Air Support Absent
Any idea why they're grounding the helicopter unit for a few weeks? We hope they're retrofitting the bird with missiles and cannon. Something like this would be a nice start:
We've even got a target list available.
We've even got a target list available.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
67 Comments:
Its because the unit is USELESS.
PH1: Ph1
Squad:PH1 on zone_
PH1:Squad event number for a premise check at_____.
Squad: take.....
Ph1:Thank you Squad hold us going to refuel.
Repeat.again and again.
Chicago to pay United $163M for cargo site;
The City of Chicago is poised to pay United Airlines $163 million to relocate a cargo facility that lies in the path of the next runway planned for O'Hare International Airport.
January 21, 2009 11:35 PM
Dont think the city will be crying poor ...they gots lots and lots of money.
What a joke we are. The Columbus (OH) Police Department has SIX helos and we have what, 2, one of which is a hand me down from the Fire Department. Not that I care, they can sell them as long as I get a 5 percent raise
Hey S.C.C. Off topic. how many people posted a comment regarding the Disaster in 017? s that the most you have seen? Oh by the way... Mealer, I hope you rot in Kazakistan or where ever borat lives. You Sir are an ASSHAT
Love, Everyone In 017
Chopper- never around when you actually need em. Day late and a dollar short when the shits hitting the fan. But they sure can call in for event #'s in the doc pretty good. I love it when they respond to a disturbance call and light the whole corner up with light. All the bad guys run well before any officer arrives alloying them all to get away. Not to mention removing any element of surprise for the responding beat car.
I've seen gunfire like this from a helicopter during my training in the Marine Corps. We would clean up the west and south sides in a matter of hours on a hot July evening.
Because of buying a real helo like a UH-1 we bought some cheap crap that is crappy in the cold. you notice that the sleepy heads helo was still operational....wait they got a Huey.
Ah, the good ol' days. A Huey, an M-60 (No Minis then!) and an M-79 grenade launcher. Who needed golf clubs?
Of course, today's kids on the job won't get to experience that, or from what I read, the opportunity to be the "real police."
To your target list I add the following locations in the 005th District:
Altgeld Gardens
Wheelworks
House of Hope (Bye Douchebag!)
Liquor Stores
Aldermen Offices
Thanks!
Don't you just love the smell of gunpowder in the morning?
They may be going into phase. Every x amount of hours you have scheduled maintenance you have to do. Then again the Army just cancelled the armed reconnaissance helicopter replacement for the Kiowa so maybe we're getting the prototype.
Because of buying a real helo like a UH-1 we bought some cheap crap that is crappy in the cold. you notice that the sleepy heads helo was still operational....wait they got a Huey.
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All helicopters perform better in the cold. The air is more dense
Let this beast hover over the following streets. Crystal, Iowa, Lexington, Huron, and on and on....
They can ground the egg beaters for a year and the street police would never miss it. Hell, we wouldn't even know it was grounded if they hadn't told us.
The whirly birds do more for crook county then they do for CPD. Every time I hear them they are heading to suburban cook county to fly around.
I'm guessing the fly boys prefer the greater airspace over the burbs.
Barren land, car fires, bullets flying and loud music: was that live footage from Englewood?
That would be nice for conducting NSRs.
The city needs to invest in something that has some real loitering time like an fixed wing aircraft. A good aircraft would be the Douglas DC-3. Fit it out with mini-guns and you'll have "Puff the Dragon" and you'll be clearing out the slums of Chicago in no time. Of course, just because you have a good plane, it doesn't mean shit unless you have a good pilot who knows how to pivot around a point and so forth. In a hand of a good/proficient pilot, any fixed wing aircraft is just as good as a chopper. Btw, is this PD looking for a new pilot?
The only down-fall w/ the helicopter program/ as with all of our programs is there is not enough, be it airframes or pilots there just isn't enough. There should be a one flying almost every min of every day. Maybe one north and one south. Did the department ever think about asking if more coppers wanted to train to do it? Yea it is true from time to time it is there after the fact but. there has been times when it has helpped out greatly. I have been involved in a few instances that the eye in the sky has been able to zero in on the bad guy and allow responding units to take him in custody w/ no harm being brought to the officers. One of which was a veh pursuit that was terminated by several juristictions, to include ours. They eye just "followed" him until he bailed then told us where to find him.
The Fire Department and the the Police Department have helicopter and SCUBA units. Sounds like a duplication of manpower. My thinking is only the Police Department should have these units. The Fire Department could request assistance from the Police if they have a need for them. The Police and the Fire Departments do rescue work but only the Police do patrol and collect evidence. In NYC it was the Police dive teams sent to the downed jet in the Hudson river.
They may be going into phase. Every x amount of hours you have scheduled maintenance you have to do. Then again the Army just cancelled the armed reconnaissance helicopter replacement for the Kiowa so maybe we're getting the prototype.
you tool the helicopters are both just sitting idle at the base, NO PILOTS NO MAINTENANCE ISSUES AT ALL
Maybe F.H mr i never have left the 004th district ever csn go aand fly PH1
Bye Bye Helo Unit
Maybe if they had not got rid of so many people they could have pilots available instead of shutting down the whole unit
we can hook up a huge net underneath the chopper and its sole mission can be to tote away all the bullshit from headquarters and city hall. needless to say, they'll be pretty busy.
A good crew chief flies the flight, fights the fight, and then when the pilots go off for cocktails, pulls the necessary maintenance.
Becuz, next flight, his butt will be in the $1 nylon jump seat with the rest of the folks, so it better fly.
What you might call a "No Whining Zone?"
No Pilots!
The correct answer is because there is NO ONE TO FLY IT. Harry Hohm made sure he drove out almost every pilot from the unit that threatened his $200,000+ gig (Commanders pension + $110,000ish for "Chief Pilot.") One of those left is on the medical. The other is on furlough. Plenty of pilots on the department-just all transferred out or never went in to avoid Hohm. Hohm let it be known that no other supervisors who could fly would be allowed in, throwing out all the sgts and above currently licensed. Remind me again who Hohm's clout is...
"How can you shoot women and children like that?"
"Ya just don't lead them as much!"
from FULL METAL JACKET.
6425 S. Lowe
Anonymous said...
Hey S.C.C. Off topic. how many people posted a comment regarding the Disaster in 017? s that the most you have seen? Oh by the way... Mealer, I hope you rot in Kazakistan or where ever borat lives. You Sir are an ASSHAT
Love, Everyone In 017
1/22/2009 12:48:00 AM
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Kazakistan is a beautiful vacation spot! Prostitutes galore!!!!
Very nice...How much?
Hard to rot there!
Got your back Mealer.....
017 CAPS
I love seeing those tracer rounds honing in on Jihadi heads.
Death From Above!
Oooraahhhh!
The helicopter is down because they have NO PILOTS!!! They fired Harry The Hat which was a very good thing. That left them with only two pilots. One of them is on furlo and the other hit the medical!! They need more pilots.....lots more pilots!!
event event ecent event event#####
At the end of this downtime for the helicopter, crime stats will not have been affected at all but there will have been 25,000 less event numbers issued.
They need to find a better way to use this tool. A helicopter can be a very useful tool in police work but if there is nobody in the unit who knows anything about police work it's hard to succeed.
Chopper never around
Harry The Hat really fucked that unit up!!!!! EGOS !!!!!!
USELESS
There is plenty of pilots but The hat did not want any one trained
The correct answer is because there is NO ONE TO FLY IT. Harry Hohm made sure he drove out almost every pilot from the unit that threatened his $200,000+ gig (Commanders pension + $110,000ish for "Chief Pilot.") One of those left is on the medical. The other is on furlough. Plenty of pilots on the department-just all transferred out or never went in to avoid Hohm. Hohm let it be known that no other supervisors who could fly would be allowed in, throwing out all the sgts and above currently licensed. Remind me again who Hohm's clout is...
1/22/2009 01:59:00 PM
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You are full of <>it,
Sell them and get some new badly needed squad cars
They did put it in the bulletin, but the HARRY The Hat would not take anyone, Sodini brought his boy in with no helicopter background
A couple of dedicated UAVs would be much more useful for policing the city.
Cheaper, ability to loiter and less risk.
Although without the hellfire capability...
Did the department ever think about asking if more coppers wanted to train to do it?
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It costs about $700 an hour to train in a bell 206. Do you think the dept will ever foot that bill.
call the Chief
they have gotten more event numbers for jardine water plant than any other palce in chicago.
Call the Chief Flight instructor
the Chief TFO, The Chief Sergeant the Chief Secretary, and the Chief janitor damn it we need the helicopter
SRT said...
Its because the unit is USELESS.
PH1: Ph1
Squad:PH1 on zone_
PH1:Squad event number for a premise check at_____.
Squad: take.....
Ph1:Thank you Squad hold us going to refuel.
Repeat.again and again.
1/22/2009 12:05:00 AM
They wold have had refuel facilities at Meigs but that went the Daley Way.
Now, a Bell JetRanger Helicopter, of the type I figure the CPD helicopter is, cost around $700 an hour to operate. Figure an hour flight time back and forth, just to fuel the thing, and it gets mighty expensive to fly the helo over to Midway just for fuel.
That helicopter likely has a fuel capacity of around 91 gallons. At around $6 a gallon for jet fuel that is $546 for a whole fill up. They never get an entire tank full. So getting to the fuel is more expensive than the fuel itself.
Do you think it just might be cheaper to get a fuel truck to go to the aircraft and bring fuel to the helicopter? Oh, I forgot for a second where I was, a Mayoral cousin probably has the fuel concession at Midway.
Add to that list in 015:
5501
321 n central
1100 lawler
22's beat (all)
Wash/Pine
Lavergne & Hubbard
Iowa & Lamon
100 La porte
I find it sad that Channels 2, 5, 7, and 9 each have a helicopter and its contracted all by the same firm. You would think that Chicago could do the same thing as the local news stations do.
Heck, there are two former LASD MD's owned in Chicago, and I'd bet with the economy the way it is, their owner would be happy to move them back to airborne law enforcement.
Off topic....Hey, SCC, guess what I saw this evening? I saw the Cmdr of Area 4 Detectives driving SB on Western Ave. in a new Ford TAURUS Sqaud car! Special lights in the back and the rear side windows, wide tires....is this what the City will be purchasing for the Exempts to tool around in?
Anybody have the scoop on this new set of exempt wheels?
Anonymous said...
they have gotten more event numbers for jardine water plant than any other palce in chicago.
1/22/2009 05:18:00 PM
It's the most important place in the city...dumb ass
Add to that list in 015:
5501
321 n central
1100 lawler
22's beat (all)
Wash/Pine
Lavergne & Hubbard
Iowa & Lamon
100 La porte
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Fuck 15, how about just worrying about our city's tax base. 18,19,16,21 and half of 8
6425 S. Lowe
Is that building still open. I remember a pickle jar coming through my windshield out of one of the windows. What a shit hole.
SRT said...
Its because the unit is USELESS.
It is not useless it sores majestically above the sky flashing its huge light on people hoping that they disperse
Anonymous said...
they have gotten more event numbers for jardine water plant than any other palce in chicago.
1/22/2009 05:18:00 PM
It's the most important place in the city...dumb ass
yes it is but getting an event number is not going to protect it, dumb ass
evnt number
I know of at least four sgt Harry the Hat drove away two were licensed commercial pilots
If you take out the west and south side we'll save billions of tax dollars. No more paying the link card tab.
the unit needs complete new leadership
Off topic....Hey, SCC, guess what I saw this evening? I saw the Cmdr of Area 4 Detectives driving SB on Western Ave. in a new Ford TAURUS Sqaud car! Special lights in the back and the rear side windows, wide tires....is this what the City will be purchasing for the Exempts to tool around in?
Anybody have the scoop on this new set of exempt wheels?
1/22/2009 11:00:00 PM
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A/3 guy's had one for awhile now. What's the big deal?
Anonymous said...
they have gotten more event numbers for jardine water plant than any other palce in chicago.
1/22/2009 05:18:00 PM
It's the most important place in the city...dumb ass
yes it is but getting an event number is not going to protect it, dumb ass
1/23/2009 01:53:00 PM
terrorist listen to the police radio, you figure it out. perception is key. Dumb ass
terrorist listen to the police radio, you figure it out. perception is key. Dumb ass
1/23/2009 08:26:00 PM
not only are you a dumb ass you are a Fool, you think that Harry Hohm just like your car you drove in the lake
The main reason there down is, Sgt F.H is having a hair transplant.
If you need helicopter support you are doing something wrong.
F.H what a tool
i think we have police impersonators in helo unit
some are even impersonating being Pilots just ask the two sgts, there
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