The Politics of Guns
- A deadly shooting on a CTA bus is now the inspiration for a new proposed federal law to keep guns out of the wrong hands. Congressman Bobby Rush plans to name it after the heroic teenager who died in the crime.
- The bill, called “Blair’s Bill,” would require licensing of all individuals who own guns, and create a national registry tracking gun sales and ownership. Congressman Bobby Rush, who has also been personally affected by gun violence, plans to introduce it in Washington later this week.
Bobby Rush was personally affected by gun violence in that he perpetuated it and advocated it as a member of the black panthers. You reap what you sow Bobby, and your son and nephew were heavily involved in the gang and narcotics culture, so death by violence or being convicted of visiting violent death on others is part of the harvest you helped foster.
And just how is Bobby going to register some almost 250 million guns in existence when the government has admitted that they can't even register and monitor 12 million illegal aliens? Is Bobby advocating home invasions to force people to register?
And does he somehow think that the assholes who shot Blair Holt are going to somehow register all of their guns?
Grandstanding again by someone who is part of the problem - and part of the original problem to boot.
And just how is Bobby going to register some almost 250 million guns in existence when the government has admitted that they can't even register and monitor 12 million illegal aliens? Is Bobby advocating home invasions to force people to register?
And does he somehow think that the assholes who shot Blair Holt are going to somehow register all of their guns?
Grandstanding again by someone who is part of the problem - and part of the original problem to boot.
Labels: gun issues, silly people
posted by SCC at 7:03 AM
52 Comments:
bbby rush who during his panther gang banging days yelled out "kill the pigs", then when his friends hampton and clark were killed in a gun battle he called out the same mantra again and again! rush is another part of a real simple problem putting thugs in office everywhere! yea bobby illegal guns illegal immigrants how are you going to stop them? how about illegal drugs that are found everywhere? Fuck You bobby and all the other gang bangers just like you! take your laws and shove them up you big ass! jagoff!
lets not forget your other comrade luis guiterrez the one who had billy clinton free all the faln terrorists that KILEED many people with bombs and guns bobby another congress gang banger!
Whats the poop on some k9 cops getting dumped?
this would once again just be a waste of the taxpayers money by our politicians. they know that it is contrary to the Second Amendmant of the U.S. Constitution, therefore invalid. It is easier for them though to waste the taxpayers money than to go to the heart of the matter and deal with the true facts. 99% of all American citizens who own firearms are law-abiding, this is documented via national DOJ statistics. Have Bobby"Black Panther Rush" pay for this, along with the rest of his crowd, with their money, not the taxpayers money, and I guarantee he won't contribute a dime. This guy has been, is now, and always will be about nothing but bullshit rhetoric and passing the buck for his own inadequecies. Just what we need, more gun Laws, like this stuff isn't already covered by the hundreds of Federal, State, and Local Laws already. This guy is just a typical smoke and mirrors socialist, who just can't stand the fact that this is still a free country, and that he and his ilk can't control everything they can get their greedy little hands on, or into. By the way, I bet you own and carry a gun, don't you RUSH?
I feel for this Officer Holt for losing his son.
That being said, please sit down and shut up.
You are being used by the reverands and politicians as a pawn in their quest to completely ban all guns. They do not care about you. They will use you then leave you after others have left you. Like Cindy Sheehan.
You want to honor your son's memory? Try addressing the real problem, the lack of fathers in the inner-city. Not guns.
I hope Bobby sues the shit out of this rat slander site.
"Sorry I ruined your Black Panther Party."
More socialism and from a criminal to boot.Who the hell does he think he is. I got news for you Bobby Rush, chicago is not like the rest of the country, people have Constitutional Rights.I'll give you chicago and soon all of illinois, where people don't really have Rights because they vote for social benefits instead and are happy as long as the gov. cheese keeps rolling in and taxes are a non-issue to thoes who don't pay them,but you keep your filthy hands off the rest of America. I want to retire someday and go live in a free state far away from you and your socialist friends.Let's not make this a race issue either, I have heard from many a white officer "Only the police should have guns", really, well have you ever heard anyone say "Only the press should have free speech" or "Only democrats should have freedom of assembly,religion,freedom to pursue happiness,etc.". It's the mindset thats wrong,not the color of the person.
The ignorant gun haters love felons but hate gun rights for the law abiding.
There are TWO US Supreme Court rulings that exempt felons from gun registration because that would force them to incriminate themselves in violation of their 5th Amendment rights.
Registration laws only waste tax dollars.
If Bobby Rush really wants to stop crime in his district he needs to get a law passed requiring the female members of his district get their tubes tied and stop making more little bastard criminals.
How bout some laws to combat the gangs, the people that are pulling the f*k'n tiggers.Someone thats living in rural Illinois whoes a half hour from response from the local sheriff should have to suffer because of a lack of firearm
because b*tf*k Shitcago cant control its idiot gangbangers/illegals!!!!
On the books thier is enough laws restricting the sale/flow of guns. If those laws were just enforced.
FFL's are now impossible to get these days.
Will gun shops be required to get DNA samples now in the state of Illinois?
Will his constituents still be able to get special permits for when they are burning out Korean grocers?
Sorry this incident happend, but again it's not the gun manf. or gun dealers. It's the criminal! People kill people and that's the bottom line. There are too many of the wrong people with guns. Not the law abiding citizen. Too many repeat felony offenders, a broken justice system, and no parental involvement with juvinile delinquents. How about that BOBBY RUSH!!! When you were giving you press speech, you sounded like you had mouth of shit and couldn't talk about traceable firearms. Didn't know how to respond except blam the manufactures and gun dealers. YOUR A WALKING TERD IN A SUIT!!!
As a general rule, laws named after victims are political bullshit intended to impress voters instead of solve problems.
Fuck that bill. It will never pass. If it does, thats really fucked up. Reminds me of an era about 50 + ago when a man named Adolph Hilter had "a list" of everybody who owned a gun(s) and came a knockn' one day demanding the gun(s) or imprisonment/execution.
Once again, punish the good. It's not the good commiting violent crime, arm robbing people, spraying bullets in the air or riding up in a car and senslessly killing one after another. It's the gang banging, dope dealing savages doing it. Do the math. Do you think they will register a gun, do you think they will obtain an FOID card, do you think they will purchase a gun legitly. I think not. They'll obtain their weapons over the black market, from another state or gun show, off the box car or while burglarizing a home or car.
Seems like the people that do all the preaching and bitching about guns refuse to bring up the racial breakdown of who's using guns for wrong. Who's got the balls to show the statistics. Truth Hurts aye.. Bring the hammer down where it needs it. The old stats from several years back told that 62% of all violent crime in Cook County with the use of a gun was BLACK, 27% was HISPANIC and 11% was WHITE or OTHER.
OFF TOPIC: Looks like Chicago politics has even infested the White Sox. In the recent MLB draft Ozzie Guillen drafted, guess who? His son Oney Guillen.
A "MERIT" draft perhaps?
Bring our troops home! Have them patrol the streets since our police can't or won't do their job.
OFF TOPIC:
Does anyone know what the city homicide count is so far this year?
curiously shooting appears to be increasing.
As a kid in grade school I remember my police relatives talking about Rush. Wasnt he himself shot in the back runnin from the police in the 003rd District. maybe one of our happy retires can enlighten us. This occurred thity years ago.
Couldnt find nothing about it on the net.
He also claimed to be with Hampton.
I am sorry for the Holt family, I cant believe Ron would allign himself with this race hater.
SPEAKING OF GUNS.... ANYONE HEAR IF WE ARE GETTING BETTER GUNS AND WHEN.... ANYTHING??
Not to say anything bad about the father, but why is he allowing himself to be used by anyone who has anything to say about a gun issue.
Not to say anything bad again, but what was his position about guns before his son was killed?
Next time you see two bustouts shooting it out,
keep on driving.
Forget the DOC crap, it's
time to set up fences around all of the
finer districts and let
the games begin.
Last one standing wins.
The prize, a date with
the syringe.
Sorry, it belong one post down.
Bobby Rush , What a piece of "SHIT"
He now advocates gun control , but did he in 1969 when he was a BLACK PANTHER . Hell no ! Rush and all of his followers were hell bent on killing cops or as he used to say "PIGS" If anyone can remember the shootout on 58th & Caluimet back in 69 Here is the way it was reported by the B.P.On November 13, 1969, Jake Winters stood face to face and toe to toe, his shotgun in his hand, with Pig Daley's murderous task force. He defined political power by blowing away Frank Rappaport and racist pig John Gilhooly and retired 8 other reactionary racist pigs before he was shot down.
The Black Panther newspaper reported the shootings this way:
Spurgeon (Jake) Winters, 19, member of the Illinois chapter of the Black Panther party, paid the most that one can pay towards the liberation of oppressed people in his life. At 3:30 AM, November 13, Jake was murdered in a shoot-out in Chicago where three Pigs were killed and seven were wounded. The shoot-out was precipitated by an ambush made by the standing Army of Chicago (Chicago Police Department) on an abandoned building at 5801 S. Calumet. Arriving on the scene with the armaments and men (more than 1,000 policemen equipped with .12-gauge shotguns, M-1 carbines, .357 magnums, billy clubs, mace, tear gas, paddy wagons, helicopters, and canine units) for domestic warfare against the people in the Black colony, these fanatical pigs started their attack by opening fire on the brother in the building. Party comrade, Lance Bell, 20, was wounded by the pigs as they shot wildly in that area.... Jake defended himself as any person should do. In essence, he had no choice; it was kill or be killed.
There may be some room for doubt whether the police were in fact mounting an "ambush," as the Panthers claim, or were simply responding to a call originally issued in the belief that James Caldwell's life was in danger, but the Panthers and the police agree that after the police arrived at least eight policemen were shot before Winters was shot.
Now he turned into a Good Guy , BULLSHIT . Fuck him then , fuck him now and fuck him forever.
From someone who was there .
HERE IS THE SAN FRANCISCO POLICE CONTRACT- HOW CAN ANYONE SAY CPD GETS A COMPETITIVE CONTRACT; AT ANY RANK.
Look at the salary increase for the next 4years and the Insurance when they retire;
When it comes to contracts, the new San Francisco police deal is one gift that will keep on giving. Yes, it contains cost-saving measures such as limiting when officers can work second jobs, cutting their ability to store and cash out on compensatory time, and even eliminating overtime for captains. But boy, does it have a nice payout -- starting with a 23 percent salary increase over the next four years. "There is no question about it, it's a rich
contract, but when compared to other cities and jurisdictions it's competitive," Supervisor Sean Elsbernd said. If approved by the Board of Supervisors, the deal would raise a patrol officer's top pay to at least $114,000 a year. That's before overtime. Sergeants and inspectors would go up to $132,000 a year, plus overtime. Captains would get at least $191,000 a year. Chief Heather Fong and her command staff aren't covered by the contract. But traditionally, the chief's pay has kept pace with the rank and file. So unless something changes dramatically, the chief will be making about $307,000 a year at the contract's end. The real payoff, however, comes when the cops retire. At the end of the contract, a 55-year-old patrol officer with 30
years under his belt will be entitled to a $109,000-a-year pension -- plus, in all likelihood, an additional 3 percent cost-of-living increase every year for the rest of the officer's life. Inspectors and sergeants with 30 years will get about $126,000 a year for life plus cost-of-living adjustments. Captains will get $182,000 a year and the chief, if she keeps pace with everyone else, about $293,000 a year, plus cost-of-living raises. And like every other city worker with five years on the job, they all get health care for life -- and half off for one dependent.
UH OH!!!
Breaking news on ch.7: PARAMEDIC brutality; and on video..
Whats next?
They tried that in Canada. Currently all Canadian residents, or those who wish to visit Canada are required to have a license. All firearms are registered too. It's been a boondoggle since it inception, and most Canadians realize it's a waste of time and energy.
As I've stated before and will til I die or someone listens, the problem is not the gun, it's the WILLINGNESS of someone to take a life that needs to be addressed.
The asshat who killed Blair got on a crowded bus where he had no chance of anonymity, and was willing to shoot people. That is what should be addressed.
When you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have them!
off topic:
Did anyone see the ch 5 news at 6? Kevin Roy (the commanders nephew) is now reporting on police/paramedic brutality.
in the state of illinois we got foid cards, but cant register them legally so who gives a fuck about a national registery...... im sure if that was a registered gun this murder would never have happened ... bobby u da man, yeah a real dumb one too///
"GUN ISSUES-STUPID PEOPLE"
OR
"GUN ISSUES-CORRUPT PEOPLE"
Hmmmm. Let's see, Mr. Rush. I wonder just how many citizens arrested after using a gun/threatening someone with a gun/etc. have FOID cards, have those guns properly registered, etc. etc. etc. (Too bad the department is so short-staffed or we could require POs to ask to see the FOID card and registration of every person they arrest with/using a gun! Wouldn't that be fun -- and an interesting little statistic for Da Mere and his blathering over gun control.) I'd be willing to wager your salary that they DON'T! It is the law-abiding citizens who do what they're supposed to: get the proper permits, licenses, etc. for things like that. These gang-banging, welfare-collecting, drug-dealing jagoffs aren't going to follow the rules any more with Blair's Bill than they do now. Please. Criminals don't get licenses. They don't follow the rules. You know that from personal experience. Now go back under your rock.
6/11/2007 08:34:00 AM
You're absolutely right.
I saw an interview over the week-end with Presidetial candidate John Edwards (democRAT)
They asked him a series of questions in regards to American citizens and to which he had to answer A)A right, or B)A privilege.
Example:with his responses
Right to healthcare? A Right
Right to college education? A right
He answered these two and about a 1/2 dozen others in similar "Nanny State" fashion, with the answer of "A Right"
When asked about gun ownership he hesitated and answered that gun ownership was "A Privilege"
AND this from a lawyer no less.
He must have slept through constitutional law because gun ownership was the only item that is in the bill of rights. All the other B.S. about free college, free healthcare, and getting your asses wiped for free are no where in the Constitution.
Keep voting DemocRAT people! First they'll take your guns, then they'll confiscate your property, and redistribute YOUR wealth while protecting their own.
Oh, yea..Bobby Rush can Kiss my loins!
UH OH!!!
Breaking news on ch.7: PARAMEDIC brutality; and on video..
Whats next?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
It will be hard to question the paramedic..
he is dead.
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/July-2007/Solo-Acts/Nora-Barry/
So much for working undercover.
bobby who paid you off when you were coming up? how did you get elected? jackson got the biggest budweiser franchise for free for his kid what did you get? your anti-police attitude is evident every time you speak! hey bobby boy put together another panther party and stop all the crime! wait a minute you started all the crime in the late 60's and early 70's! takes a criminal to know a criminal right bobby! "now go to the store with the nice man bobby and lets hope this time the nice man shows you how to shoot the right people"!
Make Illinois a conceal-carry state!!!! If every Joe-blowjob is carrying a gun, crime would go way the fuck down.
Kevin Roy (the commanders nephew)
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Actually, Kevin is the commander's brother.
I'm sorry for Officer Holt losing his son, but I can't help but wonder why he would climb in bed with Rush. Holt should despise everything Rush stands for. He should know what Rush is about and that he is being used by Rush and the agenda pushers. I hope I'm wrong, but maybe Rush promised officer Holt a merit promotion or something else, if he plays ball. We'll have to wait and see.
If it were my son I would tell every politician and media type to stay the hell away from me and my family!
.....As a kid in grade school I remember my police relatives talking about Rush. Wasnt he himself shot in the back runnin from the police in the 003rd District. maybe one of our happy retires can enlighten us. This occurred thity years ago.
Couldnt find nothing about it on the net......
THAT WAS (former Ald.) WALLACE DAVIS. Shot by the police in (I think) 013
Maybe Kevin Roy should report on "Commanders banging their subordinates" News at 10. And he could lead off with some undercover video of GR sneaking his sexretery into the Michigan summer home he (used to share) with his then wife. The follow up can be the process server handing G.R. his divorce papers in the lobby of 009. That was a classic!!! I was there and it was funny as hell.
Hey Phat Phil maybe you can stand up for family values and dump him back to 021 as a Capt. he has run his course.
009 days
The police are not allowed to carry guns there... Please read the atricle below and may God bless the fallen Officer and his family.
http://www.24dash.com/communities/21693.htm
Join the NRA! If for no other reason than it might give crime boss Daley a stroke to know that a majority of his police force were members.
Anonymous said...
On the books thier is enough laws restricting the sale/flow of guns. If those laws were just enforced.
FFL's are now impossible to get these days.
Will gun shops be required to get DNA samples now in the state of Illinois?
6/11/2007 10:03:00 AM
Yes,over 20,000 gun laws nation wide,real effective huh??20,000+
Impossible in Cook county,but not in most other places.BATFE cracked down on the "hobbyist" FFL and wants you to be "engaged in business" to turn a profit and make most of your income from a FFL.
Lastly,in the not too distant future im afraid.
"Sorry I ruined your Black Panther Party."
6/11/2007 09:12:00 AM
Forrest Gump. Great movie and probably one of the best movie soundtracks to date.
Anonymous said...
Maybe Kevin Roy should report on "Commanders banging their subordinates" News at 10. And he could lead off with some undercover video of GR sneaking his sexretery into the Michigan summer home he (used to share) with his then wife. The follow up can be the process server handing G.R. his divorce papers in the lobby of 009. That was a classic!!! I was there and it was funny as hell.
Hey Phat Phil maybe you can stand up for family values and dump him back to 021 as a Capt. he has run his course.
009 days
6/12/2007 09:14:00 AM
What agoof if had a blue shirt on he would be fired and indicted by daleys boy devine right? Fuck all the exempts what a bunch of losers but with clout they are made men!
G.R. is dumb. Period. If he was not the police, he would have been a used car salesmen. This is when race helps to reduce the negative talk. G.R. is no smarter, no better than D.S. (First), but because D.S. is black, we blast him more. There are a ton of white bosses that are as bad a D.S., like G.R. Granted, G.R. would be the the used car salesman and D.S. would be the porter, both should have never been higher than a detention aide rank.
http://www.itsabouttimebpp.com/Reunions/35th/NotYourDaddysReunion.html
Look at the reunion of "comrades" were they in the Army? Or another gang banger reunion? nice job rush? in the 60's you and your thugs wanted police dead, hell asshole you even got away with jackson stealing millions from the goverment with you bullshit breadbasket programs! You ordered to kill the police right bobby? now your the big clown!
a little off the subject but in the same issue, suntimes reports that the shooting of roberto duran was a tragedy, and curious to see how every body is lining up with the darkside two six that the kid belonged to. hey why dont they post his 14 yr old photo so that everybody can see what a bald headed back ponytail gangbanger he really was. and daley is feeling sorry for this scum. maybe daley was once a two six.
hey 8:37 AM, the truth hurts dont it, when rats like you line up with rush, what can be next the new black panther party officially running for office. WOW.
I just luv my gun.
To the copper who just LUVs his gun, your guns cheating on you.
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