Save the Cargo Pants
The fashion police readers strike again:
- Obviously SCC does not work the streets. If he did, he would know how utilitarian the cargo pants are for the guys who work a beat car. Stay behind your desk and leave the police work, and cargo pants, to the people who actually put the cuffs on the bad guys.
- You probably don't work the street if you agree to get rid of those cargo pants pockets. You need all these pockets for your search gloves, FOP book, UCR code book, and pocket size hand sanitizers!
- Obviously, SCC, you don't work the street much, if you did you would want all the pockets you can get--no matter how they looked--its a survival thing--we need to place pens, FOP book, 10-in-1 tool, kevlar gloves, plastic throwaway hospital gloves, small version of incident reporting guide, MCC code book,flashlight, and i'm sure i'm missing out some things---We need all the pockets we can get--Us supervisors need it also for the tazer's cause in most of the districts the cases are broken and we can't use them--so we only have one choice but to place them in the cargo pants pocket
Again, we work the street daily, 6 in a row, just like a few thousand other guys and gals here. We only opined that the extra pockets made the pants look goofy. The material is fine, it wears better, doesn't show snags and holds up better under trying conditions.
We've been lectured by plenty of old timers, "The more you have on your belt, the less you have in your head." We'd like to add, "The more you have in your pockets, the less likely you are to do any police work."
Two words for everyone saying you need extra pockets for FOP books, UCR books, sanitizers, gloves, pens, 10-in-1 tools, flashlights, etc: Gear Bag. We've got all of the above plus our report box, two slim jims, ticket books, extra pens, screw drivers, and hat along with 5 pairs of flex cuffs, a third pair of handcuffs, leg shackles, extra OC, aspirin, a first aid kit and a half a dozen M-80's forfun time lawful police purposes.
You carry all that extra stuff in your pants, you aren't going to make it over fences undamaged.
We've been lectured by plenty of old timers, "The more you have on your belt, the less you have in your head." We'd like to add, "The more you have in your pockets, the less likely you are to do any police work."
Two words for everyone saying you need extra pockets for FOP books, UCR books, sanitizers, gloves, pens, 10-in-1 tools, flashlights, etc: Gear Bag. We've got all of the above plus our report box, two slim jims, ticket books, extra pens, screw drivers, and hat along with 5 pairs of flex cuffs, a third pair of handcuffs, leg shackles, extra OC, aspirin, a first aid kit and a half a dozen M-80's for
You carry all that extra stuff in your pants, you aren't going to make it over fences undamaged.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
175 Comments:
You shitheads steal all the gloves from my emergency room it's pissing me off.
But I need them to fulfill Blackhawk down fantasy.
Capt Mags just got his cargo pants last week he never leaves his chair--They are here to stay
Check the FOP website in regards to items the city has responded too in negotations. This is just one topic which deals with uniform allowance.
--Uniform allowance payments required to be used toward uniform purchasing, maintaining, improving, upgrading or replacing.
--Employee is to be required to comply with accounting procedures established by the department.
So the Detective laughing in the earlier post, time to remove the foot from you mouth.
Just like the city requires you to tell them when you make over X amount of dollars they are going to make sure that if you take a uniform check from them it is spent on police uniforms or expenses, complete and utter bulshit.
Wait and see the union fuck us on this one and let it slip through
Also look at the Cities propsal for pay raises. 1.1% for July 01, 08!!!!!!!!!
We never had those disgusting cargo pants in my day! We all carried two guns and left that other crap in our vehicle trunks.
Other than a COP/Fop book and contact cards that was it.
The picture Crimefile put up from the Sun Times on his site proves a picture is a thousand words. Chicago cops look like shit today.
I see no hope for a bunch of sloppy, dead end, out of shape kids.
Fat boys and migets are all that's left...RIP-CPD
We'd like to add, "The more you have in your pockets, the less likely you are to do any police work."
BVLLSH!T. You are dead wrong here, SCC.
Amen. There was an earlier comment they look like garage guy pants, no truer words.
For the Record, They are not NYPD Pants. They're lame knockoff copycats.
Like everything else we do when we try to emulate NYPD we do it 1/2 assed and as usual end up looking like a bunch of goofs.
W-G-A-F........
Wow! I thought nobody outside of me carries the M-80's anymore.
Good for you!!
They come in real handy for a lot of things, most of them legit.
Throw a couple on a slow night in a not too nice area and sit back and wait......within two or three moments you'll get some jack ass outta the house, no shirt on, looking all tuff, and the best part, he will be carrying his gun.
Man, my fto taught me well years ago. I have had seven or eight uuw's from doing this, and they are still only a buck or two a piece in Indiana.
That is money well spent, and the face on those guys, well there is no price for that!
They are great for carrying snacks in just ask Capt Mags.
Off Topic, The decision has been made to absorb unit 051(Airport law enforcement south) into the 008 District, who works what shift will be by senority, this includes Sgts. If you are a old timer in 008 you have just hit the lottery, and to those with no time on, back to patroling the east end of hell.
One of the problems we have is that the cargo pants are poorly made. They should not be showing the wear and tear in so little time. Several years ago, downtown started to allow the uniform companies to dictate our uniform specs. 5-11 uniforms are just as expensive.
The union was going to set up a discount uniform purchasing program, but then some of the uniform houses got to them ($$$) and they dropped the idea.
The guy on the street always get the short end.
Brian my friend.....you have not climbed a fence in years and you will never climb one again unless you lose about 150lbs. It's not the cargo pants that make your ass look fat....it's your fat ass that makes you look fat!!! I know this comment will never see the light of day, but I just had to say it. In addition, it's not the baseball hat that makes you look bad, it's the fact that you need a haircut Sergeant.
And don't take this as sex talk but the 80/20's were horrible on your crotch. No room and made you very sweaty. The cargo pants tend to offer more room in the crotch and the material doesn't make you sweat at all.
The cargo pants allows me to wear my garters and hose under the pants. The old pants would show the outlines.
Don't change the cargo pants, because they are the first fucking pair of pants that are comfortable. The pockets are irrelevent and if you ask some asshole at research and development to get us the pants without the pockets you'll get some fucked up pair that some desk jockey committee votes on.
The cargo pants are great. I have suffered burns on the tops of my legs from the hot sun beating on those awful polyester pants, just driving around. If they bring back those polyester pants I will definetley be filing a lawsuit for the first burn I get. Those pants are useless, the made with single seams that that with one wrong move will split and woo hoo there are my granny panties! For 13 years I had to wear thick tights under those pants to keep my legs from getting burned and sweated my ass off in the summer because of the layers. They suck unless you work inside.
Let me keep my cargo pants. I keep them clean pressed and wear a fresh pair everyday. They are also very comfortable.
Whatever, hotshot.
i wish i could have cargo pants
fellow isp
Cargo pants are stupid. Cuffs, mace, stick, gun, badge, mags, lite. All you really need, all go on the belt. Thats it. We should look like policemen, not mountain climbers..
Thank you. Here's a clue for all you eggheads who want to ruin it and guess who SCC is. He/She has more than a few years on. I still say you shouldn't be wearing cargo pants unless you're in the military or a boy band.
Well, we are coming to the end of another pay period. This is when W (not George,Jody)likes to do his "dirty work". Anyone have any inklings of whats to come? A couple of command positions remain open, captains and sergeants need to be made, more Cline clones need punishing! Someone knows and there is nothing that pisses this anal fed off worse than someone tipping his hand early.
"Again, we work the street daily, 6 in a row, just like a few thousand other guys and gals here."
Come on SCC what else would you say in response but that. Like you would call yourself out for being inside. Your gear bag line almost beat you calling the pockets goofy. My wallet UCR FOP or anything else doesn't get caught on fences when i jump them. But putting stuff in those extra pockets when you need quick storage area is great. What kind of working six are you doing where you don't release that? I call bullshit SCC. You just got caught showing us your lack of knowledge. For what officers working in a uniform every day learn to appreciate. A little bit more lack of knowledge about the everyday copper and you'll be ready to be a boss.
24 March 2008. The LAST DAY of Beat Car police work in 008. Cameras online 25 Mar 08. Begin the countdown to 1st guy fucked over for ticky-tac bullshit.
Hey SCC - maybe its not the pants that make ya look goofy?
I think if we went to white sailor uniforms, no cops will do any fighting with offenders, they won't have foot chases with offenders and will behave prefectly to avoid getting these uniforms dirty! Its a WIN WIN for the city!
What do you say???? YES YES YES???
YOU SHOULD SEE WHAT I ALREADY CARRY IN MY PANTS! SHOULD I E-MAIL YOU A PIC, SCC? lol lol lol
When's the last time you jumped over a fence?
Mr jfed I don't care what sort of pants I wear while on duty. Just suggest to your boss he give us a fair contract Soon.
SCC you state in the last paragraph "you will not make it over fence undamaged", I am not climbing a fence and give a fuck about chasing anyone, why bother? If they run I use the 2 sidewalk rule they beat me from there bye! My pants look great, I get in the car and keep them clean, unless they get dirty from cheetos or flamin hots then it is ok! I have in my pockets my ipod great holder for it!
Holy Slim Batman!!!
You still use them. Last time a citizen locked themselves out of the car I had them break the window.
Anonymous Yours,
All those extra pockets really help on search warrants. The average copper comes out of the house being searched weighing 10 pounds more than when they went in...hmmm. Is that why so many of the "elite" on the tact teams wear those fishing vests everyday?
save the cargo pants!!! the side pockets hide my blackjack. yuk, yuk, yuk.
I gotta agree with you SCC, the pants look a bit goofy.I dont think you need to carry a load of shit on your person while answering jobs (for those that do).I think thats why some of us carry gym bags,backpacks or whatever.
I hear the in the new contract we will have to pay for the gas in the squad cars.
Im a big boss. I need them for my black berry.
There has never been a fair contract from this city.
still say you shouldn't be wearing cargo pants unless you're in the military or a boy band.
3/25/2008 12:39:00 AM
Hey all you retired fucks. Go start your on site. No one gives a shit about your opinion.
Time for a reality check. You watch too many TV cop shows.
How many cops do you know that can make it over a fence? I know I cop that fell and sprained his ankle trying to catch a suspect going over a 3' concrete wall without cargo pants. He went IOD. Forget about the fence.
Besides they're great for the extra donut holes I need for the energy I need to get to the fence, I won't attempt going over!!!!!
Any word on if Tobias is gonna be the Commander for the School Unit? It was mentioned in the "lieutenents get your resumes ready" comments.
Leave the St Jude parade alone. Nothing would make the bosses happier than getting rid of that parade.
I agree...Here is what I am going to do.
I am going to walk past their booth and turn my head away from them as I walk by. Thats my way of saying GGF!
Hey SCC, we know what you use the screwdriver on.
Capt Mags cargo pants? How many poor little cargos were slaughtered for that project.
Explain just why it is "unfair" for the city to expect that you use a uniform allowance for uniform upkeep. A few too many spoiled children on this job.
J-Fraud wears cargo pants to bed.
Nothing is more queer than a guy over 30 wearing one of those baseball hats.
IF the cargopants are taken away from us, at least let us have the same material in the old pants. Cargo pants material are best in the winter. Keeps ya warmer!
The dept. is going to approve Molle gear like the military uses, also Kevlar helmets.
The ultimate in police wear for CPD
bib overall, with those slant pockets and attached loops on the waistline......for carrying night stick and minilites, snap chest pocket idea for carrying pens and ticket books, usually made of very durible material, machine washable all seasonable, resist snaggings, urban contemporary look, fast shoulder straps release for those mad dashes to the bathrooms and those cute bronze color buttons and snaps, matches nicely with CPD blue or white shirts, bib great for eating at all of those greasy deli's and upscale soup kitchens
Military Veterans Should Be Able To Wear Their Ribbons On Their Uniform!!! You Want To Change A Part Of The Uniform, Change That!!! Our Men And Women Who Serve/Served Need To Be Recognized.
Not only save the cargo pants I wish we could have cargo boxer underwear. Just think of all of the pockets.
The only problem is I'm a little older and have too many pockets already. It takes me about 15-2- min. to find my car keys, cigarettes and lighter, flask etc.
They are great for carrying snacks in just ask Capt Mags.
He carries I57 rib tips in one pocket and fries in the other.
Get rid of the DIGBY Security and Fast Food Fish Stand baseball hats. If you guys could see how silly goofy you look in them you would burn them.
You would never wear cargo pants if you could dress in a silk Excalibar dark blue suit, a nice $300 Mastriarni dress shirt, a $175Parisani tie, Johnson and Murray soft lamb dress shoes and a Brunini black top coat. Oh! I forgot the cardinal red pocket puff.
One would not be able to walk past city hall dressed like that or you would be pulled in and have a contract shoved in you hand along with an invitation ro a fund raiser.
Cargo pants make you look like slave owners.
Reverand Rockbottom
OFF TOPIC - this is a SHOUT OUT to all officers who busted up that Meth scene. That is one deadly ass drug. THANK YOU!
Anonymous said...
Check the FOP website in regards to items the city has responded too in negotations. This is just one topic which deals with uniform allowance.
How about not allowing district personnel to be sent to other districts?
**OT AND TOTALLY TRUE!**
Name/Rank/Police Dept. witheld to protect the innocent.
On the last Downtown St. Paddy's Day parade a uniformed p.o. from the 'burbs was in a downtown tavern after marching and was enjoying a frosty beverage. This suburban dept.'s dress blues are very similar to our own CPD blues. In walks non-other than J-Fed and entourage on a premise check. Eagle-eyed J-Fed immediatley spots the copper imbibing the "gusto" approaches and states: "Officer I DO NOT want to see you drinking in uniform!" The 'burb cop recognizes J-Fed looks him in the face says "OK" and continues drinking his adult beverage. J-Fed re-emphasizes that he does not approve of this officer drinking in uniform. The officer finally says to J-Fed "Hey Man, I don't work for you! Look at the patches on my arm." Gives J-Fed a polite nod, turns away and resumes his celebration of Hibernian pride, leaving J-Fed speechless.
Capt.Mags got his cargo pants? How many square feet of material did it take to cover his fat ass?
8:50 AM
I have no issues with cargo pants.
Otherwise, suck my ass, new jack!
sorry we are not all top cops like you scc
They are great for carrying snacks in just ask Capt Mags.
Not true his pants are so skin tight he can not get his hands in the pocket
3/24/2008 10:38:00 PM
If thats true your the one to blame. Us kids came on and this was the department that was handed to us. You all mighty old timer had it all. Only to leave nothing but cameras, PODS, the DOC, no height/weight requirement, OPS/IPRA, no mag light, TRR's, and all the other bullshit that's here. You want to talk shit look at your self first. Were where you and what did you do to help save CPD during all these changes. Us "sloppy, dead end, out of shape kids. Fat boys and midgets" weren't on to stop it but you were. So fuck off with your judgement. We didn't make this it was handed to us and made by bosses from your time.
8:50 AM
Speak for yourself, goof.
Some of the veteran and retired officers give us the best advice.
I keep telling you all that the Duff family is branching out into uniform stores.
I vote for 5 on, 3 off. Or the old 10 hr schedule they had in housing.
If we get that, I don't care if they make us wear pink cargo pants.
i have looked at the photo in the suntimes multiple times.
THE PHOTO ABOUT THE REVS WANTING MORE BLACK BOSSES.
THE ROLL CALL LOOKED LIKE A BUNCH OF RECRUITS TRYING TO BE INTIMIDATING.
THOSE BASEBALL HATES JUST DONT DO IT.
I HATE UNIFORMS BUT IT LOOKS VERY SLOPPY,THE CURRENT CONFIGURATIONS.
DAMN THAT PHOTO IS BAD OUT OF SHAPE MEN, MIDGET LOOKING WOMEN, AND TACT GUYS LOOKING LIKE THEY ARE APPLYING FOR THE PART OF SERPICO....
I want Lt. Dangle short-shorts approved. I've been working on my gluts.
I love the polyester stretchy pants. I have to wear blue underwear because mine are like window screens.
Off topic
For any 8th district coppers who have kids attending John H.Kinzie school I just wanted to let you know that the school showed a rated R movie to 11 year olds that included FULL frontal male nudity. I cannot afford private school but I would instantly take my kids out of that school if I could. No permission slip was sent home regarding this movie.
stop working. I am sitting here in the area doing nothing and listening to zone12. coppers from 15 chasing a car wanted in a string of armed robberies and the sgt calls of the chase.
i am telling you now you all better wake the fuck up and realize this dept doesnt want you to work at all. i couldnt believe my ears when the coward 1510 called off the chase. yes this was a felonious vehicle that was being chased. pussy bosses not allowing us to do police work.
wake up kids, just answer ur radio jobs and thats it ! they will hang u out to dry if you think you still want to be the police.
do nothing !
i remember when LT. Jimmy wore the cargo pants. Timmy was in one pocket & Roy was in the other pocket. don't ask where Donald was hiding.
Man, my fto taught me well years ago. I have had seven or eight uuw's from doing this, and they are still only a buck or two a piece in Indiana.
Yeah ok Dorothy.
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You shitheads steal all the gloves from my emergency room it's pissing me off.
3/24/2008 10:02:00 PM
HAH! I'll admit that I do and never plan to stop.
If you dont like the cargos then stick to your hotass polyester pants and crown hat. I mean who gives a rats ass wear whatever pants your comfortable in. There are way more important issues that need be changed in our dept, uniforms should not be a priority at this moment.
3/25/2008 03:53:00 PM
You are a TOOL! THIS DEPARTMENT doesn't want you to chase. So if the Sgt lets the chase go, and the bad guys T-Bone a car with a family in it, what good will the chase have been for? Or if you get T-Boned by a truck & yourself and your partner are killed, who won? If the car that was hit killed your family, you'd question why the police were chasing someone for a bullshit robbery. The department has made it known that if there's a chase wherein a Sgt allows it to continue, that Sgt will be held responsible. If you have the balls to chase, have the balls to keep it to yourself, so that when the shit goes south, you take the heat and your Sgt is off the hook. If you're gonna chase and call it in, expect it to be called off.
BE SAFE....AND SMART!!
Do they make cargo pants big enough to fit someone like Lt. Jimmy?!
Military Veterans Should Be Able To Wear Their Ribbons On Their Uniform!!! You Want To Change A Part Of The Uniform, Change That!!! Our Men And Women Who Serve/Served Need To Be Recognized.
3/25/2008 10:45:00 AM
I do respect those that have served and i thank you for my freedom but wearing your military ribbons on your police uniform doesn't make sense. if you wanted to wear your military ribbons, you should of stayed in the military. I recieved a full college scholarship to play football at div 1 school, so should i be able to wear my acc championship trophy/ring and my degree on my uniform--- no! there is nothing wrong with being proud of your prior accomplishments but those accomplishments are in the past prior to this job and have nothing to do with your current accomplishments on this job... just my 2 cents. once again thanks for my freedom....
SCC YOU DONT UNDERSTAND IT IS MY GOAL TO HAVE ALL THE POCKETS FILLED WITH JUNK I DONT NEED (WITH MY TWO YEARS ON)SO WHEN I DEAL WITH CRIMINALS I LOOK SO STUPID THE BEGIN TO LAUGH AND THIS IS WHEN I SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HANDCUFF THE AROUND THE WRIST AND USE MY FLEXICUFFS WHICH ARE IN MY CARGO POCKETS TO CUFF THEIR ANKLES TOGETHER
PARENTS WHO CARE DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE SURE THEIR KIDS GET THE BEST. WHY DON'T YOU JOIN THE CPD AND PUT AN END TO THE TRAVESTY OF EXPOSURE TO "R" RATED MOVIES.....AND POLYESTER PANTS!!!!
Off topic also::
8th district Po's could care less about the west end. Wanna get some
coverage over in the west side?? Call in a suspicious vehicle with 4 brothers cruising the alleys. Watch the cars flock to the west. Legitimate call though. It was nice seeing the unmarked units in the area.
As for Kinzie school. Why don't you save a couple bucks and buy a house in the burbs. Cause if you cant afford grammar school you in trouble. Have you seen Kennedy?? Well guess what R rated movies wont be your only concern..Drive around during dismissal....Poles, thugs and mexicans. And they let these little fucks drive!!!! R rated movies???? Shut the fuck up...
Why not check the school PO's uniform pants (cargo or Polyester)? while you are whining......
And hope you can get the fuck out of dodge before your child is faced with attending Kennedy Correctional Academy and getting the beat down daily in the auditorium. YOU DUMBSHITS AMAZE ME....R Rated movies????Damn......
Be glad 008 has a new commander otherwise your kids would have to watch WRESTLEMANIA!!!!!..
LEO "RIC FLAIR" SCHMITZ WHEREVER YOU WERE THE MOST USELESS SKIN DONOR I HAVE EVER SEEN.....
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Off topic
For any 8th district coppers who have kids attending John H.Kinzie school I just wanted to let you know that the school showed a rated R movie to 11 year olds that included FULL frontal male nudity. I cannot afford private school but I would instantly take my kids out of that school if I could. No permission slip was sent home regarding this movie.
3/25/2008 03:40:00 PM
Anonymous said...
Military Veterans Should Be Able To Wear Their Ribbons On Their Uniform!!! You Want To Change A Part Of The Uniform, Change That!!! Our Men And Women Who Serve/Served Need To Be Recognized.
3/25/2008 10:45:00 AM
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I am not saying that I am against the military personnel who served but this is the CPD not the Military.
If you want to wear your military ribbons go back and put on a military uniform!
Anonymous said...
Check the FOP website in regards to items the city has responded too in negotations. This is just one topic which deals with uniform allowance.
--Uniform allowance payments required to be used toward uniform purchasing, maintaining, improving, upgrading or replacing.
--Employee is to be required to comply with accounting procedures established by the department.
So the Detective laughing in the earlier post, time to remove the foot from you mouth.
Just like the city requires you to tell them when you make over X amount of dollars they are going to make sure that if you take a uniform check from them it is spent on police uniforms or expenses, complete and utter bulshit.
Wait and see the union fuck us on this one and let it slip through
Also look at the Cities propsal for pay raises. 1.1% for July 01, 08!!!!!!!!!
3/24/2008 10:28:00 PM
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If the city wants us to be more accountable for our uniform allowance and make sure it is used for uniforms then perhaps they had better stop listing it on my W2 as income earned!
Income I earn I can spend any way I choose!
Off Topic but note worthy:
Went into I-Clear last night to look up the homicide count. 78 Homicides so far this year. Compared to only 53 at the same time last year.
Man, my fto taught me well years ago. I have had seven or eight uuw's from doing this, and they are still only a buck or two a piece in Indiana.
Yeah ok Dorothy.
3/25/2008 04:20:00 PM
HA HA HAH HAHA HAAA!!! You seet me to it. What an imagination.
**OT AND TOTALLY TRUE!**
Name/Rank/Police Dept. witheld to protect the innocent.
On the last Downtown St. Paddy's Day parade a uniformed p.o. from the 'burbs was in a downtown tavern after marching and was enjoying a frosty beverage. This suburban dept.'s dress blues are very similar to our own CPD blues. In walks non-other than J-Fed and entourage on a premise check. Eagle-eyed J-Fed immediatley spots the copper imbibing the "gusto" approaches and states: "Officer I DO NOT want to see you drinking in uniform!" The 'burb cop recognizes J-Fed looks him in the face says "OK" and continues drinking his adult beverage. J-Fed re-emphasizes that he does not approve of this officer drinking in uniform. The officer finally says to J-Fed "Hey Man, I don't work for you! Look at the patches on my arm." Gives J-Fed a polite nod, turns away and resumes his celebration of Hibernian pride, leaving J-Fed speechless.
3/25/2008 11:20:00 AM
Listen JACK ASS, I along with any of the other readers who have an average intelligence, (which is a very low number) do not believe yoyr fairy tale for one minute.
Cant we just get our uniform allowance on a LINK CARD?
Military Veterans Should Be Able To Wear Their Ribbons On Their Uniform!!! You Want To Change A Part Of The Uniform, Change That!!! Our Men And Women Who Serve/Served Need To Be Recognized.
3/25/2008 10:45:00 AM
Its a nice sentiment...maybe the combat ribbons but in the military you get ribbons for putting your boots on right.
Besides CPD already has a ribbon for officers in the military during this campaign.
Christ you guys are assholes. Why the fuck write anything bad about a cop? Capt Mags has help more cops out than you will ever help the whole time your on the job. You want to make fun of somebody? Maybe look in the mirror asshat! At least the person in the mirror won;t kick the shit out of you like I know a few guys would like to!
There are enough real assholes on this job that you can write about, at least leave the bosses who help cops alone!
Nice job to the PO's on the northside with the $3 million drug bust.
Some good press is needed these days!
Since when do you have to have a "look" to be the police. The cargo pants, blk gym shoes and baseball hats are just fine. If you can't be cop in that then a tie, traditional pants and shinny boots aren't gonna help you. It's how you BE the police not look like the police.
Anonymous said...
IF the cargopants are taken away from us, at least let us have the same material in the old pants. Cargo pants material are best in the winter. Keeps ya warmer!
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Regular pants with cargo pants material are already available, I bought a pair at Nates unform.
stop working. I am sitting here in the area doing nothing and listening to zone12. coppers from 15 chasing a car wanted in a string of armed robberies and the sgt calls of the chase.
i am telling you now you all better wake the fuck up and realize this dept doesnt want you to work at all. i couldnt believe my ears when the coward 1510 called off the chase. yes this was a felonious vehicle that was being chased. pussy bosses not allowing us to do police work.
wake up kids, just answer ur radio jobs and thats it ! they will hang u out to dry if you think you still want to be the police.
do nothing !
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C'mon, I like eating up the court time or taking the money. We all know the drill. One TVB for traffic court, one misdemeanor arrest and maybe a couple of felony one baggers for some extra fun court.
Going to court some months is like having a second job, and half the time I'm in court less than 2 hours. Comparatively speaking I rather be sitting in court with my thumb up my ass instead of working a second job.
That and sitting on an arrest for about 1 1/2 - 2 hours keeps me off the streets. Someone calls for back up of course my partner and I will run out there - done it before.
The biggest issue is don't write a ton of tickets. You take more money from the city by doing arrest and going to court.
WHY!!!!!!!!! Would you chase anybody who runs from you down the street or alley or any place else. The city is just foaming at the mouth to screw you over because some asshole does not want to be arrested. Just protect yourself and let the liberal assholes worry about their own. Again do not do nothing!!!!!!!!
"Sometimes, when you grow up, you where the stretchy pants for fun"
Slim Jims! Then how come you guys will never help a woman locked out of her car anymore!
And don't take this as sex talk but the 80/20's were horrible on your crotch. No room and made you very sweaty. The cargo pants tend to offer more room in the crotch and the material doesn't make you sweat at all.
3/24/2008 11:49:00 PM
Hmmmm, you mean like schweaty balls?
How about some real blue boy shorts?
" SAVE FERRIS" OR IS THAT "SEISER"
"The more you have on your belt, the less you have in your head."
Hry SCC lets give the author the credit for this one.
Sgt Bill Kasinak 025 (retired)
from someone within shouting distance from J-Feds inter sactium..a)the cargo pants are here to stay. They are patterned after the BDU's worn in the military and J Fed wants this agency needs to be more 'para military" but most importantly..he likes them and wears them and b)look forward to him wearing the uniform daily, contrary to the supposed deal he made with the FOP to wear it just for "ceremonial occasions". This is at the direction of his boss, lil Richie. He likes the Supt to at least look the part.
As for Kinzie school. Why don't you save a couple bucks and buy a house in the burbs. Cause if you cant afford grammar school you in trouble. Have you seen Kennedy?? Well guess what R rated movies wont be your only concern..Drive around during dismissal....Poles, thugs and mexicans. And they let these little fucks drive!!!! R rated movies???? Shut the fuck up...
Why not check the school PO's uniform pants (cargo or Polyester)? while you are whining......
And hope you can get the fuck out of dodge before your child is faced with attending Kennedy Correctional Academy and getting the beat down daily in the auditorium. YOU DUMBSHITS AMAZE ME....R Rated movies????Damn......
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Believe me, there is no way we are sending our kids to Kennedy. Between all the races you mentioned I also have to worry about the White trash who just hands their kids over to society and looks the other way.
Explain just why it is "unfair" for the city to expect that you use a uniform allowance for uniform upkeep. A few too many spoiled children on this job.
Never said it was unfair. If you need to spend the entire uniform check every year on new clothes you need to learn how to take care of them better. I have the same three pants and 6 shirts the last 4 years. They all still fit properl and look good. Why should I forgo and checks then becuase I am able to maintain my uniform.
"For any 8th district coppers who have kids attending John H.Kinzie school I just wanted to let you know that the school showed a rated R movie to 11 year olds that included FULL frontal male nudity. I cannot afford private school but I would instantly take my kids out of that school if I could. No permission slip was sent home regarding this movie.
3/25/2008 03:40:00 PM"
Wow, I didn't know there were any parents left that thought that an 11 year old, of either gender, doesn't know more about the human body than their parents did when they were 11.
Or is it that you want your 11 year old to feel shame at being human and naked?
Or to be totally surprised when discovering that there is such a thing as a penis?
"Oh... My... God..... what IS that, a fucking TUMOR growing between that man's thighs"?
**OT AND TOTALLY TRUE!**
Name/Rank/Police Dept. witheld to protect the innocent.
On the last Downtown St. Paddy's Day parade a uniformed p.o. from the 'burbs was in a downtown tavern after marching and was enjoying a frosty beverage. This suburban dept.'s dress blues are very similar to our own CPD blues. In walks non-other than J-Fed and entourage on a premise check. Eagle-eyed J-Fed immediatley spots the copper imbibing the "gusto" approaches and states: "Officer I DO NOT want to see you drinking in uniform!" The 'burb cop recognizes J-Fed looks him in the face says "OK" and continues drinking his adult beverage. J-Fed re-emphasizes that he does not approve of this officer drinking in uniform. The officer finally says to J-Fed "Hey Man, I don't work for you! Look at the patches on my arm." Gives J-Fed a polite nod, turns away and resumes his celebration of Hibernian pride, leaving J-Fed speechless.
3/25/2008 11:20:00 AM
Listen JACK ASS, I along with any of the other readers who have an average intelligence, (which is a very low number) do not believe yoyr fairy tale for one minute.
3/25/2008 06:57:00 PM
THIS JUST IN FROM THE CPD Women's Christian Temperance Movement...
True the story appears a little far fetched but wait, it could be true.
The way the department was trying to scare us I wouldn't doubt if J-Fed and his new "yes-men" were out just dying for a chance to jam up a copper drinking on parade day.
Hopefully nobody did anything stupid like drink in uniform after reading J-Fed's PAX 501 warning us about the ills of alcohol (I thought I was reading something from the prohibition era).
It oould be true because plenty of non-CPD coppers were having a good time and enjoying the day with their friends and families. I wouldn't put it past J-Fed in his quest to eradicate all alcohol drinking on the CPD to rashly mistake a suburban officer for a CPD officer.
I hope it is true because it goes to show that even people who are completely sober can make mistakes (even one as simple as recognizing the uniform of the department you command), J-Fed!!
Anonymous said...
I love the polyester stretchy pants. I have to wear blue underwear because mine are like window screens.
3/25/2008 03:30:00 PM
Love, TS
Slim Jims! Then how come you guys will never help a woman locked out of her car anymore!
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We get sued!!!
That's right SCC, give it to 'em. Not only has Mags paid his dues in the trenches, there was a time when he was the best looking guy on the southside. Twenty five yrs ago all the women had a crush on Mags.
LEAVE CAPT MAG ALONE
fuck this job
i am telling you now you all better wake the fuck up and realize this dept doesnt want you to work at all. i couldnt believe my ears when the coward 1510 called off the chase. yes this was a felonious vehicle that was being chased. pussy bosses not allowing us to do police work.
Did they rob his family or a another coppers family? if not it gets terminated, the only chase I will let go is shots fired at the police, other than that it gets terminated. sometimes you have to save these kids from themselves, yes I known they are out there trying to do the job but the city and department has made it quite clear they don't want chases and won't tolerate them so don't do it.
Also, the "don't call it in " is terrible advise, if a chase results in an accident and it is denied that a chase in fact existed, they are going to track down every camera from every business, as well as all the intersection cameras the Dep. of transportation has up and if it shows a chase, all involved are fucked, Rule 14, remember it. All thses cameras are being tied-in to OEMC as we speak. Don't do it!
Anonymous said...
You shitheads steal all the gloves from my emergency room it's pissing me off.
3/24/2008 10:02:00 PM
Really asshole??? Keep up the bitchin and we'll be stealing your drugs next!!! Now go change a bed pan or something!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
stop working. I am sitting here in the area doing nothing and listening to zone12. coppers from 15 chasing a car wanted in a string of armed robberies and the sgt calls of the chase.
i am telling you now you all better wake the fuck up and realize this dept doesnt want you to work at all. i couldnt believe my ears when the coward 1510 called off the chase. yes this was a felonious vehicle that was being chased. pussy bosses not allowing us to do police work.
wake up kids, just answer ur radio jobs and thats it ! they will hang u out to dry if you think you still want to be the police.
do nothing !
3/25/2008 03:53:00 PM
I am so sick of CHICKEN SHIT coppers telling the working police not to do anything. Listen CHICKEN SHIT, shut up, go hide somewhere and let the real police work, either teach the right way or shut the fuck up. We can all find excuses for not working the "REAL POLICE," those who came this job to be the POLICE find an excuse to work.
So SUK IT you CHICKEN SHIT PAYCHECK STEALING MOTHER FUCKER.
Hey Shavedlongcock! We'll stop picking on your man Mags! We don't want no problems with you!
The Keesing Bandit says---
A movie with full frontal male nudity. Is it one I missed?
Now, kees me you fool!!!
Wrong kind of Slim Jims.
My favorite are the BBQ flavored ones.
Mags can be a total pain in the ass and full of himself (like most of us), but there is none better when you need help.
The Keesing Bandit says---
All this talk about extra crotch room is making me flush.
Now, kees me you fool!!!
SCC, no one should carry the taser in a cargo pants pocket! The static electricity buildup there could cause the taser to discharge!
Get the word out! Safer to carry it in a deep vest pocket.
Off topic also::
8th district Po's could care less about the west end. Wanna get some
coverage over in the west side?? Call in a suspicious vehicle with 4 brothers cruising the alleys. Watch the cars flock to the west. Legitimate call though. It was nice seeing the unmarked units in the area.
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That happens almost everyday in the alley of 5700 S. Mobile. Then they park and walk to Kennedy after they harrass the 8th grade girls. oooh baby you fine! Glad they feel safe in our neighborhood-must be nice.
"i am telling you now you all better wake the fuck up and realize this dept doesnt want you to work at all. i couldnt believe my ears when the coward 1510 called off the chase. yes this was a felonious vehicle that was being chased. pussy bosses not allowing us to do police work."
I would have called it off. If you want to chase don't call it in, but get ready for the shit storm when it goes bad. I however, will not put my house and my pension on the line for this crappy city who will sell me out in a heartbeat. Go ahead and call me a pussy boss and balless but I am not going to be on the hook for the poor decisions made by some two year wonder who is trying to get on tact. So go ahead and chase away, just don't ask me for permission. You will see very quickly how well this City backs you when things go wrong.
Anonymous said...
Cant we just get our uniform allowance on a LINK CARD?
3/25/2008 07:02:00 PM
Now thats funny!!
Those cargo pants come in handy.Where will i put my bag of flammin hot cheese puffs??
SCC, I see I must have hit a nerve defending the 016 Tact LT, because you have allowed personal attacks against him and two members of his team that work their asses off. So, either you are on that team or you only want to allow negative posts to be seen. Disappointed with that choice. But, you are showing your colors.
Westside Survivor
Wow, I didn't know there were any parents left that thought that an 11 year old, of either gender, doesn't know more about the human body than their parents did when they were 11.
Or is it that you want your 11 year old to feel shame at being human and naked?
Or to be totally surprised when discovering that there is such a thing as a penis?
"Oh... My... God..... what IS that, a fucking TUMOR growing between that man's thighs"?
3/25/2008 10:42:00 PM
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Most parents care about their kids. Why not just let them have sex at 12 then? It's not about knowing about their bodies. Why not just show them a porno? After all one day they will watch one right?
3/25/2008 03:40:00 PM"
Wow, I didn't know there were any parents left that thought that an 11 year old, of either gender, doesn't know more about the human body than their parents did when they were 11.
Or is it that you want your 11 year old to feel shame at being human and naked?
Or to be totally surprised when discovering that there is such a thing as a penis?
"Oh... My... God..... what IS that, a fucking TUMOR growing between that man's thighs"?
3/25/2008 10:42:00 PM
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Can they go to the movie theatre and watch a rater R movie? NO
You shitheads steal all the gloves from my emergency room it's pissing me off.
3/24/2008 10:02:00 PM
This is crap! Don't blame us po-leeces! CFD is stealing those gloves! I know because they put them over their air horns and tie four of the fingers together so when they blow the horns they're giving everybody the finger! It's just so terrible I can hardly stand it!
I would have called it off. If you want to chase don't call it in, but get ready for the shit storm when it goes bad. I however, will not put my house and my pension on the line for this crappy city who will sell me out in a heartbeat. Go ahead and call me a pussy boss and balless but I am not going to be on the hook for the poor decisions made by some two year wonder who is trying to get on tact. So go ahead and chase away, just don't ask me for permission. You will see very quickly how well this City backs you when things go wrong.
3/26/2008 09:28:00 AM
I am so sick of CHICKEN SHIT coppers telling the working police not to do anything. Listen CHICKEN SHIT, shut up, go hide somewhere and let the real police work, either teach the right way or shut the fuck up. We can all find excuses for not working the "REAL POLICE," those who came this job to be the POLICE find an excuse to work.
So SUK IT you CHICKEN SHIT PAYCHECK STEALING MOTHER FUCKER.
3/26/2008 03:24:00 AM
You are a TOOL! THIS DEPARTMENT doesn't want you to chase. So if the Sgt lets the chase go, and the bad guys T-Bone a car with a family in it, what good will the chase have been for? Or if you get T-Boned by a truck & yourself and your partner are killed, who won? If the car that was hit killed your family, you'd question why the police were chasing someone for a bullshit robbery. The department has made it known that if there's a chase wherein a Sgt allows it to continue, that Sgt will be held responsible. If you have the balls to chase, have the balls to keep it to yourself, so that when the shit goes south, you take the heat and your Sgt is off the hook. If you're gonna chase and call it in, expect it to be called off.
BE SAFE....AND SMART!!
3/25/2008 05:45:00 PM
Comments like these show why morale is at an all time low on CPD. If were not ripping a Sgt. We are ripping the two year wonder like we were never there (hypocrite). Then we rip police who express their frustrations about not being able to chase anymore. If we all took this energy and focused it on the real problem. Daley and his lack of back bone with the community when it comes to how we work. Things could actually change. We all know he runs the show and tells the bosses what to do. It starts with no parkers and movers. You can still make dope and gun arrest just don't give them their revenue and bullshit numbers. Until we get serious about these types of things. Are frustration about this department will be wasted energy.
Just wondering:
The Keesing Bandit is a female, right?
Military Veterans Should Be Able To Wear Their Ribbons On Their Uniform!!! You Want To Change A Part Of The Uniform, Change That!!! Our Men And Women Who Serve/Served Need To Be Recognized.
3/25/2008 10:45:00 AM
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Why put on all that fruit salad on your vest cover.
Police ribbons on your police uniform (dress uniform only)
To the goof who wants to chase; Go the fuck ahead, just dont jam up any normal coppers & no i will not attend your fundraiser if anyone even has one for your Stupid ass! Wake up people...
and chunky or not, Mags is still cute as a button!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You shitheads steal all the gloves from my emergency room it's pissing me off.
3/24/2008 10:02:00 PM
.....and we put them in our gigantic cargo pants pockets, quit whining because I banged the nurse you couldn't get, Douchebag.
P.S. My front monkey is waaaay bigger.
Just wondering:
The Keesing Bandit is a female, right?
3/26/2008 12:46:00 PM
Nope, the bandit is a metrosexual.
You are a TOOL! THIS DEPARTMENT doesn't want you to chase. So if the Sgt lets the chase go, and the bad guys T-Bone a car with a family in it, what good will the chase have been for? Or if you get T-Boned by a truck & yourself and your partner are killed, who won? If the car that was hit killed your family, you'd question why the police were chasing someone for a bullshit robbery. The department has made it known that if there's a chase wherein a Sgt allows it to continue, that Sgt will be held responsible. If you have the balls to chase, have the balls to keep it to yourself, so that when the shit goes south, you take the heat and your Sgt is off the hook. If you're gonna chase and call it in, expect it to be called off.
BE SAFE....AND SMART!!
3/25/2008 05:45:00 PM
I am not a two year wonder I have been on this job for more then 17 years. If you are AFRAID to do your job then quit, everybody complains about Mayor Pimp stealing, but guys who do not do anything and just collect a check are stealing as well.
So SUK IT you PAYCHECK STEALING CHICKEN SHIT I AM AFRAID TO DO MY JOB police officer.
Anonymous said...
SCC, no one should carry the taser in a cargo pants pocket! The static electricity buildup there could cause the taser to discharge!
Get the word out! Safer to carry it in a deep vest pocket.
3/26/2008 07:22:00 AM
Hey Asshole! Its safer to carry it in a taser holster!!! like your supposed to carry it!!! Not in a "deep vest pocket". Do things the right way!!! Keep everybody safe!!!
The ONLY coppers in 006 Capt Mags takes care of are his stupid chosen 606 team members! It's not fair! He should let everyone rotate on those cars, because that is not fair! They do nothing better than anyone else, so he should try others out. That is only fair!
I'm so sick of being in 006!!!
-006 3rd Watch
Off topic
For any 8th district coppers who have kids attending John H.Kinzie school I just wanted to let you know that the school showed a rated R movie to 11 year olds that included FULL frontal male nudity. I cannot afford private school but I would instantly take my kids out of that school if I could. No permission slip was sent home regarding this movie.
3/25/2008 03:40:00 PM
Wow, I can't believe the reaction and suggestions some of you guys gave to this parent. I would not want my children being exposed to this type of thing in a public school.
Here is my suggestion mom, get out of Garfield Ridge. As fast as you can. Do whatever you have to do. Or switch schools.
Do you know there is a Virtual Charter school now in Chicago? Lots of police and fire kids attend. The city provides everything for them to work on school work from home online, then a couple days a week they attend school near the Depaul Campus. It is not homeschooling and they get grades assigned just like regular school.
Sorry, I like the cargo pants and find them very useful when processing an arrest. I take reports/paper/copies, narcotics bag, etc and stick it in the cargo pocket where it stays until needed. It's like an extra set of hands.
We get sued!!!
3/26/2008 12:31:00 AM
For WHAT? Jesus. I miss the old days.
To the cry baby that is complaining about the stolen gloves.
I work in health care. I would give cops a box at a time if I thought it would help them stay safe. The hospital can afford it, believe me.
"Oh... My... God..... what IS that, a fucking TUMOR growing between that man's thighs"?
3/25/2008 10:42:00 PM
So I don't want my 11 year old daughter to have to look at some guys cock means I am emotionally scarring her?
You are either a troll, or Fucked Up beyond help.
3/25/2008 03:40:00 PM
Wow, I can't believe the reaction and suggestions some of you guys gave to this parent. I would not want my children being exposed to this type of thing in a public school.
Here is my suggestion mom, get out of Garfield Ridge. As fast as you can. Do whatever you have to do. Or switch schools.
Do you know there is a Virtual Charter school now in Chicago? Lots of police and fire kids attend. The city provides everything for them to work on school work from home online, then a couple days a week they attend school near the Depaul Campus. It is not homeschooling and they get grades assigned just like regular school.
3/27/2008 10:47:00 AM
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Thank you for the suggestion and support. You would be surprised how many people think the school has the right to do this. Even one copper told me that there is no way the school would have done it because it is illegal. Um, since when is showing an R rated movie to someone under 17 violating a LAW? Ratings are not regulated by law. However the ratings are established for a reason. It seems to me this school has alterior motives for showing movies such as this. People in other states have been fired for showing such movies to students. Not in Chicago though. Police families have to deal with stuff like this because the city knows we can't just pick up and go. The virtual school is a good idea though. Thank you again for the suggestion.
Anonymous said...
"Oh... My... God..... what IS that, a fucking TUMOR growing between that man's thighs"?
3/25/2008 10:42:00 PM
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Do you have children?
"Do you have children?
3/27/2008 08:58:00 PM"
Yes.
And I didn't raise any of them to be terrified of a naked penis. Or vagina.
Nor did I raise them to be idiots, fearful of everything and everyone.
Nor did I ever lie to them, or attempt to conceal any of the realities of life, or teach them to bury their heads in the sand, like so many ostrich-like individuals choose to do, or to react to the perils of living by trembling in fear at the thought of their own, or others, sexuality, or to have contempt for others unless, and until, others prove themselves worthy of contempt, and even then, 'judge not, least thee be judged'.
I raised them to think with the brains God gave them and to not allow themselves to be brow-beaten by the willfully ignorant, especially the holier-than-thou willfully ignorant.
Do you really think that your children, or anyone's children, actually want to remain ignorant and uninformed about the aspects of life they will soon be an integral part of?
Do you really think that you are doing your children a service of any positive benefit, by striving to keep them as ignorant and uninformed for as long as possible, long after they have discovered, on their own, many to most of the things you've been led to believe they do not know of?
Do you really think you are being a 'good' parent when you deny the individuality and personality of the very persons you believe you love and care for?
Get off your lazy ass and relate to your children as the persons they are, and maybe, just maybe, they will trust you enough to be honest with you and share who they are with you, not just show you only what you've trained them to believe you want to see.
Our children are born to become adults; the longer you insist on obstructing and interfering with them learning how to live their lives, the less prepared they will be.
"Can they go to the movie theatre and watch a rater R movie? NO
3/26/2008 11:42:00 AM"
You have got to be kidding.
With all the real problems in this world, do you really think that kids don't get in to see whatever movie they put their minds to seeing?
And that kids don't know how to download ripped videos from the Internet?
And that the natural curiosity, in kids, and desire to know what they do not yet know, can be, or should be, denied or obstructed?
If you don't know it already, your job, as a parent, is to prepare your children to live in the real world, not to satisfy some fantasy you harbor of vicariously reliving your 'innocent' childhood.
As for
"Do you know there is a Virtual Charter school now in Chicago? Lots of police and fire kids attend. The city provides everything for them to work on school work from home online, then a couple days a week they attend school near the Depaul Campus. It is not homeschooling and they get grades assigned just like regular school.
3/27/2008 10:47:00 AM"
that's a swell idea, remove all experiences concerning the actual living with other people, get your kids accustomed to seeing everyone, other than you and yours, as not suitable associations, train them to fear and reject most of the living part of life, deny them the opportunities to have to learn to deal with the various aspects of human behavior, that'll really prepare them for when they have to actually live in the world.
No wonder the mayor has this city by the balls, when smart people, like yourselves, choose to flee, in terror, at the horrible thought of an exposed johnson appearing for a few moments in a fucking movie.
Grow the fuck up.
anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
"Oh... My... God..... what IS that, a fucking TUMOR growing between that man's thighs"?
3/25/2008 10:42:00 PM
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Do you have children?
3/27/2008 08:58:00 PM
He's 12, how could he?
Yes.
And I didn't raise any of them to be terrified of a naked penis. Or vagina.
Nor did I raise them to be idiots, fearful of everything and everyone.
Nor did I ever lie to them, or attempt to conceal any of the realities of life, or teach them to bury their heads in the sand, like so many ostrich-like individuals choose to do, or to react to the perils of living by trembling in fear at the thought of their own, or others, sexuality, or to have contempt for others unless, and until, others prove themselves worthy of contempt, and even then, 'judge not, least thee be judged'.
I raised them to think with the brains God gave them and to not allow themselves to be brow-beaten by the willfully ignorant, especially the holier-than-thou willfully ignorant.
Do you really think that your children, or anyone's children, actually want to remain ignorant and uninformed about the aspects of life they will soon be an integral part of?
Do you really think that you are doing your children a service of any positive benefit, by striving to keep them as ignorant and uninformed for as long as possible, long after they have discovered, on their own, many to most of the things you've been led to believe they do not know of?
Do you really think you are being a 'good' parent when you deny the individuality and personality of the very persons you believe you love and care for?
Get off your lazy ass and relate to your children as the persons they are, and maybe, just maybe, they will trust you enough to be honest with you and share who they are with you, not just show you only what you've trained them to believe you want to see.
Our children are born to become adults; the longer you insist on obstructing and interfering with them learning how to live their lives, the less prepared they will be.
3/28/2008 12:06:00 AM
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wow! no wonder the public does not like Chicago Police Officers. You sound very bitter.
No wonder the mayor has this city by the balls, when smart people, like yourselves, choose to flee, in terror, at the horrible thought of an exposed johnson appearing for a few moments in a fucking movie.
Grow the fuck up.
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It's not the school's job to parent.
If you don't know it already, your job, as a parent, is to prepare your children to live in the real world, not to satisfy some fantasy you harbor of vicariously reliving your 'innocent' childhood.
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Right, the job of a PARENT, not the job of a teacher.
No wonder the mayor has this city by the balls, when smart people, like yourselves, choose to flee, in terror, at the horrible thought of an exposed johnson appearing for a few moments in a fucking movie.
Grow the fuck up.
3/28/2008 12:22:00 AM
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Obviously the city has your dumbass by the balls because you don't know how to read. There is nothing at all sheltering about the Virtual Charter School that has been established recently in Chicago. It is not homeschooling amish bullshit. It's real school taught by real teachers. They go on field trips, socially interact with kids and two days a week attend class in a classroom.
My child doesn't go to this school, we pay for her to attend a private school that is very expensive. Not everyone can afford to do that.That coupled with the fact that you are forced to live here without any good public school options surrounding your own neighborhood means you don't have that many options to begin with.
Wait...maybe I will move....oh, I can't because my home is worth $60,000 less than my current mortgage.
I know two police families that attend this new school and it works out very well for them.
It's ashame you take the innocence of a child for granted. I don't. I am a parent and I take it very seriously.
P.S. You sound like a hillbilly. So your kids are the ones we are trying to get away from FYI.
"It's ashame you take the innocence of a child for granted. I don't. I am a parent and I take it very seriously.
P.S. You sound like a hillbilly. So your kids are the ones we are trying to get away from FYI.
3/28/2008 08:47:00 PM"
What is your definition of 'innocence'? (be as thorough as you are capable and willing to be)
What is the basis of your definition of 'innocence'? (ditto on the thoroughness request)
What is your definition of being a parent? (ditto on the ditto on the thoroughness request)
What is your definition of 'hillbilly'? (no need to be thorough on this one, just honest)
Also, please elaborate on your stated opinions of "...It is not homeschooling amish bullshit..." and "...It's real school taught by real teachers....", being as detailed and specific as you are able and willing to be.
In addition, do you know the name of the movie in question, and have you ever seen it?
Also, what percentage of your children's time is spent in school, what percentage is spent experiencing the world outside of their home environment, both physically and mentally, and what percentage of their time is spent associating with people other than their parents?
Feel free to break down the above percentages on a year by year basis, from their birth through their turning 18 years of age.
Finally, please address the concept, if not already addressed in your responses to the above, of the difference, in perspective, between a parent whose primary desire is to help prepare their children for living their own lives and a parent whose primary desire is for their children to effectively become clones of themselves.
Sincerly,
Festus Hagen
Why wear any pants at all? This would solve all the departments problems.
3/28/2008 11:20:00 PM:
What was your question again?
Our children are born to become adults; the longer you insist on obstructing and interfering with them learning how to live their lives, the less prepared they will be.
3/28/2008 12:06:00 AM
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This mentality is what is wrong with all the number 1's. At 7 years old they are adults--good job parents!!! The children on the east side are certainly learning how to live their lives that is why all of the honor students are getting killed. No innocence with those kids, it's gone at 5 years old because of people who share your views.
"This mentality is what is wrong with all the number 1's. At 7 years old they are adults--good job parents!!! The children on the east side are certainly learning how to live their lives that is why all of the honor students are getting killed. No innocence with those kids, it's gone at 5 years old because of people who share your views.
3/29/2008 11:15:00 AM"
Since the original comment that started this little exchange concerned an allegation that an 11 year old was 'subjected' to watching an R-rated movie at school, your leap of ignorance makes one wonder what your agenda is.
Exaggeration and deception are most often seen coming from our politicians.
Might you be one of them?
Finally, please address the concept, if not already addressed in your responses to the above, of the difference, in perspective, between a parent whose primary desire is to help prepare their children for living their own lives and a parent whose primary desire is for their children to effectively become clones of themselves.
Are you really 'The Shell Answer Man'?
Do you really want everyone to be a clone of your enlightened communist self?
Does SCC really pay you by the word or by the question?
Will you really autograph my fudge-packer?
Why are you really so angry?
Yawn.
Really.
"Are you really 'The Shell Answer Man'?
Do you really want everyone to be a clone of your enlightened communist self?
Does SCC really pay you by the word or by the question?
Will you really autograph my fudge-packer?
Why are you really so angry?
Yawn.
Really.
3/30/2008 01:22:00 PM"
A beautiful Sunday afternoon and you have nothing better to do than this?
Exaggeration and deception are most often seen coming from our politicians.
Might you be one of them?
3/30/2008 08:45:00 AM
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yes I might be.
Anonymous said...
" I'm going relax in my quiet civilized neighborhood "
Only problem is that liberals are moving the animals into our backyards with Section 8.
3/30/2008 04:28:00 PM
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Leave it to the liberals. Then they are the ones crying when the animals rob them. Nothing like working for a living only to share your block with someone fresh from the ghetto.
Since the original comment that started this little exchange concerned an allegation that an 11 year old was 'subjected' to watching an R-rated movie at school, your leap of ignorance makes one wonder what your agenda is.
Exaggeration and deception are most often seen coming from our politicians.
Might you be one of them?
3/30/2008 08:45:00 AM
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I did not read the original comment, unlike you I had other things to do. I do not have all the time on my hands that you do to do research.
Kizie school is a great school, just ask any of the administrators.
Festus Hagen,
Now I know why you are so out of it. You are commenting from your nursing home. That explains it, you grumpy old man.
I had to Google to see who in the world Festus Hagen was. It's a character from Gunsmoke.
It's probably time for your meds huh?
Might you be one of them?
3/30/2008 08:45:00 AM
You meant 'one of us'.
I thought so.
How does your 'life partner' feel about the 12-hours a day you spend viewing on-line porn and writing your incredibly insightful SCC posts?
Enjoy your furlough!
"I did not read the original comment, unlike you I had other things to do. I do not have all the time on my hands that you do to do research.
3/30/2008 09:30:00 PM"
So you form and express an opinion based on your admitted lack of knowledge and you figure what?
Is this your preferred way of living in this world and relating to those around you?
By being willfully ignorant and confidently opinionated?
And how much time does it takes to think before you comment?
"Festus Hagen,
Now I know why you are so out of it. You are commenting from your nursing home. That explains it, you grumpy old man.
I had to Google to see who in the world Festus Hagen was. It's a character from Gunsmoke.
It's probably time for your meds huh?
3/31/2008 01:19:00 AM"
What can one say to those choosing Thoughtlessness over Thoughtfulness?
Mockery over Respect?
Arrogance over Humility?
Foolishness over Wisdom?
Ignorance over Experience?
What CAN one say to the willfully infantile?
So you form and express an opinion based on your admitted lack of knowledge and you figure what?
Is this your preferred way of living in this world and relating to those around you?
By being willfully ignorant and confidently opinionated?
And how much time does it takes to think before you comment?
4/01/2008 04:52:00 AM
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Whatever you think of me I am obviously getting your attention. What does that say about you? Basically it takes nothing to interest you then right?
So you form and express an opinion based on your admitted lack of knowledge and you figure what?
That you're an egotistical evangelical ass-wipe with a very high opinion of yourself and a low opinion of everyone else.
Is this your preferred way of living in this world and relating to those around you?
Nope.
By being willfully ignorant and confidently opinionated?
Ditto Nope, but you've appeared to have cornered the market on being confidently ignorant and willfully opinionated. Did Jesus teach you these self-aggrandizing life skills or did you pick 'em up in the grocer's freezer at Dominick's?
And how much time does it takes to think before you comment?
About as long as it takes for you to reach into your bottomless bag of self-righteousness and pull out another road apple to force-feed the rest of us.
Now go turn on the nite-lite and don't forget to kiss your ego nite-nite.
"What CAN one say to the willfully infantile?
4/01/2008 04:58:00 AM"
That it's great to have a laugh at your expense, daddy.
4/01/2008 04:58:00 AM (Esq.):
So your column of traits obviously includes Thoughtfulness, Respect, Humility, Wisdom and Experience.
And on top of all that you're the police?
Wow.
Nice to meet you, J-Fed.
Anonymous said...
So you form and express an opinion based on your admitted lack of knowledge and you figure what?
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Why don't you just stop posting, you are making a fool of yourself. You did not get enough hugs as a kids did you?
"Whatever you think of me I am obviously getting your attention. What does that say about you? Basically it takes nothing to interest you then right?
4/01/2008 07:49:00 AM"
and?
"4/01/2008 09:34:00 AM"
"4/01/2008 09:35:00 AM"
"4/01/2008 09:53:00 AM"
and?
"Why don't you just stop posting, you are making a fool of yourself. You did not get enough hugs as a kids did you?
4/01/2008 11:34:00 PM"
In reverse order:
I submit comments, the kind souls who own this blog decide whether to post them or not. You got a beef, take it up with them.
As for the sequence from 9:34am through 9:53am, thoughtful commentary is not your forte'.
And sarcasm is rarely an attractive quality in a anyone, especially stupid sarcasm.
Since this entire exchange of comments began as a disagreement over the 'appropriate' nature of a single event occurring within a school environment, that being the viewing of an R-rated movie containing an alleged scene of 'full frontal' male nudity, one can only surmise that the original posted comment:
"Off topic
For any 8th district coppers who have kids attending John H.Kinzie school I just wanted to let you know that the school showed a rated R movie to 11 year olds that included FULL frontal male nudity. I cannot afford private school but I would instantly take my kids out of that school if I could. No permission slip was sent home regarding this movie.
3/25/2008 03:40:00 PM"
was submitted by someone who strongly feels that their children have no need to be 'exposed' to images of the naked human body until they presumably are permitted to, by their parents.
The sequence of comments on this issue that followed may have been made by multiple individuals, but, as the anonymous nature of blogging provides only clues as to who is posting what, what we're left with is the content minus an identifiable contributor.
No matter, it is the thoughts that count.
My point was that ignorance is rarely beneficial to children, especially children approaching puberty.
And that children, being human beings, will seek out what they are curious about, with or without a parent's guidance.
And that an R-rated movie shown in school is the least of a parent's worries.
As for the first comment above, I have more respect for your opinion than you do, since you presume that your opinion has no value.
Or is it that you know your opinion has no value?
The sequence of comments on this issue that followed may have been made by multiple individuals, but, as the anonymous nature of blogging provides only clues as to who is posting what, what we're left with is the content minus an identifiable contributor.
Wow, you discovered that all on your own? I hazard to say I'd have never figured that out without your help. Thanks Festus. Are you a defective in A3 or a sgt. in 015?
As for the first comment above, I have more respect for your opinion than you do, since you presume that your opinion has no value.
Or is it that you know your opinion has no value?
Having YOU presume something has no value is a badge of honor, for it means the opposite is true.
What is Festus' problem? Seiser for CPS !!!
"4/06/2008 10:49:00 AM"
Now this was a feeble, non-response, even for you.
You CAN do better, if you try.
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