Patrol Numbers
Are you feeling lonely? Have you noticed you seem to have a better choice of seats at Roll Call? Does your back up seem miles away?
You aren't imagining it.
Word has come in from some of our suburban contacts that J-Fed addressed the West Suburban Chiefs of Police meeting this past January. During his speech, he related to the assembled that Chicago had 7,700 officers currently in the Patrol Division.
7,700.
Divided by 25 Districts, that's 308 per. Over 3 Watches. Now factor in the Furloughs, RDO's, IOD's, inside staff, detailed out, etc. You begin to see the problem? Look at your watch sheets. We see three to four cars down every night and those are primary beat cars. Backup is non existent and it's amazing more people haven't been hurt.
You aren't imagining it.
Word has come in from some of our suburban contacts that J-Fed addressed the West Suburban Chiefs of Police meeting this past January. During his speech, he related to the assembled that Chicago had 7,700 officers currently in the Patrol Division.
7,700.
Divided by 25 Districts, that's 308 per. Over 3 Watches. Now factor in the Furloughs, RDO's, IOD's, inside staff, detailed out, etc. You begin to see the problem? Look at your watch sheets. We see three to four cars down every night and those are primary beat cars. Backup is non existent and it's amazing more people haven't been hurt.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
211 Comments:
Yeah that sucks, maybe I'll go hang out here, this place looks familiar doesn't it?
http://copbar.tv/
14,000/2= 7,000
rough numbers average salary after OT uniform etc $75,000 per
sooooo,............1/2 the labor force doing same work
GIMME MY $150,000 per year thats what FOP should put on table
Big time shortage. Both airports are short of POs. Midway is short one sgt..........Midway also has one short lieutenant...Hahhahahahah!
This, above all else, is THE issue. Not to long ago, you would never have seen a Rapid car down. Now, they down most of them. One man cars on midnights are common.
They have plenty of cars for the special units that go to the hot (political) spots, but, they have done it by stripping the regular beat cars.
Joe Citizen - this means you have no Police service for anything. Joe Patrolman - this means you get no backup. Your safety means nothing to this mayor. "Remember Rick Francis" should be a mantra. Policeman's lives mean nothing to Richard Daley.
..."During his speech, he related to the assembled that Chicago had 7,700 officers currently in the Patrol Division."...
Where? Where the fuck do we have 7,700 of anything except for CR's around this place?
Wonder if you got rid of TRU MSF or some of those other units and put them back into district law what the numbers would look like?
That's amazing. Even lower than I thought. This has to get out there somehow. There are more teachers in the city than police officers.
Someone needs to get their hands on an official transcript/minutes summary of that meeting before it magically "disappears".
Having J-Pud's verbatim Freudian-slip-acknowledgement that we are severely under-manned could be a useful leverage tool when the time comes for contract negotiations.
Not to mention it might provide another source of stress and irritation for Shortshanks when/if the Feds decide to pull their thumbs out of their collective ass and inquire as to the whereabouts of the rest of the money budgeted for "13,500" patrol officers.
Is there anybody reading this that has the means of obtaining such documentation from that meeting? Friends, family, associates, etcetera with an "in" with any of the suburban attendees of that meeting?
010 3rd watch hasn't had all the cars up in over a year... 2nd watch has more than half the watch as 2 man cars and they are all up. Go figure?
I thought each district has 4 watches? Is tac and gangs part of patrol? Hell I dont know, I only have 8 years, but at least I can say I have more time on the street the j-fed.... HAHAHA!!!!!!
OT:
Anyone else catch Gov Pat Quinn on chicago tonight? This guy seriously is probablly the most honest politician Illinois has seen since honest abe. If you can catch the interview on line, watch it and you can't help but really like the guy and get behind what he's trying to do... clean up illinois.
017 has 6 one man beat cars tomarrow afternoon. That's on a Tuesday! Wait till summer weekends.
Why doesn't the fop, media, public demand to know the actual count of patrolmen. The fact that the city is trying to get the same amount of work done with 1/3 to 1/2 less officers is scary. I can think of one recent in the line of duty death that 99.9% wouldn't have happened if the guy was working with a partner like we're supposed to.
Our district is 8 straight hours of backlog just about everyday. We just don't have enough manpower to answer all the calls coming in. It's really ridiculous that someone getting "choked out" at a domestic has no help coming for a good half hour. If i were a citizen calling for help and had to deal with our response time i would be livid!!
Proactive.... hahahahahaha
How many cars on 1st and 3rd are running '99?
It's not that complicated, lets all just count our watch sheets. All staff on the sheets, include all iod, med, and ferlough. Then report the #'s here. It'll be a good ballpark.
This is a SHAME on the mayor....
yes there is a,,,,
NATURAL LAW OF RETRIBUTION...
and he will get his due...
If he gets his lace panties
in a bunch (somebody told me,black)
then i'd like to see him in court,
his sweat glands will be workin overtime, i would love to see him go bersek in the court and throw court documents all over the place,
then break down and cry and curl up
in the fetal position, just like that jim baker the tv preacher and
drag hiss ass off, with him sobbing
all the way with the media reporting it all, i hope i live long enough...
This can not go on forever, this is
much to serious and a dangerous situation at best...
this issue has to be drummed into the heads of the media, any one of them, and our politicians, alders,state reps, state sens, govnr us congress, president,business, clergy,community groups, any one who will listen,it has to be done in a big way,some of you younger
ones, you unclouted blues know how to do this stuff on the computer,how about helping yourselves out it might mean your life...if i could i would set a date and meet you all at the memorial and get it goin, but you can...
you guys out there now are always in my prayers and i think well of you as we pass in traffic and give you a nod.. be safe God bless you all...
In addition to the manpower shortage, a area garage person was saying we have lost (Junked) over 1500 cars this year. No new vehicles purchased in 2 years. a couple hundred new vehicles sitting in the new car dealer, just waiting for the city to pay the bill. Ask for youself, I speak with truth!!
You left out all those assigned to districts& detailed out. Same w/ the D Unit each Area has on average 25 Det.s assigned to Areas but are detailed out. Mind you the huge influx of detailing people out & inundating units really gained steam under the Phil Cline era. Before the Clout Clowns start crying about being in Units,THEY NEED TO STOP PLAYING GAMES & ASSIGN THESE PEOPLE TO THE UNITS IN QUESTION SO THE NUMBERS REALLY REFLECT HOW SHORTHANDED PATROL IS.
Absolutely!!!! Back up is HORRIBLE!!!!!! Factor in all the DOGS that don't do shit and your looking at an officer's end of watch.. Someone PLEASE help!
you can only handle one job at a time-- officer safety is the number one priority. back each other up.
that seems like a lawsuit for sure! they are lying to us about the numbers. people have been killed by their lies
Its not just that we don't have as many officers out there, its also the lack of unity at work. When I first came on this job, I never needed to call for backup. Our sector and beat officers drove around like a wolf pack. It was awesome. Now I see that officers are just doing thier own thing and pretty much thinking, oh its nothing, they are fine. What is with the complacency! I understand no one wants to get into a situation where they might get a complaint that may lead to them losing their jobs, but if we present a united front thats usually enough. I am not in a busy district so I try to back up everyone I can. I did not come on this job to be oppressed by non-supportive superiors and faulter in my duties. I love my job and yes I want to keep it, but that does not mean I am not going to do, not only what I am paid for but what I know is right and just. The department gave us tools, God gave us a brain, therefore I will use both to my uttmost advantage.
I guess all I want to say is please back each other up, even if you just drive by.
The truth is coming out very slowly, just be thankful that more PO's haven't been killed because of this manpower crisis.
Richard Francis - RIP
I don't see how there could be 7,000 in patrol. Several dists barely have over 200 assigned to them. Is hqtrs part of patrol? How about TRU? Remember this speech was in Jan. When were the gang teams moved? Gang teams are now part of OCD. OCD is part of the investigative side of the dept.
Chicago is beyond fucked up. I would move if I didn't have a good number on the Sgts test. I know I won't get promoted anyway but its nice to dream. The day the Sgt list goes down and I didn't make it with a number in the 250's is the day I lie die for good.
cooter said for years what the numbers where.See how the FOP and The City lied.Now is the time to picket.We are the only people telling people what to do but not takeing our own advice.So lets go.show the city how bad this summer is going to be.lots of body bags,looooooooooooooooots.
Look at the sheets in 004. Way more than 4 cars down. I suspect many more will be bailing from midnights where the 1st watch former captain turned back into Lt. by J-fed is an absolute moron. Maybe an Inspector can write him for his expired plate and tinted windows parked inside of a police dept garage.
and don't leave out the guys who are pissed at the watch-commander, lieutenant or sergeant who decide to hit the medical.
It's no secret,it has been like this for a while and getting worse.The F.O.P. should be ashamed of themselves for allowing it and to add insult to injury,still no contract for 1/2 the workforce doing twice the work.When I go to work each day I make sure to say goodbye to my family so maybe they will have a memory of me.It's dangerous as ever but DOESN'T HAVE TO BE.
OT:
Anyone else catch Gov Pat Quinn on chicago tonight? This guy seriously is probablly the most honest politician Illinois has seen since honest abe. If you can catch the interview on line, watch it and you can't help but really like the guy and get behind what he's trying to do... clean up illinois.
Careful on that one.....He is still a major player on the Democrats team. Just look at how he backpedaled on having an election to replace Obama. He back pedaled on the Burris appointment. And while Blagoievich is no angel, do you think it was correct to remove him from office without presenting evidence or witnesses? What happened to public elections here?
And dont forget the 50% tax increase that looms right now. No...He's just another politician...
Let's see:
TRU and MSF about 300 people
New GEU has about 300 people
That's 600 poice officers (we're not counting supervisors) divided by the 10 busiest Districts - or, 60 extra people in those Districts. My God! That's a whole watch! Dep. Dugan, I watched your video at Monday's roll call. You're right about getting back to basics. But you needs cops in the Districts to do that. Please bring these back to where they belong. We have enough "elite" people already.
"...Pat Quinn is the most honest Illinois politician ever..."
I remember a guy named Alderman Larry Bloom from the fifth ward who also claimed that title. That was, until he was indicted and imprisoned.
OT:
Anyone else catch Gov Pat Quinn on chicago tonight? This guy seriously is probablly the most honest politician Illinois has seen since honest abe. If you can catch the interview on line, watch it and you can't help but really like the guy and get behind what he's trying to do... clean up illinois.
3/24/2009 01:06:00 AM
Wait a minute. Where the hell has he been for the last several years? Sitting back and watching the Blago corruption and playing along with it. Fu*k Quinn. He's all for himself. Why doesn't he investigate the financial mess and make the politicians be held accountable for overspending and mismanagement?
IF FOP REALLY CARED THEY WOULD HEAVE:
EACH WATCH REP MAKE COPIES OF THE ATTENDANCE SHEET.
SEND IT 2 THE FOP HALL.
ALSO MAKE COPY OF ALL PERSON DETAILED OUT ETC.
IT IS NOT THAT HARD!
IT IS NOT LIKE A COMMANDER DOES ANY OF THAT PAPERWORK HIMSELF AND IT IS LOCKED AWAY.
OT: Read Sun Times. 15,000 Janitors just accepted new contract. Between 3% and 4.5% per year raise. And the City wants to offer us 1% and some crumbs?
NO CONTRACT NO PEACE !!!
In 008, it's pretty bad when you have two PO's assigned to a "wagon", yet they use a beat car instead of a wagon..
Its just too bad they can't screen out the nonsense calls. How about starting with all those crank cell phone calls about men with guns. Or the one's with little Jimmie not listening to momma. Or the one's that are really civil in nature.
Anyone else catch Gov Pat Quinn on chicago tonight? This guy seriously is probablly the most honest politician Illinois has seen since honest abe. If you can catch the interview on line, watch it and you can't help but really like the guy and get behind what he's trying to do... clean up illinois.
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maybe. we will see. I am not holding my breath.
the guy was a crony of dan walker and harold washington, two of the more corrupt politicians to ever disgrace the state of Illinois.
When we have 4 coppers shot and killed in one day and their families scream into the camera that we don't have back up.
NOTHING WILL CHANGE !!
So a big shout out to the MAYOR and all the BOSSES who tow the company line.
" F - C K , Y O - "
Traffic accident with injuries, granny home invaded and knocked on her ass by the fake water meter reader, someone stuck a gun in your mug and got your wallet....you gotta wait. The Police gotta babysit the next "Chicago School" child that got shot.
Not only are there less Police, a lot less, but they have been reassigned to prevent the offenders from shooting each other.
You taxpayers are not newsworthy, so you don't matter. Vote these career politicians out of office.
OT: attention Patrick Fitzgerald, tune in your radio Wednesday morning for this:
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Blagojevich to fill in as WLS radio host
March 24, 2009 8:00 AM
Former Gov. Rod Blagojevich has a new gig -- as a Chicago radio host.
WLS-AM program director Bob Shomper says Blagojevich will be on the air from 7 a.m. to 9 a.m. Wednesday, taking calls from listeners, telling stories and talking with guests.
Shomper says it's a one-time deal in the slot normally filled by the "Don Wade & Roma Morning Show." The regular hosts are off this week.
In January, WLS offered Blagojevich his own weekend radio show if he agreed to resign as governor. Blagojevich didn't take the station up on that offer, and he was later ousted from office by Illinois lawmakers.
Blagojevich faces federal corruption charges that accuse him of attempting to sell President Barack Obama's former U.S. Senate seat, among other things. He denies any wrongdoing.
-- Associated Press
Gov. Quinn "trying to clean up Illinois?" My ass. He's just another life long democrat hack who has always supported his fellow dem. thieves. Now it's his turn at the honey pot.
OK guys its time to buy. Info for the police. Refinance the mortage, take the extra money and place it in a e trade account or sometime similar. Banks, Banks, Banks are making a come back. If they are in good footing now in three weeks they will double the price of the stock.
Area Two Detective
At least the Entertainment Detail is foolie staffed.
Went on the website and didnt find anything about minutes or meetings. Allot of training material and links. Interesting to see who's on what board and their titles. Do they get paid ? I didnt even see an email to request the minutes.I think You need a memeber to request like in the labor uinions. They do have a phone number, might be worth a call.
anyways here's the link
www.ilchiefs.org
THANK YOU TO THE COPS THAT ACTUALLY ROLL AROUND THE WEST END OF 8TH DIST. I KNOW YOU GUYS/GIRLS ARE STUCK ON THE EAST END WITH THE DOGS. PLEASE JUST TAKE A RIDE, I'LL BUY PORTILLO'S ... LOL
THANK YOU !!!
Un-armed-city-worker-target
House in Beat 812
You Little cry babies why should I hire more Police Officers and spend MY money for these ungratefull citizens. For all that I have done for or to this city, INGRATES! That's MY OLYMPIC money!
I am in the middle of a multi-million dollar study of privatizing the Police!
Several Alderman have expressed interest in owning such security companies but my family comes first! they told me they could employ friends and families this way the federal shackman laws do not apply on these or anyother private security companies, We can hire who we want and promote who we want! NO UNIONS!!
I intend to lease most if not all of the city assests to private companies for such long term contracts that my family and their grandchildren will be taken care of for the rest of their lifes! And the good thing about this is you fools keep voting for me! And for thoses fifty Alderman if they can't stay in line I'll crush them to! No Jobs, No Contracts, No Alderman perks! No fat committee budgets!
I am the KING
Now I see that officers are just doing thier own thing and pretty much thinking, oh its nothing, they are fine.
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Too often true, but not always the case. Have you ever heard:
Zone: ##32. See the complainant (or Damage to Property in progress, or burglar alarm sounding, or assault in progress, etc.)
##32: Put it on the box squad. I'm riding on 34's job.
Thanks ##32 for the backup. But while he is doing that, the complainant, DTP, burglar alarm, ar assault victim has to wait. It SHOULD be both ways--backups and prompt police service.
How about it mayor?
to everyone who doesn't back up other PO's on jobs, just think about how your going to feel when some 99 unit is on a domestic/disturbance/ANYTHING and the shit hits the fan (and god forbid a fellow officer gets injured because they had no backup). It makes me absolutely sick when a job comes out and whoever is driving heads the other way. Lets back eachother up whenever we can!
3/24/2009 04:20:00 AM
AMEN OFFICE! Exactly why we can't get shit done anymore. You can't get two coppers to agree on LUNCH, no less a good raise and contract! nothing but "individualists" on the job now. the city did EXACTLY what it wanted to do, "DIVIDE AND CONQUER"! really sad.
Why haven't FOP filed for arbitration yet? Unfortunately, this is contract is obviously gonna have to be settle that way.
Again, where is our FOP president with the exact numbers?! The hall knows how many sworn members there are. It's Donaghue's job to put himself in the press EVERY time the bs numbers are published! He has to do his job! Or is Donaghue just working for the king?! hhhhmmm?
scc,
dont just divide that number by 25 districts. Remember MSF and area SAT and GUN teams are all part of patrol too.
Here's something that the Ivory Tower might want to think about.
It's only a matter of time before a copper is going to be involved in a situation where due to lack of manpower one of several possibilities may occur.
A lack of show of force all too many times, may allow an individual to take another step, that step usually has consequences where an officer may be killed, or one we forget about too many times, an officer is severely injured, sometimes where they have to leave active duty permanently or an officer who believe that his or her life is in danger ends the life of the offender... sad to say it’s going to happen.
So as the idiots in power play their games with manpower and contracts, these are definite possibilities. Maybe those who don't seem to care may look at it in a different light and see the liabilities that are adherent with these policies. Maybe the media will get a sudden burst of old fashion proactive reporting and let the folks hear about it before the lawsuits fly, rather then after disclosure does.
HEY BLOGGERS,since the MAINSTREAM MEDIA won't report this please get this out.We physically are incapable of protecting your neighborhoods.HOLD YOUR ALDERMANS FEET TO THE FIRE,we have 1/2 the people,no cars,useless cameras on every corner and we have had no contract for 2 YEARS! Your hard earned tax dollars are being wasted and your lives are in jeopardy due to political indifference and mismanagement.
Ask for a new company of MSF-ers to be formed.
The private police will be the Evil Dwarfs revenue collectors. The private police contractors will contribute to His Honor's campaign and retirement funds.
And I hope to his criminal defense fund.
3/24/2009 12:07:00 AM
WTF?
The department gave us tools, God gave us a brain,
how many of the cells of that brain did you kill at dugans before writing that crap??? And how did you get home, officer? But I guess if you got a DUI it would be a Jfed railroad job somehow! Get the fuck out of here!
With 20 years almost under my belt I still, to this day, travel toward a possibly "bad" call that another officer gets. "Just in case". I see so many younger officers going the other way. I see the wagon just sitting. Not bothering to go toward that job. Unbeleivable how much things ave changed. The "me" generation, the dogs...JHC come on people. Back each other up.
SO giving the less of us a raise should be no big deal!
"..In addition to the manpower shortage, a area garage person was saying we have lost (Junked) over 1500 cars this year. No new vehicles purchased in 2 years..."
Check your source at the area garage because he has no clue. The entire marked fleet consists of roughly 2000 vehicles. Cars are only "junked" or removed from service when they are totalled, replaced or deemed unrepairable mechanically. Then they are stripped of all useable parts (doors, fenders, lights, etc.) to repair other squad cars with minor damage.
And no new cars in 2 years? Really? Check the build date on the tag on the inside of the front door of the cars or look at the outside number. Our cars use the same 4digit number series starting with 7000 and go up to 9800. Then the numbers are recycled as new cars are purchased. All of the new cars in the districts are Fords with two spotlights and an outside number from approx 7900 up to 8300. They are all 2007 & 08 cars- nearly 400 of them. They were delivered and put into service in late 2007 and spring/summer of last year. They are less than one year old. Cars numbered from 7500-7900 (Fords and Chevys) are 2006 cars. Some didn't enter service until 2007. For the most part, we have a relatively newer fleet of cars. Newer than we've had in a few years. 1994-95 was the last time we had a surge of new vehicles like that where we got almost 1000 new cars in two years.
Here's a novel idea: if the beat cops were to show a little bit of pride in their car and kept it clean during their shift as best as they were able and brought it in for repair when it started to make that funny noise instead of saying, "Screw it. I'm off the next two," then maybe the car would only be down a day or two for a simple brake job instead of 2 months for replacement of the brakes, rotors, calipers, ball joints, idler arms, connecting rods and everything else that has been ignored for the last year.
Lets get another unit out there. The days of police districts are done. 35th keeps making more units and they have forgotten where the real police are. Next boss will have a idea lets put policing back in the districts not units.
that seems like a lawsuit for sure! they are lying to us about the numbers. people have been killed by their lies
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just who is going to sue whom, and over what?
the courts have ruled time and again that government has no obligation whatsoever to protect individual citizens.
cops are under no obligation legally to do much of anything, so in effect anything you do is because you choose to do so.
We have been short on our watch too. Just the beat cars are up..nothing else. Just make sure you wait for your backup on the calls the require you to do so. Put them in a backlog every fucking day until they start hiring some cops.
Anonymous said...
OT:
Anyone else catch Gov Pat Quinn on chicago tonight? This guy seriously is probablly the most honest politician Illinois has seen since honest abe. If you can catch the interview on line, watch it and you can't help but really like the guy and get behind what he's trying to do... clean up illinois.
3/24/2009 01:06:00 AM
Umm, no. NO. He was blago's #2 and never made a stink about anything. Now, instead of CUTTING THE FAT, he's going to raise taxes. How exactly is this cleaning up illinois?
The security firm in 005 is from Toronot, Canada! It's not even American.
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/police.private.security.2.966243.html
OT:
Anyone else catch Gov Pat Quinn on chicago tonight? This guy seriously is probablly the most honest politician Illinois has seen since honest abe. If you can catch the interview on line, watch it and you can't help but really like the guy and get behind what he's trying to do... clean up illinois.
yeah ok partner.... keep drinking the magic kool-aid.
J-Fed is right about the 7,700 assigned to Patrol Division.
But either he lied by not giving the full story or he did not fully understand the data.
Yes, the districts AVERAGE ~308 assigned. But they also average about 15-20% of the bodies detailed out.
Then add in all the secretly created inside housecat spots. The "paperwork" they do is I'm sure mission critical, tho we did manage to function quite well without it for over 125 years.
"... Gov Pat Quinn ..This guy seriously is probablly the most honest politician Illinois has seen since honest Abe."
That ain't saying much.....
OK, Mrs Quinn. We see your point. Enjoy your Kool-Aid.
Its not just that we don't have as many officers out there, its also the lack of unity at work. When I first came on this job, I never needed to call for backup. Our sector and beat officers drove around like a wolf pack. It was awesome. Now I see that officers are just doing thier own thing and pretty much thinking, oh its nothing, they are fine. What is with the complacency! I understand no one wants to get into a situation where they might get a complaint that may lead to them losing their jobs, but if we present a united front thats usually enough. I am not in a busy district so I try to back up everyone I can. I did not come on this job to be oppressed by non-supportive superiors and faulter in my duties. I love my job and yes I want to keep it, but that does not mean I am not going to do, not only what I am paid for but what I know is right and just. The department gave us tools, God gave us a brain, therefore I will use both to my uttmost advantage.
I guess all I want to say is please back each other up, even if you just drive by.
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The problem isn't unity....It's the fact we are so short handed that we can't do that anymore. We are all stacked with 5-10 jobs 2 or 3 of them being 1A's. I know what you were talking about. tjhose were ythe good ol days when you were on a stop a car always rolled by, those were the good ol' days when a hot call came out everyone in the distrcit showed up. THose days are gone.........and have put us at risk.........NOT BY OUR OWN CHOICES>
I WANT TO KNOW WHERE ALL THE EXTRA $$$ IS GOING SEEING AS HOW WE ARE BUDGETED FOR 13,500 AND HAVE HALF THAT????????????
TIF FUND? FAMILT MEMBERS???? IT SURE AS HELL AIN"T GOING INTO OUR PENSION
To 4:02 a.m.,
I agree with you 100%.
Time for a little mindset change amongst some of our own.
There are no routine calls. There are no routine traffic stops. There are no bogus burglar alarms. Every "man with a gun" call has a man with a gun. Every disturbance call has the potential to turn into a riot.
Paranoid, you say?
I possibly may be.
However, I prefer to categorize these things as thinking like a cop.
WAS IT A SLIP OR A DIG TO DALEY?? HMMMM....MAYBE J-PUTS IS COMING AROUND. PROBABLY NOT!!!
Just remember that at the end of the tour, the only thing that matters is how many movers, parkers and contact cards you turn in, catching bad guys, serving the public and rendering aid and comfort to those in need are a very distant second place...so glad there is no quota, only an "index" to be met.
Its not just that we don't have as many officers out there, its also the lack of unity at work. When I first came on this job, I never needed to call for backup---------------------------------
I don't want a lot of officers on my watch backing me up
Once again the FOP is nonexistent in this mess!
just handle one job at a time. do not accept another asignment until first job is done. let the backlog go thru thr roof.maybe then he will hire more po's. where's all this money for po's going?
J-FED NEEDS NO BACK UP. START LIFTING GIRLIE BOY.
13,000 in the budget. Yea. let's promote more chiefs. We really needed capts, in waiting, lt. and sgts. Yet no pos. Desn't it cost more money to pay a capt, who really isn't a capt. yet., and hits the medical?
There is no doubt the Districts are much depleted. My question is how short are we truly in number of sworn personnel? Is it that we are short or is it just that those running the Department have redeployed a great many officers from the Districts to all these Units we have around now that were not around years ago?
Are we not federally funded to have and maintain 13,500? If so where is the thousands and thousands of dollars going every month?? Pods? Pot holes?
OT: Was talking to a buddy of mine who used to work in traffic. He told me that he once pulled over Felon Al Sanchez and his driver on the Skyway for speeding. Convicted felon Sanchez(who was highly intoxicated) went into a rage asking, "Do you know who I am? I'm Al Sanchez. Fuck you. You can't give us a ticket." The fools unfortunately got a play. Hey Al. When BUBBA gets ready to cornhole you in the joint tell him who the hell you are. That should make BUBBA'S experience that much more CLIMATIC! Bye-Bye Alvin.
PLEASE JOHN KASS: Help us in your column,no one in the city is aware of the lack of manpower.The Mayor is trying to negotiate our contract in the media,but yet we are making do with 1/2 the budgeted for bodies.The 100's of millions $$$ in seriously flawed technology is the Mayor's focus and it is now placing citizens in harms way.The destabilization of once solid neighborhoods in proof positive that the taxpaying citizens are being lied to.
Hey Pat Fitz-You got all the players now go after the head Kahuna himself-Mayor "Mumbles" Shorthshanks. This is silly, silly, silly what Shanks is geting away with. Pressure the stuttering fool and he'll start crying like a lil' beotch and denying he knew anything. He belongs in the same cell with Big Dick Nick. Only one bed per room(cell).
Huge rally on APR 2 go to nogameschicago.com.The Olympic nonsense is THE biggest quality of life issue in our generation.Every aspect of your daily life will be affected between the choice this fall and 2016.1.Gridlocked streets due to construction 2.Tax hikes to cover cost overruns 3.Displacement of low income citizens near Washington Pk to a neighborhood near you 4.No benefit for Chicago neighborhoods 5.We now become A POLICE STATE AS THE NO# 1 TERRORIST TARGET IN THE WORLD 6.The eventual cost to prosecute the greedy politicians who are going to get caught WITH BOTH HANDS AND FACE in the cookie jar. This lose/lose for everyone but a chosen few.
Demand that you don't go 99! You have that right!
Don't do transports 99!
Don't go to the "regular" dist 99!
Don't take burg alrms 99!
Stop bending the rules to make it convenient for the Mayor and JFEd.
You're not being a super hero or looking like a pussy for refusing to take a job 99. You're benefitting yourself and brothers and sisters yet to come on this job. You're greatly increasing your chances of survival and decreasing your chance of injury.
If the jobs sit, so be it!
Squad will follow CAPS policy and put in a rap.
Years of bending the rules in dispatch and in the field have led us to this point.
The days of a field boss 19p'ing 20 vice calls at a time, or squad duping " similar" jobs should be ceased immediately.
This is contract time. This is olympic time. This is the time to stop giving our big bosses ammo to use against us and to lie to our neighbors with. Luv you all!
Peace. Squad
300 average is what I recall from the mid to late 90s also, so I'm not sure why this would come as a shock to anyone.
The problem is, as any timekeeper can attest, that dozens and dozens of these bodies are detailed out of every single district. This happens far more frequently than it did in the mid to late 90s.
Meantime, inside office ranks have not gotten smaller, medical rolls don't seem to have gotten smaller.
Oh, and everytime someone screws up anywhere in the department, the first people to feel the backlash are th blue shirts in patrol.
But I digress. My point is that 300ish is what I recall as an average from the mid to late 90s.
Off Topic
WHY IS EVERYONE BAILING OUT OF TRU AND APPLYING TO MSF??? CAN YOU SAY RYAN IS A MICROMANAGER??????
That's not all... LT Kane in MSF is telling all of us MSFers that we will have at least 250 officers in the unit by June! Figure that one out. Interviews aplenty...
Where are they all coming from?
You got it!
P-A-T-R-O-L...
Donahue had a perfect opportunity yesterday to address the issues to the media, they actually called him out about daley and our contract and he said nothing. He wouldn't even return reporters calls, and we know why. It's because he has to check with Daley before he says anything publicly. This little stunt proves the fop are bought and paid for.
Donahue attended one of our rolls calls last year and said he never gets media coverage to state our issues and problems to the public, yet yesterday he had his big chance and blew it as usual.
inquire as to the whereabouts of the rest of the money budgeted for "13,500" patrol officers....
Reality check people - the 13,500 number is all sworn not PO's on Patrol. Look it up yourself we are only there are only 400 vacancies. The number of folks detailed out to "special" units is a huge problem - that's where our shartage is from>>
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Its not just that we don't have as many officers out there, its also the lack of unity at work. When I first came on this job, I never needed to call for backup. Our sector and beat officers drove around like a wolf pack. It was awesome. Now I see that officers are just doing thier own thing and pretty much thinking, oh its nothing, they are fine. What is with the complacency! I understand no one wants to get into a situation where they might get a complaint that may lead to them losing their jobs, but if we present a united front thats usually enough. I am not in a busy district so I try to back up everyone I can. I did not come on this job to be oppressed by non-supportive superiors and faulter in my duties. I love my job and yes I want to keep it, but that does not mean I am not going to do, not only what I am paid for but what I know is right and just. The department gave us tools, God gave us a brain, therefore I will use both to my uttmost advantage.
I guess all I want to say is please back each other up, even if you just drive by.
3/24/2009 04:20:00 AM
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This can NEVER be stated enough!!! We all have our problems with the city, the bosses and the political shenanigans that are played on this job, but never forget to BACK EACH OTHER UP!! Use the lack of a contract, J-Turd or mumbles Daley as your inspiration for US to bond and stick together. Now more than ever, it's becoming an "Us against Them" thing. Please help each other out.
OUR LIVES DEPEND ON EACH OTHER!!
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/Man_Beaten_Drug_Dealing
Good Job Officers!
010 3rd watch hasn't had all the cars up in over a year... 2nd watch has more than half the watch as 2 man cars and they are all up. Go figure?
3/24/2009 12:51:00 AM
005 has had the same problem since the 10-hour shift has started.
Yet the 1st Watch in 17 has so many people they can cover the crossings for the 2d watch and put up 2 man traffic and rapid cars. Someone seems out of synch.
Anonymous said...
Absolutely!!!! Back up is HORRIBLE!!!!!! Factor in all the DOGS that don't do shit and your looking at an officer's end of watch.. Someone PLEASE help!
3/24/2009 03:12:00 AM
There is no back up your are on your own! years ago it was different, now with the criminal mayor and the jokes for exempt structure, we are toast! We have to at least boys and girls back each otehr up! Hey jody though your were about more changes in a year guess more broken promises!
off topic: hey guys and gals make sure you check your prisoners WELL. 11th district lockup found a loaded gun and box of ammo on arrestee brought in by two bozo's from 12!
jefferson tap guys are on trail! Name the big boss that has many medals,thinks he is a general and left the tap without having his men leave? can you guess> Hint WOOOOOOOOOOO!
Is there anybody reading this that has the means of obtaining such documentation from that meeting? Friends, family, associates, etcetera with an "in" with any of the suburban attendees of that meeting?
3/24/2009 12:49:00 AM
How about this inside don nothing... SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! You sit behind a desk and do shit except irritate the working police on a day to day basis! You are as much a part of the problem as an understaffed patrol division! You sit behind a fucking desk all day... what could you POSSIBLY know about the manpower shortage? What could you POSSIBLY add to this conversation? You are not out there backing up anyone... You are not out there busting your ass for 8.5... You are not out there by yourself handling jobs 99 because some whiney fucking BITCH (you) are too lazy to get on the street and leave the paper shoveling to light duty personnel or civilians! No, you sit there with one thumb up your ass, and the other thumb doing a sudoku or flipping through a bar louie menu! That is when you are not busy instructing walk in shit heads how to get CR #s on the working police! So keep your mouth shut until you actually get out there and do some real work! Until that time, let the grown ups talk!
HEY SCC!!! CONGRATS!! YOU MADE IT TO THE FRONT PAGE OF THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE WEB SITE AS ONE OF CHICAGOS BEST BLOGS!!! THEY EVEN PROVIDED A LINK SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD START HIRING SOME PEOPLE TO START SCREENING THE SURE TO BE COMING BULLSHIT STORM!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!
Just go into the CLEAR system and run the numbers yourself. Search only for those with a P status. Delete all the Sgts. Lts Capts etc and you will see the real numbers. I did it a while back and found about 8000 P.O.s in patrol at that time. About 3000 in other units. Remember only about 1/3 are available to work each day so that leaves very few on the street to answer the calls to 911. Remember all dispatches go to patrol not to the outside units.
Get rid of the bullshit inside staff, get rid of the socialist programs (which are only in place to help aldermen and mayors get elected), get rid of the human waste at 35th St. Get rid of this crap and now you have enough policemen on the street. The only problem is these people are now worthless and useless. This isn't the blame of Weis, he only continues the problem.
Daley likes thing short. Like his shanks and his willie. The Daley philosophy is, "Rule it , or ruin it." When Shanks is finally out of office, I hope due to a long and painful death, they will canonize him as a great mayor, just like his old man, Hoghead. In the mean time he is working on a deal right now to sell the sewer covers in the streets to raise money for what I hope is his failed attempt to get the 2016 Olympics. It sure seems that Daley can always come up with the cash for a contract for a few of the chosen people in Shank's inner circle, but there is no money for public safety - except for his "Gang of Twenty-five" that haul his pathetic ass all over the place.
The new motto: We Serve Mayor Shortshanks. We protect Mayor Shortshanks." Greater love hath no Police Officer, than he/she who would lay down his/her life for the Shankster.
O.T. but what's with 019 grading the P.O.'s? Not sure if it's just on the 2nd watch but I've heard that the 2nd watch Watch Commander recently handed out letter grades to the P.O.'s on the watch. You got graded on your activity (or lack thereof). Not sure what affect it would have on the P.O.
Is this the new evaluation system that the department has been promising to roll out?
Where is the money going? that's almost 6000 officers down. By my calculations, just with salaries and benefits, not to mention overtime, that's in the area of $600,000,000.00, Yep that's six hundred million that is budgeted, but not being used for the police.
What's happening with this money? And when does it end? How many of us will lose our lives this summer with inadequate manpower, and equipment? Obviously the Mayor doesn't care, and neither does the man who is supposed to have out backs... JFed
There will be new widows and fatherless children this summer, and its your fault Jody!!!
Grow a set and stand up to little Richie, or do the traditional FBI thing, and run like was done with Joe Airhart
Remember this next election, and even more so next month with the Olympic Committee here
"That's amazing. Even lower than I thought. This has to get out there somehow. There are more teachers in the city than police officers"-
TEACHERS ARE NOT CRYING OVER A $3,000 YEAR STIPEN- WHAT NOBODY TOLD YOU THAT YOU HAD TO LIVE IN CHICAGO TO BE A CHICAGO COP? SHUT UP AND DO SOMETHING
Its getting to be like the first MAD MAX movie; one cop for every 50 square miles!!
Wanted man fatally shot after firing at officers(from the scum times)
I saw this and said wow no police bashing for a change, BUT I read a little farther and dude was killed by the Canadian national railroad police not CPD. Glad the officers are and sorry for the hope I had that the scum times wasn't being biased against CPD
Dear Supt. Jody Weiss,
I have been an officer for many years and I have not met you yet. I hear many things and I see the results of actions you have taken which were not in our best interests. I can only guess as to why you made such decisions, I know some choices must be difficult in your position but those you made were 100% wrong.
I attended P.O. Karshna's wake and funeral and noticed you did not attend. Sending someone from your office who had previously worked in 23 does not make you a thoughtful man. You make a lot more money than any of us and for that what do you do? Your time must be of emmence value since you could not take 20 minutes out of your day and pay your respects to the officers family who just lost their son.
From this day forward you will be just an overpaid city employee and nothing more in my eyes. If ever I meet you I will not salute you, I will not shake your hand but I will stare you in the eye and let you know that I do not respect you sir. I have fought for my country and dedicated my life to protecting this city along with my fellow brothers and sisters of the Chicago Police Dept. We as officers need and deserve a new leader, one we can look up to and one we can aggressively patrol the streets for and know that he or she will have our back. Do not bother trying to find and fix the problem that plagues our city for we all now that the problem is YOU sir.
Signed, Dedicated to my fellow officers.
O.T. but what's with 019 grading the P.O.'s? Not sure if it's just on the 2nd watch but I've heard that the 2nd watch Watch Commander recently handed out letter grades to the P.O.'s on the watch. You got graded on your activity (or lack thereof). Not sure what affect it would have on the P.O.
Is this the new evaluation system that the department has been promising to roll out?
3/24/2009 02:34:00 PM
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It's rolling out 01 April 09, no joke april fools day. Performance evaluation system.
Anonymous said...
off topic: hey guys and gals make sure you check your prisoners WELL. 11th district lockup found a loaded gun and box of ammo on arrestee brought in by two bozo's from 12!
3/24/2009 01:32:00 PM
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Wow.... talk about being non-proactive until you get a contract....
Thats taking it a bit too far 012 to not search a prisoner!
Keep it real!
There are a total 34 Units in Patrol.25 Districts plus Traffic,Cent Dent, TRU,Troubled Buildings,SWAT,Marine/Helicopter Unit, Canine, Mounted Unit and MSF. Now do the math
Check your source at the area garage because he has no clue. The entire marked fleet consists of roughly 2000 vehicles. Cars are only "junked" or removed from service when they are totalled, replaced or deemed unrepairable mechanically. Then they are stripped of all useable parts (doors, fenders, lights, etc.) to repair other squad cars with minor damage.
Here's a novel idea: if the beat cops were to show a little bit of pride in their car and kept it clean during their shift as best as they were able and brought it in for repair when it started to make that funny noise instead of saying, "Screw it. I'm off the next two," then maybe the car would only be down a day or two for a simple brake job instead of 2 months for replacement of the brakes, rotors, calipers, ball joints, idler arms, connecting rods and everything else that has been ignored for the last year.
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A) you're obviously your own source because you are WRONG! ABSOLUTELY WRONG
The CPD does not use the parts from "totalled" squads to fix cars. Nor do part out wrecked cars. They are sold at auctions. WE DON"T KEEP THE JUNKERS WE SELL THEM.
The reason we don't down our car is beacuse the pool care we will get is 10times worse then the car with the strange noise. Not to mention that it will take months to get it back. Our pool car will have 200,000 pplus. Smell like dude, probably not have air and only have 1 control setting for heat. Obviously you ride in a car that drives in circles up north for hours on end sipping your mocha. STFU and speak when you actually have a clue. Our cars are shit beacuse we have none not because we destroy them. We have no maintainance options and no replacements. There are ZERO POOL CARS and if you are lucky enough to get a pool car it most likey in 10 times worst shape then the one your turning in.
Anonymous said...
O.T. but what's with 019 grading the P.O.'s? Not sure if it's just on the 2nd watch but I've heard that the 2nd watch Watch Commander recently handed out letter grades to the P.O.'s on the watch. You got graded on your activity (or lack thereof). Not sure what affect it would have on the P.O.
Is this the new evaluation system that the department has been promising to roll out?
3/24/2009 02:34:00 PM
This can't be true because it may be one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. If it is the guys should have let out a huge laugh as the crumbled the paper up in front of the softball WC that did it.
TEACHERS ARE NOT CRYING OVER A $3,000 YEAR STIPEN- WHAT NOBODY TOLD YOU THAT YOU HAD TO LIVE IN CHICAGO TO BE A CHICAGO COP? SHUT UP AND DO SOMETHING
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Oh your one of those idiots that put a giant addition on your piece of shite ranch and now we all must love the city? Afraid if we move your ranch will be worth natta? Up grades are what we look for, leaving the rat nest is a up-grade wether you like it or not. F86k off Office
Wow, there's some real breaking news! The only ones that would never admit that are the higher ups and the mayor and his cronies. The only ones that truly believed the 13,000 number are the liberal clowns living in this shithole city
To 3/24 @ 2:37pm....WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING??? Obviously you are NOT the Police $600,000,000 for a police budget?? Go away troll...and Jody is NOT to blame for any of this mess...it is Mayor Mumbles fault...Jody does NOT control the $$ that is spent on ANYTHING in this city...He is a hatchet guy...AKA Fall Guy...he was offered big $$ to do a shitty job that if any insider did he would not last...so blame all the blood on the Mayor...he's done after this term anyway...mark my words.
Fop knows the numbers. How many paid members. How many officers contributing to the FOP. No mystery. They just sack away all those funds and laugh in our faces.
We are the chumps here. Plain and simple.
Anonymous said...
The security firm in 005 is from Toronot, Canada! It's not even American.
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/police.private.security.2.966243.html
3/24/2009 10:48:00 AM
Don't do a thing for these security jokers. Don't help them, don't wave back at them, don't even look at them. Pretend they don't exist. They are dangerous!
"TEACHERS ARE NOT CRYING OVER A $3,000 YEAR STIPEN- WHAT NOBODY TOLD YOU THAT YOU HAD TO LIVE IN CHICAGO TO BE A CHICAGO COP? SHUT UP AND DO SOMETHING
3/24/2009 02:59:00 PM"
Obviously, one of our fabulously literate CPS teachers.
O.T. but what's with 019 grading the P.O.'s? Not sure if it's just on the 2nd watch but I've heard that the 2nd watch Watch Commander recently handed out letter grades to the P.O.'s on the watch. You got graded on your activity (or lack thereof). Not sure what affect it would have on the P.O.
Is this the new evaluation system that the department has been promising to roll out?
This stupid shit is true! I got a F grade from the goofy broad!
Hey Dummy, you graded people based on the slowest and shittiest weather months of the year, Jan and Feb!
What the fuck is that! They ain't much activity in the cold weather! Anyone who has been the police would know that!
Until people refuse to go out as a one-man car after dark, . . . nothing will change.
Anonymous said...
O.T. but what's with 019 grading the P.O.'s? Not sure if it's just on the 2nd watch but I've heard that the 2nd watch Watch Commander recently handed out letter grades to the P.O.'s on the watch. You got graded on your activity (or lack thereof). Not sure what affect it would have on the P.O.
Is this the new evaluation system that the department has been promising to roll out?
3/24/2009 02:34:00 PM
It is true.
So far I have only heard this from 2nd Watch. I got through high school with D's and Old Style beer so I can go a little further I guess.
SCC, WHY HAVE YOU MISSED THE SMOKING GUN!
IAD chief Skahill was recently removed from her position as head of IAD. Helms was offered the position and possibly refused. Helms was recently demoted to captain.
Is this the reason?
Civilian chief of staff Masters may have been observed in possession of a firearm on New Years Eve. Guess who he was with...the Superintendant himself, J-Fed.
A CR# was obtained. Was Skahill removed after she refused bury the investigation?
Where did Masters get the gun? Did the superintendent personally or indirectly illegally transfer a firearm to a civilian and become an accomplice to a felony agg. UUW.
Did J-Fed commit official misconduct by failing to take action when told or when he himself observed that a civilian was in possession of a loaded firearm that was uncased and immediately accessible?
Did J-Fed commit obstruction of justice when he removed the head of IAD in order to bury an investigation that could lead to his own imprisonment?
All of this is traceable. There will be a record of the CR#, log #, or whatever regarding this complaint.
IF YOU ARE VOLUNTARILY WORKING ONE MAN CARS THEN YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM
3/24/2009 12:26:00 AM
I know that in your vast years of experience you know it all, but TRU and MSF (even though I think they are a royal waste of resources and breed nothing but retarded police officers) are still assigned to the patrol division.
In 016 on 3rd watch we have a car that starts at 1400 and leaves at 2130. Manages to avoid work and even is "protected" from calls by Sgts. MMMMMMMMMMM----I guess it's who ya know huh 22s? A real waste of man power!!
How many days till jimmy the clown caroll retires?
O.T. but what's with 019 grading the P.O.'s? Not sure if it's just on the 2nd watch but I've heard that the 2nd watch Watch Commander recently handed out letter grades to the P.O.'s on the watch. You got graded on your activity (or lack thereof). Not sure what affect it would have on the P.O.
Is this the new evaluation system that the department has been promising to roll out?
3/24/2009 02:34:00 PM
Commander John Kenny gets an F. for being schmuk following Bono around like a love struck teenage girl
I know the 004th District has manpower shortage but out here in the Gewisch we will try to hold dowm the fort.
The Gewisch Ranger
May the Lord be with YOU
off topic: hey guys and gals make sure you check your prisoners WELL. 11th district lockup found a loaded gun and box of ammo on arrestee brought in by two bozo's from 12!
3/24/2009 01:32:00 PM
must have been those dorks on 1231h on afternoons. Can we jump on some more paper with you?
That's not all... LT Kane in MSF is telling all of us MSFers that we will have at least 250 officers in the unit by June! Figure that one out. Interviews aplenty...
Where are they all coming from?
You got it!
P-A-T-R-O-L...
3/24/2009 12:48:00 PM
They will be taking the remainder of TRU in the next two months. They already took Area 1 from TRU leaving only Area 2 for TRU to patrol. Its a slow takeover but its happening. Thats why there were so many applications from TRU to MSF that the micromanager (ryan) had to run to mcnulty and have him block two good sgts from leaving and now he is trying to stop the po's from defecting too. Heres a tip...STOP MICROMANAGING EVERYONE, WE KNOW YOU "WERE IN S.O.S." AND WE HEAR YOU WERE A DOG PAPER-JUMPER EVEN BACK THEN. Stop trying to impress us with your stale SOS war stories. And even worse, stop telling us you passed up a promotion to ADS to stay with the troops...I THROW THE BULL SH*T FLAG ON THAT ONE.
OK I am late for this party. The gist of all this is.... One job at a time...back each other up...keep safe... and go home at the end of the tour. Ther have been times in the not so distant pasdt that there were even less P.O.s on the street. I patroled midnites in 024 with three one man cars and a wagon. Yes one car per sector. We had nights with more supervisors then P.O.s. I ramble here but back to what I was saying. KEEP SAFE!! Crying here won't get the manpower back in the districts
nice job today on bell in the 8th district. that's an arrest where you can feel good about helping those innocent puppies at the end of the day instead of having to deal with the regular bullshit of the 2 legged dogs every other day. well done.
hey 259 pm post, i know many teachers living outside of city limits, maybe i should turn them in. Dont forget when your ghetto punkass student tries to whoop your ass because you want hims to do hims homework that you will be wanting US. FUCK YOU, do it yourself!!!!!!!!!!
Why can't finance just tell us how many in patrol, det div, sgt, lt, etc.? Payroll can tell us.
I dont get, everyone is complaining yet no one says a word about our union. Im comin close to my twenty and ive never seen our union do squat. We can complain about each other, we can complain about richie, we can complain about the insiders.........but no one comes together to do anything about our union, how bout a no confidence vote in them for once!
Anonymous said...
jefferson tap guys are on trail!
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That wouldn't be the Dusty Trail, would it, jeanyus???
OT:
Anyone else catch Gov Pat Quinn on chicago tonight? This guy seriously is probablly the most honest politician Illinois has seen since honest abe. If you can catch the interview on line, watch it and you can't help but really like the guy and get behind what he's trying to do... clean up illinois.
3/24/2009 01:06:00 AM
take your face outta quinn's ass..the master of no waste ,cuts nothing just a big tax and spend demoncrat
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Is it me? or is anyone else sick and tired of seeing Dugan, the Skull, and James Jackson doing all of these video training clips? James Jackson is the only one who dresses correctly. I do not have confidence in an exempt who is going to where a fucking "Dickie" for a training video. Hint Hint Dugan and Skull.
It is too bad that these guys (Dugan and Skull) are what the department has to lean on in this desperate time of need. Does anyone have a hypothetical leader from this department that could bring us back to glory??? I didn't think so...Stay safe everyone...GO CHALKIE!!!
How about this inside don nothing... SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! You sit behind a desk and do shit except irritate the working police on a day to day basis! You are as much a part of the problem as an understaffed patrol division! You sit behind a fucking desk all day... what could you POSSIBLY know about the manpower shortage? What could you POSSIBLY add to this conversation? You are not out there backing up anyone... You are not out there busting your ass for 8.5... You are not out there by yourself handling jobs 99 because some whiney fucking BITCH (you) are too lazy to get on the street and leave the paper shoveling to light duty personnel or civilians! No, you sit there with one thumb up your ass, and the other thumb doing a sudoku or flipping through a bar louie menu! That is when you are not busy instructing walk in shit heads how to get CR #s on the working police! So keep your mouth shut until you actually get out there and do some real work! Until that time, let the grown ups talk!
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If you're referring/responding to the guy I think you are, you're kinda funny...but ignorant in that 99.9% of the things you state are falsehoods, hearsay and blatant lies. If you have what appears to be such animosity towards this buddy of mine, go and confront him. But I know you won't, because you'd prefer to remain an anonymous coward...another unfortunate reflection of what occupies a good percentage of this job in the last several years. And if the complete opposite is the case (your post is made in jest to try and get a rise out our friend), you're not very good at that either. And I'll let you in on a little secret: the poster you attemp to lambast here isn't the same guy you referred to as a "sanctimonious piece of shit" in the past. You fuckin' kids are too easy! School's back in session, dummy - I suggest you stay after for study hall.
- J.S./022
O.T. but what's with 019 grading the P.O.'s? Not sure if it's just on the 2nd watch but I've heard that the 2nd watch Watch Commander recently handed out letter grades to the P.O.'s on the watch. You got graded on your activity (or lack thereof). Not sure what affect it would have on the P.O.
Do you have to take a note home to mom and dad if its not a high enough grade??
OT: Read Sun Times. 15,000 Janitors just accepted new contract. Between 3% and 4.5% per year raise. And the City wants to offer us 1% and some crumbs?
3/24/2009 08:00:00 AM
And guess how many janitors are illegal? And don't even speak English but are hidden away somewhere? Trust me, I know.
OT: Was talking to a buddy of mine who used to work in traffic. He told me that he once pulled over Felon Al Sanchez and his driver on the Skyway for speeding. Convicted felon Sanchez(who was highly intoxicated) went into a rage asking, "Do you know who I am? I'm Al Sanchez. Fuck you. You can't give us a ticket." The fools unfortunately got a play. Hey Al. When BUBBA gets ready to cornhole you in the joint tell him who the hell you are. That should make BUBBA'S experience that much more CLIMATIC! Bye-Bye Alvin.
3/24/2009 12:14:00 PM
Uh, didn't Al total a city car while intoxicated and then have it stored away in one of the city pounds???? Methinks I recall such an event.
a gang bang funeral is more important than the safety of Officers, air one was told by car 4200 pull of the assist the police man with gun in school yard to over see the funeral of a gangbanger, where was Dugan, listen to tapes Sgt requesting assist air one told not to by car 4200, dont do a thing boys n girls no back up what so ever, Garden cars dont come out of gardens per their sgt, 10-1 they dont even come out, too busy on premise checks or working out at the gym, Dugan where are you?
Hey Dugan 5th District even have a computer in their roll call room how can we keep up with the so called basics , we cant even watch a video
ten hrs days in 005 suck, days off are great as far as cars 3rd watch our wagon doubles as a beat car, minumum 2 99 units every day, you get off at 3am then u have to be at court at 9am . THANKS J FRAUD
TEACHERS ARE NOT CRYING OVER A $3,000 YEAR STIPEN- WHAT NOBODY TOLD YOU THAT YOU HAD TO LIVE IN CHICAGO TO BE A CHICAGO COP? SHUT UP AND DO SOMETHING
But a teacher can make 90k + by getting a masters, or two or three. This isn't OT pay or anything special like that either, just straight pay for 9 months of work. Just a standard teacher, not a principal or administrator. The Sun Times Website has a link to find salaries for teachers at all CPS schools. Check it out, you'll be surprised what some of these people make.
Secondly, the stipend is way more pension friendly. You wanna make the big bucks and bitch about a mere 3,000? How about a high school graduation rate of better than 50% citywide in 5 years?
"That's amazing. Even lower than I thought. This has to get out there somehow. There are more teachers in the city than police officers"-
TEACHERS ARE NOT CRYING OVER A $3,000 YEAR STIPEN- WHAT NOBODY TOLD YOU THAT YOU HAD TO LIVE IN CHICAGO TO BE A CHICAGO COP? SHUT UP AND DO SOMETHING
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They are not crying because they don't live in Chicago. They're suppose too, but don't. I know personally of a handful of teachers that reside in the suburbs, but say they reside in the city.
Someone please tell me where the hell
"Toronot, Canada" is?
If the department were to eliminate MSF and TRU, no one would get locked up in this city.
The people bailing out of tru are northsiders, they don't like the dirve.
.. Gov Pat Quinn ..This guy seriously is probablly the most honest politician Illinois has seen since honest Abe."
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Tallest midget.
we had 7 one man cars on midnights in 021 maybe a week and a half ago. i know it is 021 but still.
Uh Oh -
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/police.private.security.2.966243.html
Privatization of police powers?
If the city has a buget for 13,500 swore personnel, and they are only cutting checks for 9,000 to 10,000.
Where does that extra money go ?
Understand Now? You wanted 10 or 12hour days? you got em! Less manpower needed and whats left of you will handle more jobs, be on the street longer and taking more chances to get jammed up! I have said it many times, WHAT THE CITY AND FOP LIKE IS NOT GOOD FOR YOU! THEY WANT JUST TWO WATCHES THAT THEY CAN OVERLAP EACH OTHER AND JUST LIKE THAT, EVERYONE WILL WORK PART OF MIDNIGHTS, AFTERNOONS AND DAYS! AND WITH THE TWO HOUR ADJUSTMENT THAT THE DEPT HAS, YOU COULD BE STARTING AT 2AM, 3AM, 4AM ETC. OR GOING HOME AT THAT TIME! CITY AND FOP PULLED A FAST ONE ON YOU AND YOU NEVER SAW IT COMING! NO BACK UP COMING, NO CARS AVAILABLE, YOUR WISH WAS GRANTED!
It's not that complicated, lets all just count our watch sheets. All staff on the sheets, include all iod, med, and ferlough. Then report the #'s here. It'll be a good ballpark.
3/24/2009 01:34:00 AM
Start it yourself....Alpha star query is your friend....
STOP WORKING ONE MAN CARS !!! 2nd Watch, make sure the dispatcher sends two cars. Don't worry about backlogs, your safty is #1
off topic: hey guys and gals make sure you check your prisoners WELL. 11th district lockup found a loaded gun and box of ammo on arrestee brought in by two bozo's from 12!
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slight exaggeration
yes, it was a loaded .38 revolver with 5 rounds in it.
no, it wasn't a "box of ammo." it was 5 additional loose rounds in dude's pocket.
still, completely inexcusable.
Whenever I happen to work the desk, any complaint that comes in about graffiti, gang bangers etc... I tell them to call their alderman and ask them to put more patrol officers in the area. I recommend that anyone that works the desk refer these complaints to the Aldermen.
Is it twoo? Is it twoo?
A "captain" in 019 is handing out letter grades to the twoops?
Only a visionary watch commander whose paid her dues in the "jaws of death" could come up with such a magnificent brainstorm.
It must be the work of the inimitable Janice Robarts-Dillon. She be da REAL muthafuckin' PO-leese.
How about this inside don nothing... SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! You sit behind a desk and do shit except irritate the working police on a day to day basis! You are as much a part of the problem as an understaffed patrol division! You sit behind a fucking desk all day... what could you POSSIBLY know about the manpower shortage? What could you POSSIBLY add to this conversation? You are not out there backing up anyone... You are not out there busting your ass for 8.5... You are not out there by yourself handling jobs 99 because some whiney fucking BITCH (you) are too lazy to get on the street and leave the paper shoveling to light duty personnel or civilians! No, you sit there with one thumb up your ass, and the other thumb doing a sudoku or flipping through a bar louie menu! That is when you are not busy instructing walk in shit heads how to get CR #s on the working police! So keep your mouth shut until you actually get out there and do some real work! Until that time, let the grown ups talk!
-Are you a bit angry? jealous? Have a drink!
-Are you a bit angry? jealous? Have a drink!
3/24/2009 11:00:00 PM
I know having a drink is this particular clowns method of coping with the fact he is a washed up "inside do nothing" but no thanks... Im JUST a bit stronger than that!
I suggest you stay after for study hall.
- J.S./022
3/24/2009 07:59:00 PM
just a quick word of wisdom to "JS 022"-- The answer is not at the bottom of a Jack Daniels bottle at the key club, nor at the end of a Marlboro light... Nor is it with writing repeatedly "TS" on a bathroom stall-- that got old 10 fucking years ago! So keep irritating everyone, "JS 022" and keep being an "inside do nothing"... you are really good at that!
Met one the FOP board tonight at Dominick's. City and FOP were at the table today 24 Mar 09. They plan on an update in next couple of days. Getting close. Fran got used. Story was planted, thou city is pissed that we wont take their offer. City does not want to let arbitrator settle wages with everyone else having a me too clause.
T.R.P.
"how bout a no confidence vote in them for once!
3/24/2009 06:40:00 PM"
How about facing up to the fact that a union is no stronger than it's membership?
And a membership that mirrors the rabbit population of our city is no different than that population, ie., easy to slaughter.
You want to be treated like men, stop behaving like sheep, bleating for the sheepdogs to keep you safe and lead you by your little, fluffy noses.
- J.S./022
3/24/2009 07:59:00 PM
"JS 022" huh? right Guess you learned that one in "study hall" during your thriller public school education! real witty
First, I would like to thank the Niles PD for the great job they did today at P.O. Karshna's funeral. You guys were great, thanks!
Second, I would like to vote no confidence in J-Fed who was a NO SHOW at the officer's funeral. In fact, no boss from 35th street was there. None of these very important A-holes from 35th street could even spare one hour of their day to stop by and say good by to one of their own. Several big bosses from Niles were there and one even commented that "it's a shame your superintendent could not make it." What an embarrassment our self-serving leadership has become. It's a very rare occassion that an officer dies so suddenly and not one boss could make it! Even though J-fed wears our uniform I guess he still feels like he is not one of us. Thanks for your support J-fed, Dugan, Peterson etc etc. Hey J-fed maybe your "policy group" should tell you that it's good policy to attend the funeral of a fallen officer.
Anonymous said...
SCC, WHY HAVE YOU MISSED THE SMOKING GUN!
IAD chief Skahill was recently removed from her position as head of IAD. Helms was offered the position and possibly refused. Helms was recently demoted to captain.
Is this the reason?
Civilian chief of staff Masters may have been observed in possession of a firearm on New Years Eve. Guess who he was with...the Superintendant himself, J-Fed.
A CR# was obtained. Was Skahill removed after she refused bury the investigation?
Where did Masters get the gun? Did the superintendent personally or indirectly illegally transfer a firearm to a civilian and become an accomplice to a felony agg. UUW.
Did J-Fed commit official misconduct by failing to take action when told or when he himself observed that a civilian was in possession of a loaded firearm that was uncased and immediately accessible?
Did J-Fed commit obstruction of justice when he removed the head of IAD in order to bury an investigation that could lead to his own imprisonment?
All of this is traceable. There will be a record of the CR#, log #, or whatever regarding this complaint.
3/24/2009 04:57:00 PM
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE! Lets find out more. We all know it's different rules for the brass or clouted, but this would be a new high! MORE INFO PLEASE!!!!
Anonymous said...
to everyone who doesn't back up other PO's on jobs, just think about how your going to feel when some 99 unit is on a domestic/disturbance/ANYTHING and the shit hits the fan (and god forbid a fellow officer gets injured because they had no backup). It makes me absolutely sick when a job comes out and whoever is driving heads the other way. Lets back eachother up whenever we can!
A few weeks back my partner and I responded to an Armed Robbery (IP) behind the bank at Damen/Armitage. On the way to the job saw early car, just out of roll call, at Starbucks getting coffee.
Off Topic
WHY IS EVERYONE BAILING OUT OF TRU AND APPLYING TO MSF??? CAN YOU SAY RYAN IS A MICROMANAGER??????
3/24/2009 12:43:00 PM
No, but I can say Ryan has done more police work than the majority of the usless fucks that make up TRU!
Yeah... I know this "guy" that "JS 022" is defending... without taking sides, he really is a douche bag... the nice thing about SCC is when a dog ass wannabe tries to throw his weight around, SCC provides a forum where that dog ass can be trounced... and he needs to be taken down a notch.. I have worked in 011 for 15 years and I, for one, know this clowns MO... he acts like he has seen and done it all... the truth is he is so far removed from actual police work he couldnt find dope in the crime lab! Sorry, but I am known to call a spade a spade, and this guy isnt even in the deck! maybe "JS" should convince his "friend" to get back on the streets and actually help his brothers out! Im just sayin
THANK YOU TO THE COPS THAT ACTUALLY ROLL AROUND THE WEST END OF 8TH DIST. I KNOW YOU GUYS/GIRLS ARE STUCK ON THE EAST END WITH THE DOGS. PLEASE JUST TAKE A RIDE, I'LL BUY PORTILLO'S ... LOL
THANK YOU !!!
Un-armed-city-worker-target
House in Beat 812
Mr Taxpayer, Sorry, but as short handed and busy as we are in 008, if you really need the police in an emergency , you be better off contacting the Summit police.
http://copbar.tv/
I thought it was called the "3rd Rail Lounge" or something like that now. Was that actually BENCH pouring those shots? God.....that was when this was a POLICE DEPARTMENT not Christian school.
Anonymous said...
PLEASE JOHN KASS: Help us in your column,no one in the city is aware of the lack of manpower.The Mayor is trying to negotiate our contract in the media,but yet we are making do with 1/2 the budgeted for bodies.The 100's of millions $$$ in seriously flawed technology is the Mayor's focus and it is now placing citizens in harms way.The destabilization of once solid neighborhoods in proof positive that the taxpaying citizens are being lied to.
3/24/2009 12:16:00 PM
try jskass@tribune.com!
reality sux said...
Big time shortage. Both airports are short of POs. Midway is short one sgt..........Midway also has one short lieutenant...Hahhahahahah!
3/24/2009 12:16:00 AM
And a lt who has the welfare of the officers with a big knife! She needs to go anyone want a crying sgt/aka lt? She is ready to roll! Tom A. her boss will not touch her scared of leo I presume!
must have been those dorks on 1231h on afternoons. Can we jump on some more paper with you?
3/24/2009 06:11:00 PM
I live in 12 and those are the only two coppers I see doing anything other than feeding their fat fucking faces at the academy for three hours.
Commander Ryan a micromanager? We hardly see him. But if you dont like T.R.U. bid out! Go to MSF they'll take you, Go back to the district, but stop talking shit.
"I'm off the next two," then maybe the car would only be down a day or two for a simple brake job instead of 2 months for replacement of the brakes, rotors, calipers, ball joints, idler arms, connecting rods and everything else that has been ignored for the last year."'
GOTTA BE A BOSS PUSH OFF MAINTENANCE ISSUES ON THE PATROL OFFICER. NEWS FLASH SUCKASS, MMD HAS TO FARM OUT VEHICLE REPAIR WORK BECAUSE THE PREVAILING RATE MECHANICS THERE CAN ONLY DO G&O BECUASE THEY AREN'T QUALIFIED TO DO THE WORK PERIOD. GOOD LUCK FINDING A POOL CAR THAT DOESN'T HAVE 160,000 MILES HOLES IN THE FLOORBOARDS& NO PDT MOUNT. MMD SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRIVATIZED 20 YEARS AGO. THEY WON'T EVEN CHANGE A F'NG TIRE. SO GFY WHITESHIRT HACK & PLACE BLAME WHERE IT BELONGS!!
From what I understand, the gangster funeral passed right through bt 2211. There has been all kinds of bs grandstanding and threats of retaliation made by all of the jag offs involved in this crap. I know, what new? But if it's gonna happen I sure the hell hope it's not while they're in my neck of the woods. So to the moron from 005 bitching about 4200 having the helicopter - stfu. For once a boss had the stones to protect the homefront- ghetto be damned. I say great job, kevin.
"A "captain" in 019 is handing out letter grades to the twoops?
Only a visionary watch commander whose paid her dues in the "jaws of death" could come up with such a magnificent brainstorm."
PERHAPS THE TROOPS COULD PROVIDE GRADE REPORTS TO HER& HER SUPERVISORY STAFF. SEND IT UP TO THRU THE CHAIN. OH WAIT, THEY DID THAT WITH THE BOOZ ALLEN REPORT WHICH THE MAYOR SHITCANNED BECAUSE IT WAS HIGHLY CRITICAL OF HIS INCOMPETENT SUPERVISORS.
off topic: hey guys and gals make sure you check your prisoners WELL. 11th district lockup found a loaded gun and box of ammo on arrestee brought in by two bozo's from 12!
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slight exaggeration
yes, it was a loaded .38 revolver with 5 rounds in it.
no, it wasn't a "box of ammo." it was 5 additional loose rounds in dude's pocket.
still, completely inexcusable.
It was the elite gang team, not 012 personnel,they are good coppers who just missed it, inexcuseable but it happens, and by the way 1231H will run rings around you, they are both old housing guys and great coppers...
Here's thumbnail of it...most 1st watch sheets have approx. 65 bodies on it. 2nd watch 85, 3rd watch 100. 65+85+100=250. I'll even spot you 10 extra bodies and that gets to 260 working watches in 25 districts. So that's a total of 6500 approximately. Now start subtracting, furlo's, medical, IOD's, RDO's. So let's have 1 person from each watch in a district send in how many are on their sheets and then you'll have the real number. SCC you could do it like a poll...easy enough you have all the contacts out there you need. You just need reporters to report back. 001 1st ( ) 2nd ( ) 3rd ( ) etc...
Late roll call has been pretty sparse lately. 4 people, 4 cars, that's it. Doesn't take long.
NorthSide said...
Is it twoo? Is it twoo?
A "captain" in 019 is handing out letter grades to the twoops?
Only a visionary watch commander whose paid her dues in the "jaws of death" could come up with such a magnificent brainstorm.
It must be the work of the inimitable Janice Robarts-Dillon. She be da REAL muthafuckin' PO-leese.
3/24/2009 11:00:00 PM
You guessed correctly Northside.
Anonymous said...
.. Gov Pat Quinn ..This guy seriously is probablly the most honest politician Illinois has seen since honest Abe."
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Tallest midget.
3/24/2009 09:53:00 PM
The last honest governor Illinois had was Richard Ogilvie. He made the unforgivable mistake of telling the people that Illinois needed an income tax, and then passing it, but he had help, of course, The Illinois Legislature voted for it.
Then he was booted out of office after his one term and others got to spend the new revenue. Same as will happen with Quinn except he won't even get a full term. He is toast next year. Governor Madigan will get to spend all that new revenue.
Regarding the loaded gun and ammo left on prisoner that was taken to 11th district it wasn't 1231h afternoons it was the new school car. VT and OS. Whether it was a box of ammo or 5 rounds that's inexcusablethe fact remains a loaded gun and extra ammo made it into lockup. Made it into a squad car twice made it in two police stations. Many people could of been killed including the two ding dongs who didn't search there prisoners vest pocket where above was found search ur prisoners this is policing 101. No excuse for those two goofs they r lucky they didn't end up with a bullet in the back of their heads due to gross negligence. inexcusable that's the bottom line
Hey, 10:40 on 24Mar09-
Don't forget that Blago and Quinn hated each other. They didn't talk for two years because Quinn wouldn't play ball with Blago and all his nonsense. I HATE most Illinois politicians but I think Quinn is the exception. After listening to SEVERAL non-political economists state that Illinois has one of the lowest tax rates in the nation, how Illinois hasn't raised it's tax rate in 40 years and how a higher state income tax is the ONLY way to get us out of this mess, I've decided that Quinn is the way to go. My only regret is that I did not vote for him in all the times he ran for some office in the past. Plus remember, the "Machine" is grooming Lisa Madigan to run against Quinn in the next election. They will use the tax raise as an issue even though they know it needs to be done and quietly support it.If they succeed in knocking Quinn out, Lisa gets in and now the "Machine" is back in control of the State again. Vote for Quinn.
"That's amazing. Even lower than I thought. This has to get out there somehow. There are more teachers in the city than police officers"-
TEACHERS ARE NOT CRYING OVER A $3,000 YEAR STIPEN- WHAT NOBODY TOLD YOU THAT YOU HAD TO LIVE IN CHICAGO TO BE A CHICAGO COP? SHUT UP AND DO SOMETHING
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They are not crying because they don't live in Chicago. They're suppose too, but don't. I know personally of a handful of teachers that reside in the suburbs, but say they reside in the city.
3/24/2009 09:10:00 PM
Some CPS teachers are granfather claused in and do not have to live in the city.
Why can't finance just tell us how many in patrol, det div, sgt, lt, etc.? Payroll can tell us.
3/24/2009 06:22:00 PM
They won't tell you all those full duty P.O.s are too busy kissing ass just to stay on days (Mon-Fri).
I work in 011 and I seen these two clowns, 1 male and 1 female from 012 walk in with their prisoner. To 6:11 poster....the P.O. who arrested this guy and brought him into 011 lockup was a 012 tact guy for awhile before he went back to uniform. I know his old partner. He fucked up by letting shithead into the lockup with a loaded GUN which was located in shitheads vest pocket....not under his balls. So as far as you calling out another car being the dumbfuck who let this gun into lockup YOU ARE MISTAKEN.....and last time I checked supercop....those guys on 1231H (3rd) are the only ones bringing decent arrests into 012.......and that includes ALL YOUR TACT TEAMS. Sounds as if these guys like going to court or just hate the animals in the projects. Regarding you, it really sounds like you've either worked in or are still working in 012 and are jealous of someone elses arrests or work ethics. Why dont you stop blogging and go get you fucking DRINKER, PISSBUM, OR CRANE STUDENT to lockup for your NUMBERS...............
011 (2nd watch)
Northside. It's true.
JRD is playing teacher.
You are not out there busting your ass for 8.5... You are not out there by yourself handling jobs 99 because some whiney fucking BITCH (you) are too lazy to get on the street and leave the paper shoveling to light duty personnel or civilians! No, you sit there with one thumb up your ass, and the other thumb doing a sudoku or flipping through a bar louie menu!
Don't talk about my (t)witt(ie) that way.
off topic: hey guys and gals make sure you check your prisoners WELL. 11th district lockup found a loaded gun and box of ammo on arrestee brought in by two bozo's from 12!
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I heard the guy also had Popeye's secret chicken recipe in his pocket!!
NorthSide said...
Is it twoo? Is it twoo?
A "captain" in 019 is handing out letter grades to the twoops?
Only a visionary watch commander whose paid her dues in the "jaws of death" could come up with such a magnificent brainstorm.
It must be the work of the inimitable Janice Robarts-Dillon. She be da REAL muthafuckin' PO-leese.
3/24/2009 11:00:00 PM
Hey nothside never worked with you, but from reading your comments your one of the last of The "real police" enjoy your retirement brother!
Anonymous said...
NorthSide said...
Is it twoo? Is it twoo?
A "captain" in 019 is handing out letter grades to the twoops?
Only a visionary watch commander whose paid her dues in the "jaws of death" could come up with such a magnificent brainstorm.
It must be the work of the inimitable Janice Robarts-Dillon. She be da REAL muthafuckin' PO-leese.
3/24/2009 11:00:00 PM
You guessed correctly Northside.
Grades for what purpose? Please explain. I love dillon stories
Anonymous said...
OT: Read Sun Times. 15,000 Janitors just accepted new contract. Between 3% and 4.5% per year raise. And the City wants to offer us 1% and some crumbs?
3/24/2009 08:00:00 AM
And guess how many janitors are illegal? And don't even speak English but are hidden away somewhere? Trust me, I know.
3/24/2009 08:28:00 PM
Evryone has a raise but police. So, get used to it. We are on the bottom of the pile. Polie will work without a contract while teachers and laborers would fight.
Eliminate TRU, Strike Force, Gang Enf unit.
Anonymous said...
I know the 004th District has manpower shortage but out here in the Gewisch we will try to hold dowm the fort.
The Gewisch Ranger
May the Lord be with YOU
3/24/2009 05:57:00 PM
Yeah and remember while the same Lieutenants on 3rd watch and 2nd watch that reminds us every day to slow down and not do shit, those same criminals are now driving through our neighborhoods fucking with our kids! Look at what happened this past weekend. Wake up, these assholes don't live over here, we do! Disgruntled fucks are all they are headed by the big ring leader worthless fuck Dana Alexander and his knee grabber Carla nicknamed the Troll. He is just pissed because he didn't do shit, left this shit fucked up and Jfed is now looking like a fool because he sees the reality of what this worthless fuck did. Tell Carla to stop calling everyone she can think of promising them shit for you to do your dirty work. Do it your fucking self.
do "cameras" count as manpower...city seems to have tons of money for them.
Yeah... I know this "guy" that "JS 022" is defending... without taking sides, he really is a douche bag... the nice thing about SCC is when a dog ass wannabe tries to throw his weight around, SCC provides a forum where that dog ass can be trounced... and he needs to be taken down a notch.. I have worked in 011 for 15 years and I, for one, know this clowns MO... he acts like he has seen and done it all... the truth is he is so far removed from actual police work he couldnt find dope in the crime lab! Sorry, but I am known to call a spade a spade, and this guy isnt even in the deck! maybe "JS" should convince his "friend" to get back on the streets and actually help his brothers out! Im just sayin
3/25/2009 12:25:00 AM
well put... anyone who labels themself proudly as an "inside do nothing" is a cancer on this department. There is certainly a need for inside personnel. Many I know work hard and help out. As a matter of fact, many have alot of knowledge about this job that is just as instrumental as the knowledge required to work the streets. I have seen this "inside do nothing" post here in the past. he is a menace. He thinks he has all the answers, yet time and time again just reinforces the thought that he is nothing more than a lazy slug that makes us all look bad! I have worked the streets of Fillmore for some time now, and can really only think of one clown that fits this description. And yes, he is TRULY an inside do nothing! But I will give him this... He is an all around do nothing! Does nothing to help other coppers, does nothing to help legit citizens, does nothing to help anyone but his own dumb ass self! Thanks for making it clear that you REALLY are an inside do nothing slug!
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