Reorganization Blues
As with any reorganization, there are hiccups, stalls and mistakes made before everything is "right-sized." This one is no exception:
- CAPS Offices weren't hit hard enough. CAPS is dead and everyone knows it except Daley. It needs to be euthanized.
- Commanders' Staffs were overdue for a trimming. Ticket Clerk? These spots should have been automated 10 years ago. Liaison Officers? The aldercreatures already have the Commander's phone number - they made the Commanders for pete's sake.
- The Lockup and District Desk spots will be the mistake of this reorganization and should have been determined on a case-by-case basis. Areas handle double the prisoner loads of any District. Some Districts handle triple the walk-ins of other Districts. It's a crap shoot.
We're probably going to see more than a few retirements over this, too - not a big wave, but a noticeable number.
We're also going to see some creative attempts to get around sending certain people out on the street. A "Quality of Life Car?" What the hell is that? We don't know either, but we've heard tell of one starting up.
Has anyone heard about downtown or the Units giving up spots?
We're also going to see some creative attempts to get around sending certain people out on the street. A "Quality of Life Car?" What the hell is that? We don't know either, but we've heard tell of one starting up.
Has anyone heard about downtown or the Units giving up spots?
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Look at all the people on the last transfer order, hell unites are getting MORE people.
The fat get fatter.
"A 'Quality of Life Car?' What the hell is that?"
Probably a car assigned to go after DOPW, loiterers, boom cars, etc.
Hiring feeze, or rather a substantial slow down,on Non-sworn staffers.
Scale back on the re-org consultants.
Less purchasing... if it hasn't been ordered yet, CPD's not getting it.
That's what I have heard so far and I hear it first hand from my chick who works for HQ
C.A.P.S. WORKS!Would I lie?
Dugan will never admit he made a Big Mistake by trimming Desk spots.Customer Service at the District is going to get UGLY
Yeah SCC. I just heard Eddie Burke is finally going to give up his multi-million dollar security force that have essentially been caddies and dry-cleaning couriers for the past two and a half decades. Not only that, he's giving all the salary money back to help refill vanishing pensions of city workers. His personal squad alone will be able to man an entire watch. What a guy! See! Maybe you were wrong about him SCC.
I smile when I see guys demanding that the desk be reserved for old guys and that there are too many new people on the desk.
Note: Old guys are too smart to get stuck on the desk. It is a lot harder work than most people realize.
Just hire some more damn officers already
The 001 Dist. has a Quality Of Life team led by a Sgt. working days. 3RD watch sometimes puts up a Quality Of Life car.
District Commanders and W/C's should be the one who determines on how many P.O.'s to put at the Desk not some Boss from Headquarters who does not have a clue on what is going on at the District Desk.1 P.O. doing radio's and trying to find cars to be used and 1 P.O. trying to do A&A's and do the scheduling for the next day Etc Etc.Who is going to be handling the Citizens who come in for a report and need Help.Going to see a lot of Angry P.O.'s working the Desk and hitting the Medical. This is going to be interesting!
Great job!!! Let the hidden PO's begin!!! Watch Commanders will not be taking over for the watch secs. The new spot HIDDEN PO will!! What does that solve???
Just unbelieveable. Yes, I do work the desk. Put me on the street? Okay, no problem. BUT.....the amount of work the desk crews have to handle on the 2nd/3rd watch has doubled. The watch secretarys' work has tripled. An inside job (the front desk) "ain't" what it use to be. At least out on the street I can drive away from the idiots!
Whoever thought this shit up hasn't been in a district in a long time and doesn't give a shit.
Just doesn't make sense BUT make sure those "special" units have more than enough people. "F" the districts...desk and beat cars as well!
Stay safe!
This "reorganization" and the 20 unpaid furlo days is just the first step in aggravating and ultimately to get some people to retire or quit.There will be more of this bullshit occurring down the road..
theres already a madison st detail in 015.
The biggest mistake is eloiminating the watch secretary. A contractual spot that the FOP gave up without a fight. What do you think the contract's going to look like.
We trained hard . . . but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization.
Petronius Arbiter, 210 B.C.
No big suprise there. As they say when seconds count, the cops are minutes away. With less police on the street, the time till they actually arrive will get longer.
Like I told my fiancee when she got her gun, we have fire extinguishers, first aid kits, and firearms. We know how to use all of them, and hope that we never will. But it's better to have it and never need it, than need it and never have it.
He's been known to cure narcolepsy just by walking into a room. His reputation is expanding faster than the universe. He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it feels. His blood smells like English Leather cologne. He is..............J-Fed
......The most interesting man in the world. Stay thirsty my friends!
Here’s a novel idea, get rid of that bullshit entertainment detail in 018.
WHY IS THIS BEING DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE? WE HAVE PLENTY OF OFFICERS ON THE STREET WITH 13,000 ON THE PAYROLL.
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Name HENRY, VANCE T
Title DIR OF CAPS
Salary $141,240.00
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Caps dead? Naw have to keep the "rev" rich! daley is letting all our money be thrown away on this bullshit! What other big city has this nonsense? Toledo Ohio is laying off coppers,and daley here throws cash in the toilet!
I agree with you SCC. The desk crews are going to suffer the most. 9 desk can get busy.
I wonder which face the 2nd watch secretary 009 (R.R.) will wear on the street.
the desk crews are really getting bent over a barrel on this one. can't say i feel sorry for the po with two years on the job who will have to go out and work a car. why did you come on this job ??????-- now you can stay down on a burglar alarm for four hours and paint your nails in the squad instead of behind the desk.
I wouldn't be surprised if a CPD "Quality of Life" car is what the NYPD calls a "conditions" car.
Each of the 76 pcts. has one. Officer Dillon Stewart and his partner were assigned to a "conditions car" in Flatbush Brooklyn (70th Pct.) when he was murdered in an exchange of gunfire.
Another empty headline! Sort of like the reorganization of all the exempts! Just shuffle some cards, repay the favors owed to the pols, punish the exempts that tried to get it right, and put younger, frightened LTs into exempt positions with a new car and a District or Area and just do what they're told! Genius I say! Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!
they always find ways to take care of their people , look at the 016th district , about 6 p.o.s on management on midnights but they all work a monday-friday 9-5 burglary car, nothin like padding the numbers of p.o.s who supposedly are on 1st watch, i guess the well being and safety of the p.o's doesnt matter much huh?
they always find ways to take care of their people , look at the 016th district , about 6 p.o.s on management on midnights but they all work a monday-friday 9-5 burglary car, nothin like padding the numbers of p.o.s who supposedly are on 1st watch, i guess the well being and safety of the p.o's doesnt matter much huh?
If they cleaned out that 2nd floor office you could man an entire watch with them. Maybe if the DC took a little control and listened to the radio to see the BS Tact Teams he has there something might change. I cant wait to see his blonde secretary go on the street she has been inside 9 out of her 10 yrs
Anonymous said...
Great job!!! Let the hidden PO's begin!!! Watch Commanders will not be taking over for the watch secs. The new spot HIDDEN PO will!! What does that solve???
5/28/2009 01:21:00 AM
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Let it begin? When did it ever stop?!
They already are hiding the 3rd watch W/S in our district. Giving out radios is a desk spot so that's not going to be justified.
Not putting names on the sheets when someone is working is falsifying a police document. I hope the boss is ready to take the fall for that.
Don't forget that the dept now has an activity report so when they don't hit the street, the dept WILL KNOW because activity is ZERO.
He's been known to cure narcolepsy just by walking into a room. His reputation is expanding faster than the universe. He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it feels. His blood smells like English Leather cologne. He is..............J-Fed
......The most interesting man in the world. Stay thirsty my friends!
5/28/2009 07:31:00 AM
I don't always wear a uniform but when I do, its DOS CPD's
Well I sure hope that at least 75 grievances get filed today by the dumped watch secretaries, and any desk bid officer should also be putting in that grievance. These are spots in the contract, if you just let this go, the next contract will not have these spots covered.
" Maybe you were wrong about him SCC.
5/28/2009 12:30:00 AM"
And when they're pissing in your ear, do you believe it's really raining?
A contractual spot that the FOP gave up without a fight. What do you think the contract's going to look like.
Its going to look like shit...And I hope it does ten times over. Then maybe we as Chicago Police In Blue Shirts will wake the fuck up.
We are the dumbest bunch of idiots I ever came across. We let ourselves get shit on in every way and do nothing about it.
Get rid of the crappy 06 cars in 011. These pimps run around putting everyone on each others arrests and then brag about how many arrests they have to everyone!!!!
District always in a back log and they never step up to answer any jobs! Oh, the might take all the sellings but who gives a fuck they are all crap calls with no descriptions.
Better yet, At the most there might be three rapids available, THREE!!!!! Usually there is one or two. How come these NINE 06 guys do not get placed on beat cars or rapids to answer calls!!!
Hell, there are days when there are no rapids and the 06 cars are manned. WTF!!
Possibly four or five times in the last 4 months the wore uniforms but still used the 06 call sign so they did not get any calls. Whats the point?
You can blame the City and upper brass for not hiring people but there needs to be some blame on district commanders and supervisors for shit like this going on all around the city
CAPS Offices weren't hit hard enough. CAPS is dead
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Bot they still have a "Chief" making $180,000 a year.
I worked the afternoon desk in 023 for a couple of years, hated it, but the hours worked better for my side job....
With the amount of walk in traffic that that dump gets on a daily basis, not just during cubs shit, or weekends, I mean daily, you need a cople of good bodies, people who could kick out reports, not the former civilian aid who would need two hours for an accident report....
The DC and the WC at least understood we needed bodies, and never begrudged us an extra person, but the kick was no one wanted it because the job sucked, there was no reason to do it, so we basically got the guy who needed a early start, and thanked him for helping out....
Downtown will never understand what it is like dealing with citizens until they go out and see what the desks do....
Too bad for the 3rd watch desk crew in 12. They're such nice people and deserve to do nothing but read magazines and be rude the citizens and fellow p.o.'s. Oh well...Have fun on the streets
Yeah, I have to agree with SCC. I was hoping C.A.P.S. would have gotten knocked out of the box on this one, but it doesn't seem to have really hurt it or done that much damage.
An impact has already been felt with the influx of desk-caps personnel, thanks Jfed! Now the park cars, quality cars, "mission cars-wink wink" and 'hidden' spots are all 10-4! Someone ought to look at the sheets and realize that the house-mice are simply being tucked away, and its BS. It makes no sense to cut inside spots to make more....inside spots. I can piss in a cup and call it lemonade, but in the end its still a cup o piss.
WHY IS THIS BEING DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE? WE HAVE PLENTY OF OFFICERS ON THE STREET WITH 13,000 ON THE PAYROLL.
5/28/2009 07:42:00 AM
I thought it was 14000???
Ike Crothers going to jail!! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
hello!!!! more indictments for shit-cago baby!!! ike is going down!!!!its not daley but all the kings men are falling down around him!!! today my friends...is a good day!!!
Agreed about R.R. The "former"watch secretary in 009. Stab you in the bxck then smile in your face.
Beazy should of never left 009. Doesn't matter now. No More secretary.
Desk guys will be able to handle the sheets without screwing them up.
Ive work in area 2 and am in all the districts prettyfrequently I have seen on several occasions the desks get so busy that they have to call in a car from the street to help with the walk ins. no matter how the city trys to shuffle the deck we just dont have enough manpower. Back each other up, stay safe, take your time write the reports and go home safe.
END THE CLOUT BABIES!! SEMPER FI
should of had the "quality of life car" years ago! instead, they ordered gang teams and tact teams to conduct b.s. e.d.g.e. missions or other missions plus their daily assignments to arrest DOPW, cigarette sellers, etc. In my opinion, they should just make the QOL cars another 06 type car with new guys as the primary officers conducting the missions.
..."CAPS Offices weren't hit hard enough. CAPS is dead and everyone knows it except Daley. It needs to be euthanized. "...
Is the Mayor still receiving money from the government for "Neighborhood Relations" crap from back under the Clinton regime? If we’re still getting money, no way in hell is CRAPS going to be dead!
Oh no...Cricket has to work on the street for once....
Many years ago when we didn't have a watch secretary that stuff was done by either the desk sgt. or a p.o. on the desk and it consisted mainly of completing the A&A's and doing the next days work sheets. It took maybe a total of 3 hours of work. That was when things were much simpler than they are now. Because this department has gotten so bloated on missions and event numbers etc. the watch secretaries job now consists of A&A's,the next days sheets, filing time due slips and marking them in the book,balancing day off groups,correcting almost everyone's furlo slips(less than 20% ever get them right without help),printing out D.O.C. sheets and then entering the activity the next day,entering streaming videos viewed by roll call,scheduling and keeping track of in service training,weapon qualifications etc., going through the court notifications for the Sgt.s and the list goes on and on. It is every bit of a 6 hour job now and to think that a desk Sgt. or desk officer can do this in addition to the multitude of things they're already required to do is ludicrous. 1 desk Sgt. and 2 P.O.'s can't possibly still do everything they've been doing and assume the watch secretaries duties also. It simply can't work--there's only 8 hours to do about 12 hours worth of work. The ones that will suffer the most will be the public when they can't get their phone call answered or they have a lengthy wait to walk in and make out a police report. Maybe we should do like the suburbs do when a citizen comes in to make out a police report they name check them and sit them in a room while they call a car in off the street to do the report. Dugan I applaud you trimming the dead weight from the commanders offices and C.A.P.S. but you were wrong to trim the desks as tight as you have. Something will have to give.
He's been known to cure narcolepsy just by walking into a room. His reputation is expanding faster than the universe. He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it feels. His blood smells like English Leather cologne. He is..............J-Fed
......The most interesting man in the world. Stay thirsty my friends!
5/28/2009 07:31:00 AM
No, he is SEISER !!!!!!
Well in most districts all the sam people are in all the same spots so nothing has changed. We have one less person inside than we did last week.
District Commanders and W/C's should be the one who determines on how many P.O.'s to put at the Desk not some Boss from Headquarters who does not have a clue on what is going on at the District Desk.1 P.O. doing radio's and trying to find cars to be used and 1 P.O. trying to do A&A's and do the scheduling for the next day Etc Etc.Who is going to be handling the Citizens who come in for a report and need Help.Going to see a lot of Angry P.O.'s working the Desk and hitting the Medical. This is going to be interesting!
5/28/2009 01:19:00 AM
You are a piece of shit DOG.
by this time next year, you won't be able to fill the inside bid spots.
Thought it would be different...NOT!!!
3rd Watch (Watch Secretary) in 014 in Lockup..cant hit streets??
I heard the 2nd Watch had their doozies too..people called in and held down for almost half the day to do their old jobs..one was in CAPS, and the other..(2) traffic cars, and one of them was a two-person car. At least the one of the ladies hit the street on the busiest beat, and was making some stops..granted she was working with another guy, but she was out there working.
If the guy in CAPS is so indisposable, then why did they let HIM go, and not someone else?
Heard 025 isn't going to bow down either..so I guess this was all for not.
I can't wait for the Boricua Fest in a couple of weeks..heard they were serving beers in the park, and they are getting an extra day (Monday)..whos the genius??
I guess Beluga Boy should not have given the tact secretary the axe so quick, to save his assistant..Can't wait to see all of their thumbs in their ass...Who will run the show..Lucio? hahahahahahaha.
I don't work the desk, but I know they put up with more B.S. and do more work then 99% of all the nonsense spots each District has, such as liasons, burg cars, homeless cars, quality of life cars, and numerous detail cars.
Let's not forget all the useless caps spots.
Let's hope we get some Dep Sups one day that have a clue on how Dists operate. Either they don't know, or they don't give a f*ck.
Either way, they are making an already drained Dept worse.
They want help for the beat cars, which is great, but don't chop the desk crews. Take some of the 10 yr wonders on these nonsense cars and have them work a beat and help out the working class of the C.P.D.
So we have a Director of CAPS, a Chief of CAPS and a newly created Lieutenant of CAPS all in HQ, not to mention all the many Sergeants and POs there and in the Districts. How much money would be saved by getting rid of this Political boondoggle?
Rank 1770
Government CITY OF CHICAGO
Name HENRY, VANCE T
Title DIR OF CAPS
Salary $141,240.00
Start 9/16/1995
Dept Chgo-DEPT OF POLICE
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$141,000? What a fucking insult to each and every taxpayer in this City. That could pay for 3 new PO's!
It seems like Daley and his minions are hell bent on completely destroying this job, starting with the Patrol Division, where the least clout-heavy reside. His CPD brass, along with J-Fed's "think tank" keep trying one ridiculous strategy after another. Each on its own is enough to bring the Dept. to a halt, but as usual. we at the bottom figure out how to make it work somehow no matter how hard they make it. Frustrated, the Brass has to come up with another plot even more insane and out of touch with reality. Why don't they just disband the patrol division? We can be one big mobile strike force! I guess I shoudn't even joke, the "think-tank" might take it seriously.
Great, we need many of these spots, what we don't need is dozens of under employed bosses that just creat more work for the POs and do nothing to help or solve any problems.
How many bosses are problem solvers and how many just create the problems?
Anonymous said...
The biggest mistake is eloiminating the watch secretary. A contractual spot that the FOP gave up without a fight. What do you think the contract's going to look like.
5/28/2009 06:12:00 AM
That means a watch commander will actually have to earn the $110,000 a year salary. Gosh! That is really bad to make captains work. I trully feel bad that a police captain must complete reports and AA and work sheets. No more time for crossword puzzles. Holy cow, batman!
Anonymous said...
they always find ways to take care of their people , look at the 016th district , about 6 p.o.s on management on midnights but they all work a monday-friday 9-5 burglary car, nothin like padding the numbers of p.o.s who supposedly are on 1st watch, i guess the well being and safety of the p.o's doesnt matter much huh?
5/28/2009 09:31:00 AM
16th district is a very busy district. The desk crew is constantly busy with numerous citizens walking in to make reprots. You have no idea how busy 16 is. And the amount of service calls and crime is really climbing. We need help!
Every Unit at HQ had to give up one person.
Anonymous said...
Yeah SCC. I just heard Eddie Burke is finally going to give up his multi-million dollar security force that have essentially been caddies and dry-cleaning couriers for the past two and a half decades. Not only that, he's giving all the salary money back to help refill vanishing pensions of city workers. His personal squad alone will be able to man an entire watch. What a guy! See! Maybe you were wrong about him SCC.
5/28/2009 12:30:00 AM
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BULLSHIT! That will never happen! Max and the boys will stay put... They don't know how to do anything else but Suck Ass! Street Cops? NOT!
You're all forgetting about the Auditing Crew that went out to the Districts to Spy and report back to HQ about who has what, and who can do with out what. Amazing how A.S., a certain politcian's neice who couldnt run a district; and instead of being demoted, was moved to HQ to head up the auditing and internal control. She was responible for sending these people out. Un real! Guess this reduction wasnt good enough for her when she was commander of a district, had a ridiculous amount of inside staff, hidden staff, and couldn't help but run the district in to the ground while crime increased.
Kinda funny! Now the desk crews will have just cause to send away citizens who want to report an accident. Like the old days, they'll be sent to district of occurance. Whaaaaaaa
they always find ways to take care of their people , look at the 016th district , about 6 p.o.s on management on midnights but they all work a monday-friday 9-5 burglary car, nothin like padding the numbers of p.o.s who supposedly are on 1st watch, i guess the well being and safety of the p.o's doesnt matter much huh?
5/28/2009 09:31:00 AM
Nothing wrong with a burglary car, but when the BS is happening at 1AM I'd rather have the on duty police handling it, not have to go to the alley in my bunny slippers and confront some jagoff.
Unit 192 got rid of 7 po's, the oldest on the roster and brought in 10 po's from districts. Lushes Gushes doing what she is known for at her big attempt for the command spot and dumping people so EB can bring in his people, 4-5 year wonders who belong on the street. People close to retirement and she sticks them in the 3rd District when there are po's all over WHO HAVE NEVER WORKED THE STREET and only have 5 years on. What's MORALE?!
We trained hard . . . but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization.
Petronius Arbiter, 210 B.C.
5/28/2009 06:45:00 AM
Did Petronius even speak English??
Watch Secretaries do not fear. Get a new spot at the academy.
The training division has more sergeants than any district in the city.
Hell, there are no cars to put these former house mouses in once they hit the streets.
OH, and no radios either.
BUT they can make a list of Capts, Lts and Sgts...sure, more micromanaging nitwits, no new hires.
hahahahahah
CPD is a joke
Anonymous said...
WHY IS THIS BEING DONE IN THE FIRST PLACE? WE HAVE PLENTY OF OFFICERS ON THE STREET WITH 13,000 ON THE PAYROLL.
5/28/2009 07:42:00 AM
I heard the number was 14.000---must be true or it wouldnt have been on the news, right?
Quality of life car: must be 018 district. But every district ought to adopt one.
stay down on a burglar alarm for four hours and paint your nails in the squad instead of behind the desk.
5/28/2009 09:01:00 AM
Fingers or toes?
Anonymous said...
This "reorganization" and the 20 unpaid furlo days is just the first step in aggravating and ultimately to get some people to retire or quit.There will be more of this bullshit occurring down the road..
5/28/2009 02:59:00 AM
How about a 30% pay cut for the exempts, they take to much already fuck them!
My wc had to learn how to do the A/As. Hahahha hhhaahhah! Earn your money now, dude!
Anonymous said...
District Commanders and W/C's should be the one who determines on how many P.O.'s to put at the Desk.
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That IS the problem, short tongue.
The DCs and WCs staff the offices with the young, the sultry, the clouted, and the lame.
Thanks Dan: you da Man!
Toledo Ohio is laying off coppers,and daley here throws cash in the toilet!
5/28/2009 07:45:00 AM
...and flushes the tax payer's money down to his offshore accounts.
J-Fed just gets done telling the District Commanders that they "run their districts" And then Emperor Dugan issues his edict at 1700 hrs on a holiday weekend... pretty cowardly move from a supposedly "stand up" boss? The only standing up he's done in the past 5 years is after licking shortshanks boots.
There is absolutely no leadership in this Department, and I can think of only two or three natural leaders left on this job capable of fixing it... trouble is they're waiting for the next contract and the 55 and bye bye clause, and then we're really fucked.
We trained hard . . . but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization.
Petronius Arbiter, 210 B.C.
5/28/2009 06:45:00 AM
Wow! If this isn't the truth.
Thanks, Petronius, for a very succinct description of the current state of the CPD.
Well I sure hope that at least 75 grievances get filed today by the dumped watch secretaries, and any desk bid officer should also be putting in that grievance. These are spots in the contract, if you just let this go, the next contract will not have these spots covered.
You should first read the contract it says Watch Secretary is at the discretion of the employer so sorry it's not a grievance I wish it was
Many years ago when we didn't have a watch secretary that stuff was done by either the desk sgt. or a p.o. on the desk and it consisted mainly of completing the A&A's and doing the next days work sheets. It took maybe a total of 3 hours of work. That was when things were much simpler than they are now. Because this department has gotten so bloated on missions and event numbers etc. the watch secretaries job now consists of A&A's,the next days sheets, filing time due slips and marking them in the book,balancing day off groups,correcting almost everyone's furlo slips(less than 20% ever get them right without help),printing out D.O.C. sheets and then entering the activity the next day,entering streaming videos viewed by roll call,scheduling and keeping track of in service training,weapon qualifications etc., going through the court notifications for the Sgt.s and the list goes on and on. It is every bit of a 6 hour job now and to think that a desk Sgt. or desk officer can do this in addition to the multitude of things they're already required to do is ludicrous. 1 desk Sgt. and 2 P.O.'s can't possibly still do everything they've been doing and assume the watch secretaries duties also. It simply can't work--there's only 8 hours to do about 12 hours worth of work. The ones that will suffer the most will be the public when they can't get their phone call answered or they have a lengthy wait to walk in and make out a police report. Maybe we should do like the suburbs do when a citizen comes in to make out a police report they name check them and sit them in a room while they call a car in off the street to do the report. Dugan I applaud you trimming the dead weight from the commanders offices and C.A.P.S. but you were wrong to trim the desks as tight as you have. Something will have to give.
You must work the desk as I work in the Cmdrs office but you are wrong my friend we do as much work as you do. So please I'm not bitchin about your job so please don't say things about mine that you have no knowledge of.
What will happen to the watch secretary in 008 on third watch? Retriement cannot come fast enough. Maybe you could work a beat car your last year on the job and get bounced around every day on different cars. Payback is a bitch!
Quality of Life = looking out for the bust-outs, homeless, alcoholics, mentals, druggies, border-line thieves. All the people even family doesn't want around.
Rank 1770
Government CITY OF CHICAGO
Name HENRY, VANCE T
Title DIR OF CAPS
Salary $141,240.00
Start 9/16/1995
Dept Chgo-DEPT OF POLICE
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And this bow-tied insignificant piece of dirt Vance Henry hates the police. Seeing him on the elevator at HQ made me want to vomit. Knowing he makes $141K off the backs of the citizens of Chicago makes me sick. $141K for a reverend buffer, and he doesn't even buff well enough to warrant a salary of 30K! How ridiculous.
How many P/O's could be hired if they city shit canned Vance Henry and Peter Karl Productions, which is located in Elmwood Park, thereby Peter is not required to have city of Chicago vehicle stickers for his many business "filming" vehicles.
Peter makes a ton of dough with this CAPS crap and crime watch crap. Peter does not have to live in the city and pay personal real estate taxes. The real estae taxes for his residence and his business go to a suburb, but the money comes from the city of Chicago taxpayers.
Nor do his employees have to live in the city or buy Chicago vehicle stickers. Every dollar going to Peter Karl Productions leaves the city and does not return. All we get his his crummy videos.
I am sure there is another production company within the corporate limits of the city of Chicago that would be more than happy to take over. Hell, I got a video camera. Fuck Peter, I can make cheesy videos too! Where do I sign up?!
Anonymous said...
We trained hard . . . but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization.
Petronius Arbiter, 210 B.C.
5/28/2009 06:45:00 AM
Did Petronius even speak English??
5/28/2009 06:43:00 PM
He was very advanced for his day. He spoke English, wrote it too, hundreds of years before anyone else. He even used a keyboard but his computer was dark, no electricity yet.
Anonymous said...
We trained hard . . . but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization.
Petronius Arbiter, 210 B.C.
5/28/2009 06:45:00 AM
Did Petronius even speak English??
5/28/2009 06:43:00 PM
Oh, so right, excuse me.
Wir betreiben harte Ausbildung, aber jedes Mal, wenn wir dabei waren, Gemeinschaften zu bilden, wurden wir umorganisiert.
Später im Leben habe ich gelernt, dass wir dazu neigen, neuen Situationen mit Reorganisation zu begegnen: Und dies kann eine glänzende Methode sein, die Illusion von Fortschritt zu schaffen, während Verwirrung, Wirkungslosigkeit und Demoralisierung produziert werden.
Petronius Arbiter. 210 vor Christus.
"Heard 025 isn't going to bow down either..so I guess"
No changes here. You heard right.
Don't forget the new inside spot in the 3rd district. POD watcher!!!!! What BS, anything to keep the 2nd watch queen(A.H.) inside. How bout ACTUALLY moving some people out of the caps office, & not just changing their call signs. 9 CAPS officers to do what??????sit on their asses while i'm being hammered with jobs. 3rd District what a fucking joke. Can't wait to leave, but would probably get pulled back because of manpower needs.
TO: Watch Secretaries do not fear. Get a new spot at the academy.
The training division has more sergeants than any district in the city.
5/28/2009 06:54:00 PM
No shit look at that unit and their manpower for 50 recruits....
Nothing will change....those people will never hit the streets. I'll still be working 99 on third watch while they have a cd car up, a business liason car, bicycle patrol....etc. No I am not a beefer and won't file a grievance cause if I do I will never get any time off and will get jacked around. I like my car and if I can't handle a job I request another unit and wait for them. Say what you will....blaa blaa blaa.
Well I sure hope that at least 75 grievances get filed today by the dumped watch secretaries, and any desk bid officer should also be putting in that grievance. These are spots in the contract, if you just let this go, the next contract will not have these spots covered.
5/28/2009 10:51:00 AM
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Watch secretary "spots" are NOT bid, dummy.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that your Captain told you that you'd be OK when the big changes came around, didn't s/he? That as his/her "Watch Secretary", you'd have contractual guarantees against shit like this.
New flash, house mouse! Your position doesn't officially exist. You're only around at the whim and fancy of your W/C. You just been played. See you at late checkoff, sweety.
Pheww, that was close.....B&A almost lost its CAPS Co-Ordinator...
Gents, this should give you a clue as to how illegitimate this department is. If you read the order, they dictate a reduction in the desk crew while at the same time asking for a REVIEW of the CAPS office procedures to make sure everybody is working effectivly. That says it all right there. They will not touch CAPS but they WILL reduce the amount of officers on the desk and in the commanders office. Now before you get your panties in a tightwad, let me tell you this. I have experience in all three venues. As far as the desk goes, in the typical station there are times they sit around and BS and there are times they work their ass off. But you need all three Officers plus the Sgt. They have been tasked with doing far more today than they ever did before. As far as the commanders office, they now spend a HUGE amount of their time responding to aldermanic requests, CAPS nonsense, requests for some BS from downtown. It's all BS but it has to be dealt with. Eliminate all the nonsense and PERHAPS a reduction there might be in order as well. As far as CAPS, 90% of what goes on in there is NOT police related. You could eliminate almost the entire staff and nobody would notice a thing. What does a senior citzen Officer do? What does a Domestic Violence Officer do? The answer is nothing special. Think aboiut it. You take a report from a victim of DV. Where does it go and who investigates it? It goes where the rest of the reports go. To the detective division. They conduct the followup investigation, not the DV officer. So what then does the DV officer do? What useful purpose does he/she have? The CAPS office is simply a hiding spot for those that are connected or are afraid to work the street. And yet they will not take a hit but the desk will! Doesn't make any sense to me.
News flash, 12:10, never said the watch sec. was a bid spot. Look at the contract, it tells what spots can be filled without bids, and watch sec. is one of them, it also tells how many spots are "allowed" in caps and the d/c's office. The brain trust IS violating the contract.
And who do you think handles all the traffic accident reports, that if driveable are automatically sent to the desk? And the victims of even serious crimes that get tired of waiting hours for a car to show up? I know the cars are extremely busy and can't be everywhere, but more and more jobs are being sent to the desk. Its a fact. This should also be a safety grievance by any PO that is on a desk alone. Alot of people who have never worked the desk are commenting about what they know nothing about.
Thought it would be different...NOT!!!
3rd Watch (Watch Secretary) in 014 in Lockup..cant hit streets??
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Met the guy once drinking with his Lt.
First time in my life I saw a Lt. buying drinks, the guy was there for 2 hours, and never bought a round.
He must have something on Lt.
Also sat there bragging about his education, I think he said he had a phd.
Hit the street fool.
Your co-workers must love you to have posted that here.
Hit the street fool
Don't forget that the dept now has an activity report so when they don't hit the street, the dept WILL KNOW because activity is ZERO.
5/28/2009 10:22:00 AM
tHIS WONT PROVE ANYTHING MOST PEOPLES ACTIVITY IS 0 ALREADY
big shake up next period
captains hiding desk people on ghost cars will be reassigned
big shake up next period
captains hiding desk people on ghost cars will be reassigned
5/30/2009 01:08:00 PM
If this is true will see if the 2nd watch captain from 014 gets reassigned. He's made it clear his sec ain't going anywhere past his office.
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