zorn column, this site has/will become a monster.
You've got the media asking us(coppers) to TRUST them and throw them bones on scandals.
Well, the truth is that many that post on this site are nothing but bitter people who cannot grow up and deal with the big bad world. They are bitter because: they didn't get promotted and someone else did = therefore that someone else must have been promotted only by clout.
In reality, life is what it is and if anyone of them were a boss, and had a relative that needed help, they wouldn't hesitate.
How about this, study hard, and EARN your promotion!
Stop being petty, bitter, whinning little snitches and take accountablity for yourself and do something for yourself.
Learn that in this world there are people that WILL ALWAYS get something more than you have = deal with it! And stop feeding the media,(who by the way, are NOT your friends) stories.
Remember, try to help each other out, no one is going to come to your aid faster than a fellow PO.
Stay safe and May God keep all of our fallen officers in the palm of his hand.
This blog is not a source for the media. We all talk about events that have already happened.
One of the founding principles of this country is that freedom of the press can scrutinize the government. If you forgot, we are the police and we are the government.
All this shit has happened before and will happen again. Who can remember the shit that happened 2 weeks ago? You have to think don't you.Kiss your wife hug your kids, there all that matters.
Figure this braintwister out: 2 f-1s recruits take photos of an exam with their cell phones, 1 M-2 is caught with a copy of the exam. Who gets fired. the M-1, a phone call from 1stD denies action against the other two.
How many units in the department are run by civilian administrators? Murphy - Forensic Services and Fogarty - Evidence and Recovered Property are two that I know of. I know that Murphy was a great cop, and if we're taking care of one our own, fine. I have no idea who Fogarty is. Why not give other bosses a chance so more of us can rise up? Is this a trend that civilians will end up running the department?
How about a tac Lt. in 008 who not only is an alcoholic, but spends his summers on company time golfing. Where is Walter Jacobson on this guy.
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Drinking WITH him and driving?
(not so subtle Walter DUI joke but couldn't resist)
And can we start looking into those that have been on light/convalescent duty for years????
I don't understand how they can't do their job in a beat car, but can play softball, join a bowling league, do home improvement repairs & work side jobs. Things that make you go hmmmmm.
What exactly does the medical section do besides inconvenience those that are legitimately sick or injured???
i'm sorry. i was referring to the incompetent hater female capt. in 003.
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Like always, one week the news is negative with the cops, the next week they are targeting the fire department.
is that LT MR of 002 the new midnight Lt???????????????? please let me know
Whew...the heats off us. Now it's the fire department and the building inspectors. Abatte...who?
Doesn't the mayor's chief of staff live near 4400 N. Racine?
Here is a great news story for the media. Cops whose kids are gangbangers and drug dealers. I have stopped a lot of shitheads with a lot dope on them and the first thing they say is "My momma is..." or "My daddy is..." Of course I call the P.O. "useless parent" and tell them and then they turn around and tell me "fuck you" for stopping their baby. Wrong answer momma. You can pick him up in about 6 hours at the station or you can bond him out tomorrow at 26th and Cal.
The media does not get their information from the blog. Cops call their desks all the time trying to rat someone out.
While all of these scandals are busting out in headlines & video, "Da Mare" is said to be "Out of country for two weeks".
Hiding in the mountains of Pakistan, or what?
6:15 PM (the blueshirt impostor)
You are sooooooooooooooo full of shit, "boss"!
Stop bogarting that doobie and stick to the clouted Kool-Aid!
Hey 2:26 you stupid Fuck. The Jefferson tap incident- Area 4 Gun team, Patrol. Abbatte(sp) 020th Dist., Patrol. Learn your basic Department organization before you spew shit!
speaking of Huberman
How the helll did he go from Patrolman to Exempt??
And now that he's on a leave of absence can he still carry a pistol?
I dont think so. He was carrying it when he was running the OEMC
And I remember the O/D shooting on Madison
How he got away with that shit is unbelivevable
The ame thing Becker did and got locked up
If they want to clean things up they would
They dont
AAAAND what about cheating on the promotional tests?
THey gave secret passwords out and answers and everything else
I have a copy of the quota letter, from 14.
Scan it and send it here. We'll post it
Huberman is still the police (whatever) detailed to the mayor, he will collect a pension as a cpd sworn member. can you say big bucks. Tommy Byrne did the same when he worked for the county. Those with juice do what ever the hell they please, who is going to stop them. You Mister?
"How about this, study hard, and EARN your promotion!" - 6:15 PM
LMAO. Don't insult our intellegence with your drivel.
Well the Caption in 11 his brother, Who beat the living shit out of his wife was in call back for a weeee bit now right back as if nothing ever happen. by the way this is maybe his 4th domestic. Can you say WHY? However the poor little no juice PO has a disagreement with the neighbor, and No balls Cline wants to hammer him. Whats going to happen when Baby Cline and Baby Devine do something wrong do you think the states attorneys office will go after them. you think!
3-29-2007 7:29am. that don't make it right boss. You are the guy this dept will piss on your head and tell you its raining out, you say "its all good" tell your wife when she is getting raped by a savage, maybe she should lay back and enjoy. You mister want this dept to stick it in your (A hole )go right ahead. I my friend will speak out for your sorry chicken shit ass.
The Mayor will be back in town on Tuesday. It is rumored that he is highly pissed-off about all the CPD bullshit going on right now..and that he's looking at Cline's replacement.
When asked about it today, all Cline could say was "I serve at the pleasure of the Mayor"
Can't wait until Tuesday..the suspense is KILLING me!
"Huberman is still the police (whatever) detailed to the mayor, he will collect a pension as a cpd sworn member. can you say big bucks. Tommy Byrne did the same when he worked for the county. Those with juice do what ever the hell they please, who is going to stop them. You Mister? "
Pension rules as they are. He's on leave. Anything under 20 years and it's a small percentage and whatever you paid into it. Plus you have to be 50 yoa to collect. Even if he was to become the supe (I'd sheet my drawers) it's still the best 3 of your last ten as an exempt. I don't think he is even 40 yet. But, he'll make out like a bandit somehow. Hey Richie, will you ever figure it out why you are hated by the rank and file....
05:41, contrary to what you say, and I hate to admit it, I make more than many of my college friends. They are accountants, lawyers and so on. I have more time off, and at least a little insurance compared to nothing for them. They worry about downsizing and such. So quit bitching, leave then. We ruined this job. Complaining, voting for a crappy fraternal organization, and so on.
All I can say is everyone who published so called info for the media on this blog is a big fat RAT.
WE ARE OUR OWN WORST ENEMIES.
How about the one story, Trying to estrange a married sgt.! This dwarf stalked my better half at work and at their side job and began harassing them to leave me. This Sgt. had to threaten this psycho with getting an order of protection just to stop.
Anonymous said...
While all of these scandals are busting out in headlines & video, "Da Mare" is said to be "Out of country for two weeks".
Hiding in the mountains of Pakistan, or what?
3/29/2007 09:33:00 PM
osama bin daley is hiding out well with da boys at da camp!
Read the posts about the banned guy in 007. He definitely will be the next scandal. There's areason why NOBODY in 007 wants to work with him. 5 min. talking to him...you'll know.
-007 Afternoons
The Abbate incident ...the source of all this mess is not coming from the officers in patrol, it's coming from the officers in the "specialized" units.
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020 is a specialized unit?
No, 020 is nothing special...but tact is
To 10:29 ...the girl beater was on tact. Tact is a "unit". The gun team is also a "unit". They aren't in uniform, drive unmarked cars, and they do whatever the fuck they want. Get it now, dumbass? Oh, and I know about department organization...they have none.
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No statute of limitations on this incident. Shots fired on Madison Ave. Young gang banger ends up at the hospital dead one bullet in the back of the head one in the thigh. Shots fired call police are there Sgts talk to bar where call came from talk to witnesses no shooter to be found but the people on the street say it is off duty copper. 9mm and 380 brass recovered but no shooter. Well about 0430-0500 A/5 Deputy Chief appears at work on a Saturday night tells W/C in 015 stop all paper work forget word on street about shooter being off duty p.o. and get to A/5 now and see him and A/4 Deputy Chief. So about 1030 the next morning detectives sent to wake up off duty p.o.and bring him and his empty 9mm into A/5 where he admits he was in a shooting on Madison night before said he saw the police and Sgts but he was having a drink at the bar and never told them he was the shooter. His main witness is well known westside drug dealer Vice Lord who by the way is known to carry a 380 and a CPD star given to him by 011 copper. So p.o. gets away with the same actions that put a cop named Becker in jail. WHY?? His uncle was a very fat A/4 Deputy Chief who has since passed away. A/5 deputy Chief went on to remain an exempt who was caught DUI many times in the suburbs and he just turned 63 and retired this month. Chief of Dets went on to become really big boss in CPD ,who if you know his history is famous for covering shit up for those with the right connections. Rumor has it he will soon retire. City paid out big money to the UNARMED gang bangers family in civil suit because nobody could explain where the 380 bullet came from cause copper supposedly was only shooter or why he shot an unarmed fleeing juvenile. You might ask yourself why the Corp Counsel defended this off duty p.o.? Covered up by the CPD Exempt Ranks and paid for by the taxpayers of this fine city. And the murderer remains at large still on the job. SCC I think this is a ready made scandal not to mention indicative of what can be covered up by Exempts for "their" people.
3/29/2007 10:25:00 AM
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that cop stills works in 011
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Pink Mafia said...
For those interested...Look for a domestic incident or two in the 4400 block on N. Racine (even mid-teen side) Look in the last 18 months.
3/29/2007 04:24:00 PM
Are you sure it isn't Magnolia, I heard there are some intresting domestics, but the fear of doing the paper on it are the reasons for the incients not being on file.
You guys are falling for the media crap. ABATTE WAS NOT A TACT GUY, HE WORKED ON THE THIRD WATCH ON 2032. For all you dumb fuck still saying Abatte was at tact guy, 2032 is a beat car. NOT A TACT GUY.
GET YOUR SHIT STRAIGHT.
"the media is yellow journalism at its worst....."- 3/29/2007 08:57:00AM
Mystery Man?! Well stated hombre. NOW you're speaking truth to power! I knew you had it in you...and it's about time.
Stay safe.
the Jefferson tap incident news story in the suntimes is the departments way to spin the story for the connected gun team. Tubby Cline was already trying to hide what happen talking to the lawyers. Low and behold the dept was doing a good job had reassigned them kept it out of the media, then the sorry ass goof beat up the lady bar maid. All hell broke loose and Tubby is still trying to cover the gun team, if you notice they have not been charged, don't feel sorry for them if that was you" you be gone"
Area 4 gun team where are the charges??? A bunch of connected guys get a walk again, a sgt hooked up with maher, a ex-commanders son etc... Not gonna happen to them.
Hey media look into who gets disciplined on this dept and who gets a play. CITY CLOUT ALL OVER AGAIN!
3/29/2007 10:25:00 AM
MOST OF YOUR COMMAND STAFF AND EXEMPT ARE DRUNKS, BUT THEY HAVE CLOUT TALK ABOUT A TOTAL EMBARRESSMENT! WHAT ABOUT THE GUY WHO RETIRED A FEW YEARS AGO COMMNADER M.H. WHAT A POS! ALL THE CLOUT CAN I GET PROMOTED WHO DO I PAY??
Gun Team Charges: Possible charges will come from the State's Attorney's office, not Supt Cline. Anyone with an ounce of street sense would know that.
The whiners, backstabers and other lowlifes on here that can't wait for fellow officers to be in trouble are sickening.
Go back to the third grade wimps.
Newely promoted Commander of 008 was at the Jefferson tap.
Will he be stripped? NO
Will the sergeant be the sacrafacial lamb? Most likley
3/29/2007 08:58:00 AM
Not true. You Lie. He was out of town on furlo. NIce try scumbag. This is the crap that fuels the media you piece of shit.
For those interested...Look for a domestic incident or two in the 4400 block on N. Racine (even mid-teen side) Look in the last 18 months.
3/29/2007 04:24:00 PM
oh cut the bullshit and just tell us what happened.
I think the FBI should investigate the Jefferson Tap Incident, due to past colusion between the CPD and Stats Attorneys Office, and numerous ex-CPD people now working for the States Attorney. The only impartial way to do it.
To 10:29 ...the girl beater was on tact. Tact is a "unit". The gun team is also a "unit". They aren't in uniform, drive unmarked cars, and they do whatever the fuck they want. Get it now, dumbass? Oh, and I know about department organization...they have none.
3/30/2007 11:58:00 AM
AREA 4 GUN TEAM=UNIT 214
020 TACT TEAM=UNIT 020
TACT is not a unit dummy. You must be the same asshole who thinks the second watch in 025 is staffed by two year wonders.
PS Abbate worked the watch fuck face.
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