Saturday, January 17, 2009

Hiring Equals Less Manpower?

The numbers just don't add up.

The new PAX 501 shows just how silly this Department is:
  • 200 Recruits to be hired in all of 2009
  • Promotions from the rank of patrolman as follows:

    80 Sergeants
    85 Detectives
    35 other D-2 spots
That equals 200 promotions. Which means hiring is a wash this year.

Now factor in the regular 500 to 600 retirements. And the additional retirements once a contract is signed. And who knows how many if Pension Portability becomes law.

The Department is going to have to shut down two Districts just to alleviate the shortages in Patrol.

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163 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Close down 007 and chalk up the whole area as a loss. Let us never speak of what it was ever again.

1/17/2009 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NEW YORK CITY hires 1000 police officers and plans to train all of them with tactical assault rifles!
Plus they all got raises and will be making 90k by their 5 yr anniversary.
CHICAGO= NO CONTRACT
200 hires
FLIMSY promotions!
At least in New York if you work hard you can expect getting promoted.
Chicago is only who you know, nothing to do with productivity!

1/17/2009 01:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:
Does anyone else think Blago is the Drew Peterson of the political world? This jag bag just seems like he is enjoying all of the attention.
I just pray the outcome for Rod is different!

1/17/2009 01:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Mayor is running this Dept and it's time to get a new Mayor.....

1/17/2009 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well he made more Unit.

1/17/2009 01:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Word out that there was mutiny on the Bounty in 017. Anyone know anything?

1/17/2009 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TR's CPD Special
shot and a beer and a knckle sandwich

Free of course
we dont expect cops to pay

1/17/2009 01:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, so a whopping 56 legit sgts off the list for the whole year and 24 merit ones.

And 69 legit det's off the list.

What's the point in even studying for these things if they barely promote anyone.

1/17/2009 01:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC NEW TOPIC!!!!

If you have heard the reported stories:
John HARRIS (ex-Deputy Superintendent of Administrate Services)- Blagojevich's Chief of Staff has been ratting out the soon to be imprisoned ex-Governor and possibly other scum-bag politicians? (aka: "DICKY D")
He is singing like a bird.

Perhaps Patrick Fitzgerald should press him to give information on the CORRUPT promotional exam process of the CPD and see just who orders those to be made meritorious.

We should contact him:

Patrick Fitzgerald
219 S. Dearborn Street
Fifth Floor
Chicago, IL 60604
TELEPHONE:(312)353-5300

1/17/2009 02:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For prospective sgt's:
The last class made off the old list was in Dec 2006.
So since the new list has been up, they've only made 69 sgts off the list. That is no joke, not a made up number. That is the total sgts promoted off the new sgts list since Dec 2006. So making it legit off the list is about as hard as a woman getting a date with Luberman... (near impossible)

1/17/2009 02:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was a good comment on a previous thread saying that when coppers don't feel that they can actually make promotions the legit way it makes them turn to different, maybe less legit ways to earn more money, etc..
If i had no real chance at getting a promotion (seeing that they barely take anyone off the lists) i could see how things could start to get really frustrating and could lead to me having to do other things to make money and such.

1/17/2009 02:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the feeling out there is that it is basically impossible to get legitimately promoted now a-days.
The last list only went to 362 people over about 5 years.

This new one is only at 88 and it's been over 2 years now.

Why bother.

1/17/2009 02:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police shooting in 012 by coopers from 009 excuting search warrant. Any info??
Everyone ok??

1/17/2009 02:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess no written exam this year either? SCC that means by NOV we will be going on 3 years with out this department having 1 written exam! What a joke!!!

1/17/2009 03:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Makes perfect sense. JFed responded today with a question from the media regarding how he views himself as the leader of the Chicago Police Department with him replying, "I may be an idiot sir. But there is one thing that I am not sir, and that sir, is an idiot." Weird

1/17/2009 04:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been wanting to test for a long time now. I did not meet the college requirement for the Nov. 2006 test. Now I will have met it but it looks Shortshanks has fucked the CPD. I have wanted to be a Chicago Police Officer for a long time now, but I am afraid I will never get the chance.

It seems like being 4,000 to 5,000 officers short would be a good indication that maybe they need to start hiring quick!

The management of the city is horrible and I pray that one day competent people can be found.

God bless the CPD. Stay safe.

1/17/2009 05:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More chiefs no more indians typical city bullshit! Why is there a girl at the airport making d-2 pay,while she would better utilized with that high pay rate somewhere else? "Pay to play" lives! Again clout rules as usual!

1/17/2009 05:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This Department is just plain stupid!

Don't stick your neck out for anything on this job!

1/17/2009 05:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll believe the number of promotions as they happen. J-Fed lied to us in our town meetings and changes things as he goes.

1/17/2009 06:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That’s great news. So that pretty much covers all the clout babies that need promotions. Now they can cover their increased mortgage bill, property tax increase, public parking, and pretty much any consumer goods that are purchased in shitcago. At least they now have a few more dollars to give back to the state of Illinois. Good I can’t wait to see that asshole get dumped from his appointed thrown. It just sickens me every time I have to see that restarted face of his. What planet is from again? For those of you that make it based on your own testing skills, disregard the last few comments, I know it would only be a handful of people at that.

1/17/2009 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't jody promise he would define merit about a year ago?

1/17/2009 07:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Weird

1/17/2009 04:56:00 AM"


He's been getting speaking lessons from daley.

1/17/2009 07:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thank god 9 came into 12 to fight crime because our no nothing tact teams in 12 are a joke. all new kids who chase after holding the offender jobs of beat cars and drinking on the public way. can anyone tell me if we still have the worst tact team in the city

1/17/2009 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

screw the education requirements give me a city born and rasied high school graduate with street sense over these so called college educated being preped for house mouses any day Chandler Chandler anyone anyone

1/17/2009 07:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Years ago I became a insider down at the Hall (as we call it) and if any of you Po's or Sgt's, Lt's actually think you made ANY type of promotion list legally, brother I got a bridge to sell you!

When the results came back to the Hall from the testing company we would make certian criteria requirements to change the test scores to promote who we wanted or needed, weather it be psycholigical, physical or educational or racial it did not matter we changed or rigged the results plain and simple accordingly to the fifth floor! Remember he knows nothing about what the hall people do!

People were put on the lists because they knew someone or their family was previous rank. A little nod or hey that's so and so's friend or that's old charlie's neice or that's WHAT THE MAN WANTS. You could study for ever and know every G.O. back and forward and recite it in your sleep but you would never make it to the top of the lists. IT IS AND STILL IS HIS DEPARTMENT. The first several hundred on top of the list are hand picked! So if you actually think you made it on your own, yeah right!

Sit back and think which boss liked the way you worked or and told you, Hey you could make a good Sgt. or Det. some day "Take the test". It could be a very suttle comment or pat on the back! Like I said no one is promoted with out the approval of the Hall! NO ONE! Plain and simple. We had in some cases ten months to over a year before the results were posted and mailed out. During that time, Thats when the phone calls were made or names were proposed! Some made, some dropped!

Iam retiring in a few days, and W.C. Fields said it best their's a sucker born every minute! and Chicago is the biggest sucker of all, You voted him in!

1/17/2009 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If i had no real chance at getting a promotion (seeing that they barely take anyone off the lists) i could see how things could start to get really frustrating and could lead to me having to do other things to make money and such.

1/17/2009 02:28:00 AM



...and if that is what you are like, then you shouldn't be a Police Officer. We don't need people like you.

1/17/2009 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police shooting in 012 by coopers from 009 excuting search warrant. Any info??
Everyone ok??

1/17/2009 02:40:00 AM

Everyone(good guys) ok, scum bag with the gun at county hosp.

1/17/2009 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tact team from 009 exececuted search warrant in 012 and bad guy had a pistol, copper shot him one time in the abdomen. Piece of shit was still in surgery, lots of dope and another gun too! Copper was fine.

1/17/2009 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone expect the "leaders" of this Department to care about promotions being earned off a list when few, if any, of them scored well on a test. That is not in their thought process. Shaking hands and kissing ass is the way to go for them since it has worked.

How does the CPD explain to the rank and file that the three highest ranking officers (Supt, and 2 Asst Sups) have never passed a promotional exam?? Weiss wants transparency. Release the test scores for all exempt staff and show the CPD what a joke the testing process is.

My guess is that 80% of the exempt staff has been merit promoted all the way through, and they then become subject matter experts on future tests. Shamefull.

1/17/2009 08:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everybody always sounds SHOCKED by what's happening in the CPD! Did you all just fall out of the sky? Take it easy! Quit talking about rifles, automatics, SUVs, promotional exams! TUMS is making millions off of you belly achers! The majority of us will never move up in the Dept! Get over it! Life is not fair! Bad things happen to good people! Enjoy the job! Think positive!

1/17/2009 08:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And less people paying into the pension.... This is all being done by design.

As for closing Districts, shut down 003,004,006,and 007. Declare it a "no-mans" land and withdraw police to areas where they are needed and appreciated.

1/17/2009 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It sickens me to read all the complaints from you drunken boobs about fine city. Mayor Daley and Maggie are two of the finest people God ever put on this Earth.If any of you amadons were half the police officer my soninlaw Tim Quinn is then maybe you could move up in life. He risks his life every day protecting them. Try spending a little more time in the library instead of the tavern.

Tim's Mother inlaw

1/17/2009 09:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two sgt classes off the current list, 1st class 50, 2nd class 75.

1/17/2009 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shooting in 12. UPDATE. Important people ok.... shithead gut shot. He'll get paid... He tried to fire on P.O. his gun jammed. P.O. Fired once. Second round fired and P.O.'s gun jammed. REMEMBER CLEAN YOUR WEAPONS!

1/17/2009 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

all coppers ok.. 2 guns 2 kilos recoverd, and over 5000 and one asshole whose wearing a bag for the rest of his life

1/17/2009 09:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

True, but they're hiring the best of the best. We'll be fine.

1/17/2009 09:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And 69 legit det's off the list.

it doesn't matter if they are legit or merit, cpd has the worst detectives in the U.S., especially A/1..a few old timers left that know the ins/out, the rest are garbage...here's a clue, putting out an alert on every single person because you're too lazy to go do some actual foot work is not good detective work...and for any new detectives, go buy a few good suits, dockers & your catholic high school knit tie make you look like a fool...

1/17/2009 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
OT:
Does anyone else think Blago is the Drew Peterson of the political world? This jag bag just seems like he is enjoying all of the attention.
I just pray the outcome for Rod is different!

1/17/2009 01:12:00 AM


Any chance Rod could bring down Richie before he goes to jail?

I realize how crazy this sounds, but I think Blago has too much honor than to flip and inform on Daley... besides, DALEY AND HIS DEN OF THIEVES could not allow that to happen! Blago would be made to disappear somehow, right under Patrick Fitzgeralds nose.

POOOF! HE GONE!!!

1/17/2009 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was a good comment on a previous thread saying that when coppers don't feel that they can actually make promotions the legit way it makes them turn to different, maybe less legit ways to earn more money, etc..
If i had no real chance at getting a promotion (seeing that they barely take anyone off the lists) i could see how things could start to get really frustrating and could lead to me having to do other things to make money and such.

TRUE, PROVEN FACT. ANY GOOD ORGANIZATION HAS ALL TYPES OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR PROMOTION...CPD HAS FALLEN WAY BEHIND..

1/17/2009 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YOU FORGOT 9 CAPTAINS & 40 LT'S...FOR 2009 ACCORDING TO PAX 501

1/17/2009 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

REGARDING PROMOTIONS: I NOTICED IN THE LETHAL WEAPON MOVIES (MEL GIBSON AND DANNY GLOVER)WERE ALWAYS GETTING PROMOTED AND I NEVER NOTICED THEM TAKING ANY ( "ERNST , YOUNG, AND DALEY TESTS") HHMMMMMM

1/17/2009 10:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

read the lts assn site.
good info in it and workers can use it.
keep your mental skills up to par

1/17/2009 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OW Wilson came to chgo to turn corruption around after the summerdale scan.

first rule of business:
promote over 300 sgts.

new equip, cars, uniforms etc.

zero tolerance as a result.

it worked.

1/17/2009 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard 22 LTs in March

1/17/2009 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Toddler's relative, Donna Dunning, gives the finger to another county employee while in her official capacity as budget director, at the beginning of a governmental budget meeting. AND "doesn't care what people think of it."

Isn't that sweet? Has it actually come to this? This is someone who represents me, my interests and my taxes.

Lovely, just lovely.

1/17/2009 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don't one of you investigative reporters ask where the money is going? We are short in every rank the department has, well except exempt, but the money is still being set aside.
For example know one would argure that for the last two years we are down a minimum of 1,000 P/o's. With a starting salary of 40,000 that is $40,000 X 1,000=40,000,000. Know that is just one year, and probably a conservative estimate.
How can we have such shit equipment with all this surplus from lack manpower?
Come on you ball less reporters who are afraid to take on Mayor Daley, now is the time to step up!!!!!!

1/17/2009 10:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Word out that there was mutiny on the Bounty in 017. Anyone know anythin

Well you reap what you sew Mr Mealer.

Co Mealer made a traffic stop in 017. He asked for a car. The radio was dead silent. Now you see what treating your troops like crap gets you.

No one would respond or come up to volunteer. Yea its wrong but Mealer is writing up/harassing coppers for every little nonsense thing he can. I mean petty crap that makes big bird a saint.

He brings a new hieght to micro managing and an all time low to 017. He is our black cloud.

Mealer then calls for a SGt and begins to mother fuck the Sgt on scene wanting to know why nobody backed him up. Valid question but just handled all wrong.

Kind of how Mealer handled the 017 Christmas party making racial jokes about asian people eating dogs and jewish people eating pork. But when your jewish and IAD to boot I guess its ok right Commander? I wont even go into the other humor he displayed on an open micraphone.

So now Mealer states that he will really play hard ball. No breaks. Like he has been supporting his troops all along. NOT!

I like how he comes to our roll calls threatening us that if we dont start producing numbers he is going to spar us. Let me say this Mr Mealer Commander guy. Please do so, you make us all rich.

Here is what I suggest to the troops. Let him spar us for our activity. Last I knew there was no G/O stating we had to write tickets and parkers. Second of all sign off on the spar and take the time he gives us. Greive it and get a class action law suit on Mr Mealer the Laywer/Commander and the department. Lets get it on Mealer.

Lastly....he is going to demand a to/from from all of us on duty that night when he called for backup. Simply state on your to/from...

R/O DOES NOT RECALL! If you put down something he can trace w/ GPS and catches you in a lie he will jam you. And waste lots of time writng it up while your down in the station.

Anybody can be a boss Mealer. But a true leader knows how to lead and doesnt have an over blown ego like yours. You catch more flies with honey. We all know your the commander...you just dont know how to be one. Let the games begin.

1/17/2009 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When more cops get killed, we all know whos ass it is to string up!

1/17/2009 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
...What's the point in even studying for these things if they barely promote anyone.

1/17/2009 01:45:00 AM

Of course, the obvious answer is that if you are unclouted, its THE ONLY WAY to move up.

Another, is that each and every time you read or study something, anything, pertaining to our profession, you make yourself a better PO, D-2, Sgt., Lt, Capt., Exempt, etc. etc. etc... You become inherently more knowledgeable, helpful and valuable to yourself, to your fellow officers and to the citizens. Sorry to sound corny but no one is going to look out for US other than US.

1/17/2009 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

will the new boss close any districts and assign sergeants to the busy districts . why does 19 , 20 have more sergeants than the working districts like 11 and 15
cpd needs more sergeants not exempts

1/17/2009 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What happen to that great new Chicago Cop.com website. It has been down for a while now.

1/17/2009 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crime is going through the roof because the current cops are just sitting on their hands. Why hire more? Start making this job like those in the private sector. If you don't work you're fired.

1/17/2009 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If i had no real chance at getting a promotion (seeing that they barely take anyone off the lists) i could see how things could start to get really frustrating and could lead to me having to do other things to make money and such.
---------------
didn't you ever learn about right and wrong? it would be wrong to do "other" things (a la SOS).

1/17/2009 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FAX came out about applications for Captain. I guess that is the kind of promotion that's important enough to get actual action from this department.
Now every LT will start pimping out their mother to get this spot and when they don't get it, will be nastier to the working po-po.
Nothing ever changes, hey new cappies - good luck motivating the police with increased meaningless discipline for minor perceived infractions. Always worked in the past, right Boy-O?

1/17/2009 11:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
More chiefs no more indians typical city bullshit! Why is there a girl at the airport making d-2 pay,while she would better utilized with that high pay rate somewhere else? "Pay to play" lives! Again clout rules as usual!

1/17/2009 05:07:00 AM

Naw she has to much clout has a big vacation home next to the former airport commander patton and he keeps he there! That is all1

1/17/2009 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

heard someone in 017 had a tantrum
what happened?

1/17/2009 11:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
...Perhaps Patrick Fitzgerald should press him to give information on the CORRUPT promotional exam process of the CPD and see just who orders those to be made meritorious.
We should contact him:...
Patrick Fitzgerald
TELEPHONE:(312)353-5300

1/17/2009 02:02:00 AM


GOOD IDEA!!! BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT PATRICK FITZGERALD's MAIN CONCERN IN THIS WHOLE INVESTIGATION!!!

I admire YOUR PASSION for your priority, but I seriously question YOUR SANITY if you think anyone, but a small number of people in the CPD, GIVES A FLYING F*CKING RATS ASS about your promotional exam process. I'M JUST SAYIN!!!

1/17/2009 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was a good comment on a previous thread saying that when coppers don't feel that they can actually make promotions the legit way it makes them turn to different, maybe less legit ways to earn more money, etc..
If i had no real chance at getting a promotion (seeing that they barely take anyone off the lists) i could see how things could start to get really frustrating and could lead to me having to do other things to make money and such.

1/17/2009 02:28:00
Fuck You Jagoff. You better go back to your job at Wendy's before you end up in the MCC with the others who thought like you. I worked this job and 2 part-time jobs to make my money. I also went to school on the cities dime and use my degree to make more money on a better part time job. I have a family, kids, a mortgage, and all the things everyone else has. If you think they're going to be paid while your locked up, good thinking. Ask around and see how much those fund raisers make for thieves. No one goes. We're busy working. By the way.. I spent some of my hard earned money on study classes and spent a great deal of time going over the material, some of it 3 and 4 times. I'll make it this year. Am I pissed that there are people that had it given to them? Yes. Am I pissed that I should have been made 2 years ago, yes. Will I have to go through that sacrifice again to make Sgt.? No.

1/17/2009 11:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Letters went out for a recruit class in March.

1/17/2009 11:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1383607,CST-NWS-dish18.article

Wouldn't the city's legal department know that the tax was illegal BEFORE they requested the satellite dish companies to hand over subscriber names and addresses in violation of FEDERAL law?

Unbelievable. The Daley machine acts like the fucking mafia.

1/17/2009 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Word out that there was mutiny on the Bounty in 017. Anyone know anything?

1/17/2009 01:22:00 AM

******************************

Yes

What happend was we were doing a Curfew Mission at the 711 on California. Then we were assigned a Theft from Auto mission from some Sgt. then when we were bogged down during this confusion we were pulled into a STOP mission. After spazzing out on the zone from my stress I was immediately given an SOP mission for Robbery!!!!! WTF

I then stated forget it and I went down on a Burglary mission and after clearing I went into a Robbery mission all in one shift....I was spent and ready to hit the medical while the bosses were warm and cozy in the office laughing. Lunch????With all these intense missions going on I couldn't get it!! I want FOP to move in here and confront our medieval bosses in 017!!! I am overwhelmed and then when I expressed my concern once again on the zone.....THEY PUT ME ON A SNOW TOW TICKET MISSION on Kedzie!

I snapped and want everyone to know I am only HUMAN!

017 1st watch Raider....

1/17/2009 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I guess no written exam this year either? SCC that means by NOV we will be going on 3 years with out this department having 1 written exam! What a joke!!!

1/17/2009 03:31:00 AM
_____________________________________

A few friends and I took the test in June of 06. We passed all the tests and were told to prepare to take the power test again soon; as we'd be on within 6 months. This was January of last year. I don't know how many people passed all of the screenings; my investigator would only tell me that it cut a lot of people off the list. I'd imagine there are more than 200 left though, maybe near 500-700. With that in mind and the fact that they’ve put the guys from the later months through the psychological, power and drug tests last year I’d bet there will be no new testing this year.

1/17/2009 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Why bother?

1/17/2009 02:31:00 AM


Years ago, I remember standing in line with hundreds of other Sergeants early on a Saturday morning waiting to be admitted to a Lieutenants promotional exam. I figured, like a lot of others standing with me, that I was wasting my time here, "unclouted" and hoping for promotion. I said it out loud, and wondered why I was even bothering.

A Sergeant directly in front of me in line turned around to me and said "The reason we do it, is because you never know... On your way home from this exam, you may come across a crash on the highway and save someones life, and afterwards find out that persons' last name is Daley".

Obviously, the point is that just because you are "unclouted" today does not mean you will remain so.
Another hope is that your friend/s will become "clouted". These things do happen, and anyone who is able to make that leap, always wants to surround themselves with friends that they can trust.

I never made Lt... in fact they tore down the list while I was standing at #1, and they gave a new exam. My promotion went to someone who "merited" becoming a Lt. Theres a story behind that as well that I won't go into, other than to say that as far as the Dept was concerned, I "merited" NOT getting promoted. Good Luck!

1/17/2009 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Commander Mealer in 017 asked for a car on a traffic stop and no one responded...the dispatcher kept asking if anyone could stop by 1700's traffic stop and there was radio silence

1/17/2009 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I guess no written exam this year either?
SCC that means by NOV we will be going on 3 years with out this department having 1 written exam! What a joke!!!

1/17/2009 03:31:00 AM

DUDE! I came on this job in Feb '78...

I made Sergeant on the first day that I could possibly be promoted...

That promotion came in Dec '88, nearly ELEVEN YEARS LATER!!!

Its difficult to feel sorry for someone who doesn't know what this City USED TO DO TO US BEFORE we had a Union!!!

GET A GRIP ON YOURSELF!!!!!!!!

1/17/2009 12:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just for yuks...
Go back over the last 5 years of promotions for Sgt. and Det. Count the merit and legit promos. See how many came from Patrol and I don't mean assigned to patrol but detailed to a unit.

You'll fucking tear your hair out!

1/17/2009 01:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever happened to J-Fed's previous PAX 501 where he states "you can nominate yourself for a merit spot;" not like it would matter anyway.

1/17/2009 01:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Merit sucks and the clouted always get promoted, but so do a few that did good on the test (me.) with no help from the "Subject matter experts." Stop bitching. For those of us that have been waiting for 2 years for them to do this, this is good news. You can't have it both ways. You can't bitch that they haven't promoted anybody for 2 years, then bitch when they say they are going to.
I'm happy, but won't feel confident until I am working midnights in the ghetto again!

1/17/2009 01:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every Day after Roll Call Go Get Your Coffee. Answer Your Radio Assignments with Proper Dispatch.
Enforce Whatever Laws are Broken.
Respond to all All Calls in Your Vicinity. 10-1' of course, if anyone does not, they should not be on the job. Drive by other officers radio assignments, if appropriate, ask if they need a hand, such as transports, write up a tow, or whatever. Have a Great Lunch. View all Females or Males in your sector. That's Important. Be Courtesy to all, and kind to those that deserve it.
Do Not Upset Yourselves with this other BS. There is nothing you can do about it.
PS I did 32 yrs on the job, doing this, and it worked for me.

1/17/2009 01:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why would anyone in their right mind want to join CPD ?

extreme high cost of living.

can't be the police.

questionable pension.

small chance of legit advancement.

poor training.

Chicago has become one of the worst places to be the police.

1/17/2009 01:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Love this blog. A third of the bloggers are complaining they are making promotions, a third that they are not promoting fast enough, and the last third that there are no tests planned. Take a look at the economy and be glad you have a job.

1/17/2009 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
More chiefs no more indians typical city bullshit! Why is there a girl at the airport making d-2 pay,while she would better utilized with that high pay rate somewhere else? "Pay to play" lives! Again clout rules as usual!

1/17/2009 05:07:00 AM

Well, as most of us know, eileen is protected by her shaky ass sgt ewalt. gel-head and no balls.

1/17/2009 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the purpose anymore, the law protects the criminals, and we are looked at to the preformance of bringing in numbers (with no support or equipment), which means more complaints. Stick to being a preliminary investigator, and drop the rest for the county and state morons to follow (not)through. Protect your home and family, give the liberals what they want ......nothing but a report.

PO Dinky Doo

1/17/2009 03:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats the idea this mayor wants us to do more with less. The department will stand at 8,500 strong by 2010 THAT IS A FACT. They will close 2 Districts and that will be the excuse for only having 8,500.

1/17/2009 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We will not get a contract until after they announce if we are getting the olympics or not.

1/17/2009 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The message from the Supt (Weis) had "officer safety is an upmost importance to me". Are you fucking kidding me. We're short several thousands cops already and by the end of 2009 we'll be short I'll bet about 750 more. Back logs in every district on every watch each and every day. officers getting hurt and killed on the rise. crime on the rise. homicide rate through the roof but Jody says his main priority is officer safety. What a fucking idiot. Seems like Daley hired a schmuck in his mirror image. Both of these idiots can go fuck themselves.

No working copy machines, fax machines down, phone lines always acting up, no working pdt's, problems with our radios, no pool cars, shitty rust bucket squads, giant pot holes in the station lots go unfixed, snow not plowed in the station lots, no security in the station, the list goes on and on.

Sound familiar. Just like when Daley just spent all those millions to redue the Michigan Avenue bridge. He says its for public safety when in fact its to pretty it up for the Olympics that none of us want in Chicago and for an Olympics we're not even guarenteed of getting.

When the Olympic commitee is scheduled to come to Chicago, we should all march downtown and on the lake front.

1/17/2009 03:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Obama echoes Lincoln on train tour". The guy hasn't done a damn thing yet and already he's Lincoln!
Yeah, the media is gonna be all over his fuck ups just like Bush, right? This guy could accidentally blow up the western half of the U.S. and the main stream media wouldn't raise an eyebrow.
I love the fact that this machine thief gets on the air and tells us what we "must do" to save the economy? How the fuck does he know? He has no financial background, never ran a business, was a proponent of loans for mutts with poor credit, ran his campaign on crooked cash and never even acquired a legit mortgage.

1/17/2009 04:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, they are now accepting apps for Cpts.

1/17/2009 04:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perhaps Patrick Fitzgerald should press him to give information on the CORRUPT promotional exam process of the CPD and see just who orders those to be made meritorious.

We should contact him:

Patrick Fitzgerald
219 S. Dearborn Street
Fifth Floor
Chicago, IL 60604
TELEPHONE:(312)353-5300

1/17/2009 02:02:00 AM

-----------------------------------
I feel your pain, I really do. take a step back and look at your post. Our promotional debacle is the least of the U.S. attorney's worries. The only people that give a fuck about this issue is the rank and file. Any change will be wrought from internal pressure.

1/17/2009 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jody Weis is a goddamn liar. He rounded up blue shirted police officers early on last year, told us a bunch of shit and then did none of it. Except for getting Cozzi indicted he has done very little he promised to do. Oh, he promised to buy Tahoes. I heard he did that but I have yet to see one.

He told us a bunch of shit at his town hall meetings. I wouldn't trust him if he told me it was daytime outside. I would seek a second opinion.

1/17/2009 04:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
merit promotions lead to bosses such as this

I’m the LT who knows is all
When in doubt my clout I’ll call
So long, farewell, we’re glad you’re through
Now police work once more we’ll do

Your leadership the worst by far
That I’ve seen since I earned my star
In patrol you never did fit
The entire watch called you idiot

Approve our arrest is all we desire
Not your screeching like your hair’s on fire
Outside units also knew
The pain of enduring your arrest review

Cuase you sucked some bosses balls
Your merit promotion has doomed us all
Mystified we all are
Who you blew to get your bar

Nonsense and useless your orders were each day
But for your politics the blue shirts pay
The girls on Madison work harder than you
As for police work they have more of a clue

Even the newest popo knows
When repeatedly kicked the window blows
So here’s hoping your career will tank
Then all patrol will give their thanks

To laugh and point is so mean
So condolences we send to 214

1/16/2009 07:43:00 PM



WHO IS THIS PERSON AND WHERE ARE THEY FROM?

1/17/2009 05:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mutiny On The Bounty In 017?

Yes, there is.
Apparently Cmmdr. Groucho did a traffic stop and called for an assist.
4 times!
And no one showed up.
The 5th time he called for a Sgt. and when the Sgt. showed up; he chewed him a new one.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever hoid.

1/17/2009 05:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember it's all legit..lol

1/17/2009 05:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Anyone hear of a lawsuit involving two coppers that were sued for unlawful arrest? Supposedly, they arresested an individual for DOPW. At court it was determined that there was no evidence to support the charge and subsequently the case was SOL'ed. I guess since they didn't inventory the can of beer, it was thought that they put the case on defendant. Apparently, they were sued, along with the city, and the defendant was awarded money. As a result you now need to inventory can/bottle as eveidence. TRUE OR URBAN LEGEND?
****************************
Can anyone cite the case law? I'm calling urban legend on this!

1/17/2009 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are the 35 D-2 spots?

1/17/2009 06:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once upon a time you could take this job knowing that there were opportunities for advancement. One could scream and yell about the meritorious promotions but you at least knew that you could study hard and get promoted on the 70 per cent and no one could take that from you. Its extremely sad that they seem to have taken that from us as well. I see no greater morale killer FOR WORKING POLICE than eliminating the opportunity to succeed. Many have studied hard and overcome obstacles in order to pass the exams where merit was not an issue. The City should recognize the long term damage it is inflicting on itself by the lack of promotions. That being said those officers who are new to the job need to realize that officers are much younger and that once the detectives, sergeants, and upper management positions are filled it will be many years until these spots open up again. In future years promotional opportunities will be less likely. It would benefit you to forget about what you cannot control and concentrate on what you can...study and get a high score. Do your part and thats the best we can do.

1/17/2009 06:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was a good comment on a previous thread saying that when coppers don't feel that they can actually make promotions the legit way it makes them turn to different, maybe less legit ways to earn more money, etc..
If i had no real chance at getting a promotion (seeing that they barely take anyone off the lists) i could see how things could start to get really frustrating and could lead to me having to do other things to make money and such.

You have shown your real stripes. I hope you never get promoted. Show some intergrity

1/17/2009 06:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd love to get all exicted about a promotional exam if I could just find a way into one of those 'secret' study groups...

1/17/2009 06:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can anyone tell me if there is a test on the CPD that is legitimate? Please explain so others can rebuttal. The question is rhetorical in nature. I think we all know the answer.

1/17/2009 06:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What did you Expect with Inmates running the Asylum????

1/17/2009 06:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get your pay- To -Play bucks Ready for your Alderman or other Chinaman now, and the more you got, the closer to the Front of the Line you get. It's just like getting better seats at a Show in Vegas. Ya just Duke the Matre Di, or the Consigliare. Pay -to-Play, it ain't TOO much like discrimination now, is it???????

1/17/2009 06:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need raises in the 6 to 8% Range just to keep up with these raging Lunatic Politicians in Chicago/Crook County, and their Maniacal Tax Scams. This percentage will not even put us ahead, for that we need about 10%, but they'd just steal it back from us anyway.

1/17/2009 06:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O.T.
Someone in 007 get a SPAR for no activity?

1/17/2009 07:56:00 PM  
Blogger sharky said...

The packets for application to Captain are available for pickup at Operations Command, for any interested Lieutenants. It is the exact same application, right down to the forms, except they have a CD ROM instead of a 5 inch floppy disk like the last time if you wish to submit an electronic application.

1/17/2009 08:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The CORK SOAKERS skit with Janet Jackson in on the rerun of SNL tonight.

Hysterical.

1/17/2009 08:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A guy in charge of the IRS who forgot to pay his taxes? Hmmmmm?

1/17/2009 08:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
OT: Anyone hear of a lawsuit involving two coppers that were sued for unlawful arrest? Supposedly, they arresested an individual for DOPW. At court it was determined that there was no evidence to support the charge and subsequently the case was SOL'ed. I guess since they didn't inventory the can of beer, it was thought that they put the case on defendant. Apparently, they were sued, along with the city, and the defendant was awarded money. As a result you now need to inventory can/bottle as eveidence. TRUE OR URBAN LEGEND?
****************************
Can anyone cite the case law? I'm calling urban legend on this!

1/17/2009 05:46:00 PM

Are you SERIOUS??? Cite case law for a POS getting paid by the city? You been smoking the shit again??? We told you to stay out of it!

And YES, you can and will get sued and he/she will get paid. 006th District PO's got sued for just what you described. So, if you lock them up for DOPW, inventory the bottle.

1/17/2009 09:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mutiny On The Bounty In 017?

Yes, there is.
Apparently Cmmdr. Groucho did a traffic stop and called for an assist.
4 times!
And no one showed up.
1/17/2009 05:33:00 PM

****************************************************

You reap what you sow!
CMNDR Meathead 017

1/17/2009 10:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

here's a clue, putting out an alert on every single person because you're too lazy to go do some actual foot work is not good detective work...and for any new detectives, go buy a few good suits, dockers & your catholic high school knit tie make you look like a fool...

1/17/2009 09:55:00 AM

No doubt there are working detectives and lazy detectives out there. Just so you know, the detective supervisors insist the detectives issue investigative alerts and move on to the next case. Lots of detectives want to hold onto the investigation and put the cuffs on the bad guy themselves, but are told to issue the alert because it makes the units stats look better. And before you know it, the same supervisor starts yelling at the same detective bitchin that they aren't making any arrests. It is fudged up everywhere in this department.

1/17/2009 10:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Legit tests? EVen when the dic exam was once thought legit, the only part that appeared to be legit was the written test when you walked out of the exam with your test score. However, there were still people who had the test prior to the exam.

The second part of the dic exam was an oral interview conducted by sergeants that most usually had the opportunity to make sure you got interviewed by the sergeants you knew.

Then you also had Townsend's preselected list given to the sergeants so they knew to pass those on the list no matter what.

To answer your question, no its never been legit.

1/17/2009 11:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As soon as any of you on this blog are promoted you will immediately sever yourself from this blog unless it is to expound on how much smarter you are since you put on a sportcoat and tie or a white shirt and gold hat! You will immediately shit on all of us! This it a fact! Quit your crying!

1/17/2009 11:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But when your jewish and IAD to boot I guess its ok right Commander?
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Mealer is NOT Jewish.

1/17/2009 11:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Obama echoes Lincoln on train tour". The guy hasn't done a damn thing yet and already he's Lincoln!
Yeah, the media is gonna be all over his fuck ups just like Bush, right? This guy could accidentally blow up the western half of the U.S. and the main stream media wouldn't raise an eyebrow.
I love the fact that this machine thief gets on the air and tells us what we "must do" to save the economy? How the fuck does he know? He has no financial background, never ran a business, was a proponent of loans for mutts with poor credit, ran his campaign on crooked cash and never even acquired a legit mortgage.

1/17/2009 04:08:00 PM

CRY BABY!!! You unclouted, unmerited clowns are just jealous!

1/17/2009 11:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sharky said...
The packets for application to Captain are available for pickup at Operations Command, for any interested Lieutenants. It is the exact same application, right down to the forms, except they have a CD ROM instead of a 5 inch floppy disk like the last time if you wish to submit an electronic application.

1/17/2009 08:06:00 PM
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You also have to sign a form allowing the Department to run a credit check on you.

1/17/2009 11:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All it really boils down to is this,.....another group of motherf#ckers being promoted that's just gonna make my life that much harder. I need another boss like I need a study guide for the whiz quiz.

GCG

1/17/2009 11:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Can anyone tell me if there is a test on the CPD that is legitimate? Please explain so others can rebuttal. The question is rhetorical in nature. I think we all know the answer.

1/17/2009 06:38:00 PM


The piss test.

1/17/2009 11:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Years ago I became a insider down at the Hall (as we call it) and if any of you Po's or Sgt's, Lt's actually think you made ANY type of promotion list legally, brother I got a bridge to sell you!

When the results came back to the Hall from the testing company we would make certian criteria requirements to change the test scores to promote who we wanted or needed, weather it be psycholigical, physical or educational or racial it did not matter we changed or rigged the results plain and simple accordingly to the fifth floor! Remember he knows nothing about what the hall people do!

People were put on the lists because they knew someone or their family was previous rank. A little nod or hey that's so and so's friend or that's old charlie's neice or that's WHAT THE MAN WANTS. You could study for ever and know every G.O. back and forward and recite it in your sleep but you would never make it to the top of the lists. IT IS AND STILL IS HIS DEPARTMENT. The first several hundred on top of the list are hand picked! So if you actually think you made it on your own, yeah right!

Sit back and think which boss liked the way you worked or and told you, Hey you could make a good Sgt. or Det. some day "Take the test". It could be a very suttle comment or pat on the back! Like I said no one is promoted with out the approval of the Hall! NO ONE! Plain and simple. We had in some cases ten months to over a year before the results were posted and mailed out. During that time, Thats when the phone calls were made or names were proposed! Some made, some dropped!

Iam retiring in a few days, and W.C. Fields said it best their's a sucker born every minute! and Chicago is the biggest sucker of all, You voted him in!

1/17/2009 07:57:00 AM



Oh yeah? Why don't you trot on over to the Federal Building and have a chat with some assistant US Attorney about this shit. It is true of course, right?
You can back it up too.

1/17/2009 11:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Letters went out for a recruit class in March.

1/17/2009 11:53:00 AM

Doubt it.

1/18/2009 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mealer is involved in the Christien police officers assoc. Not Jewish.

1/18/2009 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You have shown your real stripes. I hope you never get promoted. Show some intergrity

1/17/2009 06:08:00 PM"


So, if he hadn't been honest enough to 'show (his) real stripes', you'd be hoping he gets promoted?

1/18/2009 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"1/17/2009 11:32:00 AM"


One never knows where a thread will lead.

1/18/2009 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Crime is going through the roof because the current cops are just sitting on their hands. Why hire more? Start making this job like those in the private sector. If you don't work you're fired.

1/17/2009 10:59:00 AM"


Brilliant idea.

Let's start with every other city department, including where you 'work'.

And let's do this from the top down, just like it should be done in the 'private sector'.


The only down side to your idea is that you will, without a doubt, be one of the first ones fired.

1/18/2009 01:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Officer "X" said...

True, but they're hiring the best of the best. We'll be fine.

1/17/2009 09:46:00 AM"



Sweet.

Sarcasm AND silliness, in under 20 words.

1/18/2009 01:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
O.T.
Someone in 007 get a SPAR for no activity?

1/17/2009 07:56:00 PM

Good probability it's kulbida doing the sparing for not drinking with him.

1/18/2009 01:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"As for closing Districts, shut down 003,004,006,and 007. Declare it a "no-mans" land and withdraw police to areas where they are needed and appreciated.

1/17/2009 09:08:00 AM"


Is that you, Plissken?

1/18/2009 01:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Get your pay- To -Play bucks Ready for your Alderman or other Chinaman now, and the more you got, the closer to the Front of the Line you get. It's just like getting better seats at a Show in Vegas. Ya just Duke the Matre Di, or the Consigliare. Pay -to-Play, it ain't TOO much like discrimination now, is it???????

1/17/2009 06:46:00 PM

Years ago I was qouted 10K by an alderscum. When I did the math I learned it was not worth it.

1/18/2009 01:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

True, but they're hiring the best of the best. We'll be fine.

1/17/2009 09:46:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And 69 legit det's off the list.

it doesn't matter if they are legit or merit, cpd has the worst detectives in the U.S., especially A/1..a few old timers left that know the ins/out, the rest are garbage...here's a clue, putting out an alert on every single person because you're too lazy to go do some actual foot work is not good detective work...and for any new detectives, go buy a few good suits, dockers & your catholic high school knit tie make you look like a fool...

1/17/2009 09:55:00 AM
Amen! Signed a Detective

1/18/2009 01:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...and if that is what you are like, then you shouldn't be a Police Officer. We don't need people like you.

1/17/2009 08:02:00 AM"


What's the big deal, he's just following the mayor's example.

1/18/2009 02:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic: 5 openings in 022. The bosses here are pretty good. Midnights are really starting to hustle and have really great sergeants.

1/18/2009 02:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Many of us recall that tests used to be given sometimes every 6 years or more. So quick belly aching about tests being given more often. Wait your turn and gain some experience and knowledge during that time. Having tests often has only proven to be a failure, because it clearly shows how inexperienced our current supervision is.

1/18/2009 02:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unbelievable. The Daley machine acts like the fucking mafia.
------------
The DALEY machine is RUN by the mafia....where've you been???

1/18/2009 05:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More chiefs no more indians typical city bullshit! Why is there a girl at the airport making d-2 pay,while she would better utilized with that high pay rate somewhere else? "Pay to play" lives! Again clout rules as usual!
1/17/2009 05:07:00 AM
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Pay to Play at it's finest:
Well, that Administrative Manager, A. C-H. that works (I use the termn loosely) at the Academy has probably shown up for work less days than Michelle Obama.
Perhaps some crack media person or some crack IAD investigator or some crack Inspector General investigator wants to look into what time she shows up, what time she leaves and the number of days she is actually at work.
I bet less than 20 hours a week, yet she will tell you she has approval to work from home!
1/15/2009 08:17:00 PM
She works hard from home. The privileged one with connections. Clout rules.
1/15/2009 09:21:00 PM

1/18/2009 06:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Just for yuks...
Go back over the last 5 years of promotions for Sgt. and Det. Count the merit and legit promos. See how many came from Patrol and I don't mean assigned to patrol but detailed to a unit.
You'll fucking tear your hair out!
1/17/2009 01:00:00 PM
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Wanna really tear your hair out . . .
What they do now is, when they know that they are going to be on the list they transfer out of the inside unit to a patrol unit for a period or two. Then it looks like the promotion was made from patrol and not some inside clout unit.

1/18/2009 07:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Am I pissed that there are people that had it given to them? Yes. Am I pissed that I should have been made 2 years ago, yes. Will I have to go through that sacrifice again to make Sgt.? No.

1/17/2009 11:51:00 AM
If you dont like the process, try goin to a union meeting or actually voting in a union election.I know, thats all b.s too......just sit around cryin til you make and then you can go around tellin everyone how the system isnt all b.s and your hard work and long hours or studying got YOU promoted.Better yet, join another department where the system is all legit....

1/18/2009 07:39:00 AM  
Blogger David Snethen said...

I then stated forget it and I went down on a Burglary mission and after clearing I went into a Robbery mission all in one shift....I was spent and ready to hit the medical while the bosses were warm and cozy in the office laughing. Lunch????With all these intense missions going on I couldn't get it!! I want FOP to move in here and confront our medieval bosses in 017!!! I am overwhelmed and then when I expressed my concern once again on the zone.....THEY PUT ME ON A SNOW TOW TICKET MISSION on Kedzie!

I snapped and want everyone to know I am only HUMAN!

017 1st watch Raider....
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I know this wasnt meant as funny but thanks for making me laugh this morning! That was great!

1/18/2009 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

017 Ranger first watch--

I think the only reason you are complaining about your missions is because it was keeping you from your All-Night Sleep Mission.

1/18/2009 09:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"dockers & your catholic high school knit tie make you look like a fool"

You just described 95% of the Dicks in Area 2. Hilarious

1/18/2009 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No Matter who the boss is wherever you work. They can only be as effective and as good of a leader as there top guy. That just happends to be our beloved mayor Daley.

So dont expect anything to change until he is out of office whic couldnt come soon enough!

1/18/2009 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. SouthSide says---

You guys in 017 should be ashamed of yourselves. We have some of the biggest jag-off commanders in the world on the south side. I don't care if it was Commander Burger King, if she called for an assist, I would respond, and respond quickly.

Why? Because despite all the bullshit, she still wears the uniform. So does Mealer. I worked with him in 011 and he was a jerk then, so I don't have any reason to believe that he has changed.

I don't know why I am bothered by this, this just confirms what I have been saying all along, that the north side police are the gurlified police.

1/18/2009 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And 69 legit det's off the list.

it doesn't matter if they are legit or merit, cpd has the worst detectives in the U.S., especially A/1..a few old timers left that know the ins/out, the rest are garbage...here's a clue, putting out an alert on every single person because you're too lazy to go do some actual foot work is not good detective work...and for any new detectives, go buy a few good suits, dockers & your catholic high school knit tie make you look like a fool...

1/17/2009 09:55:00 AM

Detectives today have a completely different job than those old-timers.

Old timers used to hold witnesses, offenders, even victims in an Area until they got to the bottom of a story. It didn't matter how long it took. They could be up there for days, even weeks.

Those days are over.

What the hell is a dick supposed to do in today's police department if a POS witnesses denies seeing anything? Give him a supoena for a GJ? What if he tears it up and never goes? Is there even a penalty for that in Cook Co.?

And how about the constant fucking victim/witness recanting! How many of these mutts are ever charged with perjury or even obstruction? Maybe one or two every five years.

1/18/2009 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"..However, there were still people who had the test prior to the exam..."

Even the sgt test given entirely by an outside agency in 1993- in two parts over two days at Merchandise Mart and one later oral (talk into tape recorder) session ---which sent the "z" score and your ranking to your home.....the first class of 100(?)was a lopsided mix of people who had taken the same exempt-run study classes and true nobodies who did well...and yes, as a now retired sgt oddball nobody who made sgt in that class--its true...and I am eternally gratefully that the dept gave that one semi-legit test.

1/18/2009 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What are the 35 D-2 spots?

1/17/2009 06:02:00 PM"


Position Code 9169: Knob Polisher/Oral Specialist II (Central Control Group)

1/18/2009 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe there are people bragging about not backing someone up. We are supposed to be there for each other. On the southside, we don't have time to worry about who we like and don't like...we back up anyone who calls for an assist. I have had people back me when we didn't like each other and I was happy they were there. You should be embarassed.

1/18/2009 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lol! re: mealer in 017...

just $.02 from someone with a wee bit of time otj...

i can say that i've worked for my share of idiots, incompetents, backstabbers, liars, and a couple of bonafide monsters who had no business whatsoever being the police, let alone being police supervisors & managers. but while composing my thoughts for this thread & recalling all of the nonsense i've seen over the years i can honestly say that i haven't met a "lawyer-visor" on this job yet that gave a shit about the well being of the officers in his/her charge... it's all about the climb to the top and blueshirts/subordinate supervisors are disposable. how many of us have heard these self important asses say and act to the effect of "i became a lawyer to qualify expert in fucking over policemen?" mealer embodies this mindset having learned his chops from the biggest police hater of the current era, charlie williams. (hiya doin' chuck? still in a snit because no one bought into your bullshit? pretty sad when the only thing you could think of to justify your existence on this job was to employ disproportionate sanction against p.o.'s for minor infractions. enjoy retirement you miserable self hating little man).

when little charlie was wrapped in chains & pushed overboard, mealer moaned & cried like the "lawyer-visor" bitch he is... oh yeah, he hates it when you leave a paper trail on him, he's known for berating & motherfucking p.o's in front of their peers so if you must deal with him keep notes. yes, his superiors know he's a clown but if enough p.o's leave a long enough paper trail his superiors will no longer be able to afford him any more protection as they will be accountable for being aware of allowing such abuse of rank & authority to occur & not take corrective action... he ran afoul of the former area chief who gave him a dressing down for his rampant goofyism. maybe someone will take the hide off him and parade him around the square for the other "lawyer-visors" as an object lesson in how not to treat other adults.

1/18/2009 01:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny how the merit sgts. did not make the educational requirement....don't believe it just ask the bragging greek MG who can't stop bragging how he does not have the college to hold his position....but he's not connected....we just don't know to which hack he is connected too.. butt we know where he is connected>>>>>>><<<<<<<<.....
typical play to play>>>>>>>>>

1/18/2009 02:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
More chiefs no more indians typical city bullshit! Why is there a girl at the airport making d-2 pay,while she would better utilized with that high pay rate somewhere else? "Pay to play" lives! Again clout rules as usual!
1/17/2009 05:07:00 AM
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Pay to Play at it's finest:
Well, that Administrative Manager, A. C-H. that works (I use the termn loosely) at the Academy has probably shown up for work less days than Michelle Obama.
Perhaps some crack media person or some crack IAD investigator or some crack Inspector General investigator wants to look into what time she shows up, what time she leaves and the number of days she is actually at work.
I bet less than 20 hours a week, yet she will tell you she has approval to work from home!
1/15/2009 08:17:00 PM
She works hard from home. The privileged one with connections. Clout rules.
1/15/2009 09:21:00 PM

1/18/2009 06:48:00 AM

Naw it will not happen they ahve to much clout! Especially airport girl!

1/18/2009 03:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
True, but they're hiring the best of the best. We'll be fine.

1/17/2009 09:46:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And 69 legit det's off the list.

it doesn't matter if they are legit or merit, cpd has the worst detectives in the U.S., especially A/1..a few old timers left that know the ins/out, the rest are garbage...here's a clue, putting out an alert on every single person because you're too lazy to go do some actual foot work is not good detective work...and for any new detectives, go buy a few good suits, dockers & your catholic high school knit tie make you look like a fool...

1/17/2009 09:55:00 AM
Amen! Signed a Detective

1/18/2009 01:45:00 AM

And they never work 8 hours unless they have o.t.1 majority work a couple hours if that then the sgt covers them must be nice! Come on j-fed put them in uniform and marked cars,would show more police presence! Why not the cars are not undercover everyone knows who they are,and it would be safer for them!

1/18/2009 03:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Get your pay- To -Play bucks Ready for your Alderman or other Chinaman now, and the more you got, the closer to the Front of the Line you get. It's just like getting better seats at a Show in Vegas. Ya just Duke the Matre Di, or the Consigliare. Pay -to-Play, it ain't TOO much like discrimination now, is it???????

1/17/2009 06:46:00 PM

Years ago I was qouted 10K by an alderscum. When I did the math I learned it was not worth it.

1/18/2009 01:40:00 AM

and you have to buy fundraising tickets every year,ask burke and carouthers how that works1

1/18/2009 03:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
What are the 35 D-2 spots?

1/17/2009 06:02:00 PM

ask the girl at midway how she gets d-2 and works in a d-1 only position1

1/18/2009 03:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, you hero's in 017 have a Commander actually making traffic stops and you can't muster the smarts to back him up.

Nice plan morons!

I'm a citywide car and I hear the dead quiet on zone 1 most nights.
You crybabies need to go back to McDonalds where your immense talents would be appreciated.

1/18/2009 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are there tons of unused marked squad cars burried in snow at the 39th St TRU headquarters? Who is in charge of that blunder while under staffed districts still don't have enough cars to their calls.

1/18/2009 06:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is that you, Plissken?

Call me Snake!

1/18/2009 06:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Many of us recall that tests used to be given sometimes every 6 years or more. So quick belly aching about tests being given more often. Wait your turn and gain some experience and knowledge during that time. Having tests often has only proven to be a failure, because it clearly shows how inexperienced our current supervision is.

1/18/2009 02:29:00 AM

I agree 100%!! It is experience and knowledge that makes a good supervisor, not some DEGREE!!!
If the city/dept. wants quality supervisors, then they need to do like they did with the revolvers. Grandfather us in! Whatever you needed to get ON THE JOB (ie:h.s. deploma or g.e.d.)is ALL you need to take promotional exams!!!

1/18/2009 06:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good probability it's kulbida doing the sparing for not drinking with him.


Cpt Kubida,,,,Now there's a real winner

1/18/2009 07:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TRANSPARENCY ACCORDING TO THE PAX 501?

Does that mean 35 new D2 positions? Or is that number less because of past D2 promotions that still havent been raised to D2?

Grievances filed. D2 Positions back to December 2006. Union's position "the city is holding up all D2 promotions due to shakman certifications". Know of 5 D2 promotions. grievances yet to earn raise because of Union ineffectiveness and city not moving.

1/18/2009 07:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Love this blog. A third of the bloggers are complaining they are making promotions, a third that they are not promoting fast enough, and the last third that there are no tests planned. Take a look at the economy and be glad you have a job.

1/17/2009 02:01:00 PM

Fuck you.

---not a cop.

1/18/2009 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unbelievable. The Daley machine acts like the fucking mafia.
------------
The DALEY machine is RUN by the mafia....where've you been???

1/18/2009 05:42:00 AM

I was just sayin', ya know?

HowUdoin'?

1/18/2009 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Mutiny On The Bounty In 017?

Yes, there is.
Apparently Cmmdr. Groucho did a traffic stop and called for an assist.
4 times!
And no one showed up.
1/17/2009 05:33:00 PM
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Hey Borat.......

Not even your "guys from 013 or 015 or wherever" BACKED YOU UP?

Those are supposed to be your BOYS!

I guess they were down on the "MISSIONS"! So they could show the MARS meeting people that 017 is "trying" and the results we aren't getting isn't your/their fault!

A true genius you are!

BACK UP?

Maybe you forgot that YOU closed the DOOR (your own policy!!!!) on the 017th Dist. people and NOW you want back up!

Is that what they do in 013 or the Academy? Fuck ya then expect ya to cater to ya! Call Tobias he'll back ya up.........

Just like old times two 013th Dist./Academy jagbags acting like they know it all together again!

Mealer you are so Soft that you make the Pilsbury Doughboy look like a Hells Angel biker!

Fuckin crescent roll!!!

Go fool JODY with your make believe/Rule 14 stats then shove them up your ass you needle dick Borat fuck!!

Quit dragging this place down it ran fine before you got here and the results were there before you ya drip and would have continued for you if you would have just been a NORMAL friendly boss or just a regular guy or even maybe a MAN for that matter that treats people like men and women and not Academy recruits!

017 Tact

1/18/2009 08:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about posting those who live outside the city? My sgt., who has his very own "take home car" lives outside the city in a south suburb, OP. Doesn't capt CW live outside the city or is that just rumor. Why isn't this being looked at or can we all live outside the city?

signed,
clout

1/18/2009 08:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 017:

Send your Commander to 025 dumping grounds.

1/18/2009 09:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
How about posting those who live outside the city? My sgt., who has his very own "take home car" lives outside the city in a south suburb, OP. Doesn't capt CW live outside the city or is that just rumor. Why isn't this being looked at or can we all live outside the city?

signed,
clout

1/18/2009 08:26:00 PM


Living outside the city is one of the few complaints IAD will take anonymously and without an affidavit and must investigate. If found to be true a CR is generated and appropriate action taken. FYI.

1/18/2009 09:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crime is going through the roof because the current cops are just sitting on their hands. Why hire more? Start making this job like those in the private sector. If you don't work you're fired.

1/17/2009 10:59:00 AM

Define work, goof-in-stein...
The only thing that we are compelled to do is answer radio calls. That's it! It never ceases to amaze me how people will demand activity, then whistle in the dark when the beefs come down. You sir, are a putz...

Now go get your shine box!!

1/18/2009 09:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Obama echoes Lincoln on train tour". The guy hasn't done a damn thing yet and already he's Lincoln!
Yeah, the media is gonna be all over his fuck ups just like Bush, right? This guy could accidentally blow up the western half of the U.S. and the main stream media wouldn't raise an eyebrow.

No, they would blame it on Bush. LOL

1/18/2009 10:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, I will risk life and limb to assist a fellow Copper. However, if you are as much of a douche bag as Groucho or his acolyte Sgt Bazerak I just got a
Handwaver. Sorry, the star doesn't trump being a dickhead! So GFY try being a human being, you don't have to be a prince just professional

1/18/2009 10:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Anyone hear of a lawsuit involving two coppers that were sued for unlawful arrest? Supposedly, they arresested an individual for DOPW. At court it was determined that there was no evidence to support the charge and subsequently the case was SOL'ed. I guess since they didn't inventory the can of beer, it was thought that they put the case on defendant. Apparently, they were sued, along with the city, and the defendant was awarded money. As a result you now need to inventory can/bottle as eveidence. TRUE OR URBAN LEGEND?
****************************
Yes, happened last year, it is mandatory to inventory the booze now...

1/18/2009 10:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Good probability it's kulbida doing the sparing for not drinking with him.


Cpt Kubida,,,,Now there's a real winner

1/18/2009 07:15:00 PM

Fucking Thief!!! Fucking female cop groper. Fucking in my kiss my ring click or I'll make your life miserable. Fucking never been the real po po and thinks he's all that. go shine your bald head and brush your yellow teeth. your breath is horrific dude.

1/18/2009 11:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kudos to the 961 team for the drug seizure in the 012th district. That team should be commended for their actions at the scene. I understand two firearms recovered along with two kilos of cocaine and drug money. Being shot is the least of this mutts worry. Has own people will be gunning for him.

1/19/2009 08:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We talk about laying down like dogs and their are cops that haventt done a F*****G thing since they came on the job. Thank god there are still coppers doing the job with great results. KUDOS to the 009th district tact team on the narcotics bust friday. Glad all is well. And thankyou for making the dog asses on this job look good.

1/19/2009 08:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, happened last year, it is mandatory to inventory the booze now...

1/18/2009 10:37:00 PM

This has got to be a TRU or new gang enforcement 2 year wonder. Where does it say you are required to inventory alcohol on a DOPW arrest???? Can you please cited the DSO OR GO where you got this blessed mandate??? Do me a favor if you are too stupid to know how to do your job please don't do anything, then you won't get sued!!! In the meantime take five minutes during your tour and review department orders concerning arrest procedures.

1/19/2009 01:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And they never work 8 hours unless they have o.t.1 majority work a couple hours if that then the sgt covers them must be nice! Come on j-fed put them in uniform and marked cars,would show more police presence! Why not the cars are not undercover everyone knows who they are,and it would be safer for them!

1/18/2009 03:22:00 PM

Until you're on your 20th work hour and you are still at work hoping to make that family party you are already four hours late for.

Detective today is good for one thing: money. That is if you like being at work.

Today, a CPD dick is a powerless position. Might as well be a newspaper crime reporter.

This job is just boring. Its reports and ASAs and phone calls and messages and listening to shitheads lie to you and standing in shithole apartments begging witnesses to do the right thing and sitting through handwritten statements and inventoring scraps of paper and photos and blah blah blah.

The alternative is to do nothing, which is what many do.

I'd give Det. up in a heartbeat if this department wouldn't screw me over once I did. If you need money, you'll love it, but you'll give up a lot of job satisfaction and a lot of your personal time.

1/19/2009 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Living outside the city is one of the few complaints IAD will take anonymously and without an affidavit and must investigate. If found to be true a CR is generated and appropriate action taken. FYI.

1/18/2009 09:30:00 PM
_______________________________
Close, but no cigar. Before generating a CR#, they give you a chance. If there's no evidence you're outside the city (surveillances), no CR# is initiated. If the allegation has merit (surveillances), a CR is initiated.

1/19/2009 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the OP sgt. is just plain Lucky?

1/20/2009 07:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Close, but no cigar. Before generating a CR#, they give you a chance. If there's no evidence you're outside the city (surveillances), no CR# is initiated. If the allegation has merit (surveillances), a CR is initiated.
WRONG, ANYTME AN ALLEGATION OF MISCONDUCT IS MADE (MISCONDUCT BEING LIVING OUTSIDE THE CITY), A CR# IS GENERATED WITHIN 1 HOUR, THERE'S NO INVESTIGATION W/O THE NUMBER, IF U'RE NOT GUILTY, THEN IT'S UNFOUNDED...THE DEPT. DOES LOOK FOR MERIT BEFORE GETTING A NUMBER, THE NUMBER STARTS THE OFFICAL INVESTIGATION..

1/20/2009 08:34:00 AM  

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