Mandatory OT?
Supposedly, 4 captains, a number of lieutenants, sergeants and more than a few officers had their papers in for 15 January. This appeared in our comment section Saturday:
- 4th period 1 apr 10
no aprils fools joke
2nd watch captains will be assigned to 1st and 3rd watches in districts without a captain
We can only imagine the overtime checks the City will be cutting shortly.
Other rumors of working days off in your district are also popping up with increasing frequency. We're looking at a very interesting summer in terms of stopgap measures coming up. Be careful out there.
Other rumors of working days off in your district are also popping up with increasing frequency. We're looking at a very interesting summer in terms of stopgap measures coming up. Be careful out there.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
133 Comments:
Hahaha, working overtime and days off huh? We can't even hit the streets on time because the lack of cars. Sure give me overtime, I'll sit in the station reading the blog.....
Heard over 400 have put in for retirement. Anybody know the total numbers?
Plus, a LOT of sergeants are holding off, just waiting for age 55 medical coverage.
Ancient Chinese curse: "May you live in interesting times." And we do. We really, really do.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$... I will work all my rdo's this summer! All the house mouses will be scared of the STREET.
HOW ABOUT WE DO THIS:LETS HAVE TAC TEAMS ANSWER PRIORITY 1-A JOBS!THEY GO ANYWAY AND IF THEY GRAB THE UUW,CRACK,OR BURGLARY OFFENDER THEY TAKE IT ANYWAY ,SO ASSIGN IT TO THEM!!ALSO WE HAVE TRU AND MOBILE STRIKE FORCE OUT THERE AND WE R IN A BACKLOG ALL NIGHT !SIMPLE ANSWER IS HAVE THEM ANSWERING CALLS FO SERVICE ON THE ZONE!THEY CAN HUNT BETWWEEN CALLS IF THEY WISH!PROBLEM SOLVED!BETTER YET MAN THE DISTRICTS
as I heard it....(maybe no truth).....about 5 Capts., 12 Lt.'s (at least) leaving right now, or very soon...not sure about Sgt's and P.O.'s, Det.'s, etc. (although it looks like 300-400 of those ranks will retire)...city hall not approving any promotions, meaning....big time o/t for those remaining personnel?...not sure about re-assigning Captains, but dog's are being revamped for the 4 and 2 work schedule effecive 7 February
Perhaps the recent requirement that officers sign up for overtime intiatives on CLEAR is part of this upcoming program.
Once again the department is running into a depth problem. We don't have a sufficient number of personnel to keep this up for an extended period. You can only push people so hard for so long before they need a rest or else they break down (physically/mentally).
This is a definite officer safety problem.
rb
As you said, SCC; "Ah, federal money. That explains it - the Obama money is rolling in. How much more money can Obama create out of thin air?
Evidently, quite a lot."
Maybe we'll get more federal money for this!
We can just drive a little faster so people will see us more often. Or we can be issued blow up replica policemen to strap into the passenger seat to help with the omnipresence thing.
No amount of hiring will help this summer. There simply isn't enough time to get people hired and trained and on the street with enough experience to do any good.
Think OT or meltdown. And if a large enough amount of officers simply refuse to work 10-99... well it would be interesting to hear what warrior orders Dugan would issue then.
Lots of people retired this past Friday. A good number of them were lieutenants. Looks like the higher ranks are fed up with the WEISel/Chachi show too.
HQ rumor says 45 Lts & Capts gone by 3-15-10.
if you run lt's they are already 39 short of "budgeted" strength. Capts are 7. I heard as of the 15th 30 lts and 5 more Capts retired. That is a shortage of 81.....That is a lot of overtime and out of grade pay....Lts get overtime if they are the watch bid and have to leave.....Not sure if captains can be moved watches, but have to think they have protections too...like lts and Sgts....at least the day guy/gal in most districts.....Nothing to see here..move along.....
not to mention 200 P.O.'s....
don't answer the phone if you see a department number pop up... too bad soo sad that their is no one to handle the jobs--- alderman are allowed to carry a firearm--- give them a couple of these junky pool cars and send them out on jobs.... they know everything, just ask them....
Not gonna happen.
Let's all remember those suffering in Haiti. Please make your generous donations to the American Red Cross.
I'll show up for that OT money.Just dont expect any numbers.
I HAVENT FORGOT THAT WE HAVE NO CONTRACT.
I/F
SCC, take a look at this, i'm not a race baiter but how can you not be when there are shitheads like this!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlP9-8f5YpE
Anonymous said...
As you said, SCC; "Ah, federal money. That explains it - the Obama money is rolling in. How much more money can Obama create out of thin air?
Evidently, quite a lot."
Maybe we'll get more federal money for this!
1/17/2010 12:55:00 AM
DON'T YOU GET IT!
The printing presses are running day and night.
The Chinese are bankrolling Amerifca's Debt.
The USA couldn't be invaded by an multi-million man army with Russian T-90 tanks, but it can be over whelmed by an infiltrating force of foreign nationals who will sap the life out of us with General Pilosi, Franks, Helms and Obama at the helm.
They are going to make the "Yankee Dollar" worthless as part of the plan of the downfall of America.
House mouse? Scared of the street? Listen you snot nose kid you probably won't see the first nickel of OT if any of the older EXPERIENCED coppers who have given you their seat in a squad want it. What a tool/fool.
why work for the irish mayor let the city go to hell is summer then you might get a contract
it's cheaper to pay us time and a half than to recruit hire and train new recruits
Anonymous said...
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$... I will work all my rdo's this summer! All the house mouses will be scared of the STREET.
1/17/2010 12:20:00 AM
Yet they will be given preference when they want it. They will want it and WILL HOLD THEMSELVES DOWN ON THE DESK DURING OT. And will hide like with safe streets, because they "can't go to court", because they work in the commander's office or on the desk.
All for what, a little extra dough and a gold star. There's over 10,000 coppers that can't stand the sight of you and will never forget your face. If you need any help with anything, don't call us!
1/15/2010 11:21:00 PM
Geeeez, lighten up Francis, he was an INSPECTOR. That is the job. Put your auto in order, wear the right uniform, do your job properly and you are OK. Were you scared of the Boogy Man too? Good luck to ALL the retirees. Thanks for your service.
1/16/2010 09:06:00 AM
No breaks for the Boogieman either. Hammer that asshole, I hate him and he scares me.
HOW ABOUT WE DO THIS:LETS HAVE TAC TEAMS ANSWER PRIORITY 1-A JOBS!THEY GO ANYWAY AND IF THEY GRAB THE UUW,CRACK,OR BURGLARY OFFENDER THEY TAKE IT ANYWAY ,SO ASSIGN IT TO THEM!!ALSO WE HAVE TRU AND MOBILE STRIKE FORCE OUT THERE AND WE R IN A BACKLOG ALL NIGHT !SIMPLE ANSWER IS HAVE THEM ANSWERING CALLS FO SERVICE ON THE ZONE!THEY CAN HUNT BETWWEEN CALLS IF THEY WISH!PROBLEM SOLVED!BETTER YET MAN THE DISTRICTS
you couldn't have said it any better. This is so true take all those useless teams and man beat cars with them. If we have too many add extra beat cars to the problem beats.
Anonymous said...
Let's all remember those suffering in Haiti. Please make your generous donations to the American Red Cross.
1/17/2010 03:54:00 AM
Hundreds of millions of our tax dollars not enough?
Don't think for a moment with Daley agreeing to the age 55 medical coverage that it wasn't known that all these people in various ranks would leave the dept. with no plan in place. Daley has a plan...wait and see. Be safe out there.
Maybe the special units that dont answer calls need to be cut back a few percentage points. Look at the transfer orders. The units are constantly being beefed up at the expense of patrol.
Many units are redundant ex. TRU and MSF, Among others. Maybe cut by 25%. I dont know. Im not playa hatin here either. I think all units have something to contribute, but as Captain telepromter keeps saying, "We all have to have some skin in the game."
Right now it looks like only patrol has to suffer low manpower.
Hey Asshat, I donated to the Haiti fund to the tune of $100 million. Not that I had a choice in the matter.
January 11, 2010 Executive Order
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/2010executive_order.pdf
implementation of the 4 and 2 is a joke. show me the OT! bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Budgeted Lts--approx 274
Current- approx 224
This means 50 short with more to come before April.
Budgeted Captains--approx 75
Current- approx 63
This means 12 short with a few more to come before April. Not counting the 5 Captains that should be made Inspectors as per their contract.
Short--
Anonymous said...
don't answer the phone if you see a department number pop up... too bad soo sad that their is no one to handle the jobs--- alderman are allowed to carry a firearm--- give them a couple of these junky pool cars and send them out on jobs.... they know everything, just ask them....
1/17/2010 02:49:00 AM
So True! And eddie burke has valets and a police spec car eddie should patrol his 14th ward shithole! Why when eddie is at city hall are his valets not assigned jobs? Why when eddie goes away are his valets not working a beat car? just asking?
dont forget about the furloughs!!!!
What ever happened to Seiser or Purple Shades?
1/16/2010 07:56:00 PM
I heard they got together,created it,and pushed through 4-2 schedule!
With massive OT opportunities, Captains will be closing in on $200k for 2010, while exempt members and their forced furloughs will be lucky to make $110,000.
I love it.
TO: if you run lt's they are already 39 short of "budgeted" strength. Capts are 7. I heard as of the 15th 30 lts and 5 more Capts retired. That is a shortage of 81...
Not trying to be a jag, but when was the last time anyone saw a manpower report showing authorized strength, actual strength and +/- resulting form those two sets of numbers....Use to come out I think once a month, now onely dep chief and up get it???
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Let's all remember those suffering in Haiti. Please make your generous donations to the American Red Cross.
Your kidding,right??
Yeah, the leaders of that God forsaken country don't have enough in their Swiss accounts.
I already donated...it's called my federal withholding taxes. How do you think the military is paid for?
"This is a definite officer safety problem."
Yeah Officer Safety, You Assclowns really think they give 2 shits if your hurt or killed?
Thanks for playing..NEXT!!
Hey Supt Weis: POP QUIZ!
Who said, and I quote...
"Too many cops are crooks, and I'm going to do something about it?"
Answer
While assigned to an Chicago Police internal affairs unit, ROBERT HANSSEN made this comment to a family member
For those of you who don't know, HANSSEN was an FBI agent , and convicted felon who turned out to be the biggest traitor in the history of the Bureau.
Google him, and watch BREACH when you get the chance. Maybe HANSSEN can be a speaker at the Leadership Series, huh Supt?
Just refuse to work 10-99. It's in the contract. But let's face it, we all talk tough but when it comes down to it, we buckle under and just whine.
Anonymous said...
Let's all remember those suffering in Haiti. Please make your generous donations to the American Red Cross.
1/17/2010 03:54:00 AM
Wait until there shipped over here we will be paying for them. Another Maralito type group coming over?
In the mid 70's they had special employment in the districts. You could even work your regular beat if there was an opening. Dicks could work it too but in uniform in a beat car. The only thing was, that was before a contract and it was straight time. Most of us did it because it was still more money than working security at McDonald's or Burger King.
Doubt if 400 put in for retirement in 2010 There were only about 150 or less that put in for the 55 free health insurance and that covered the whole year so no way 250 who were under 55 put in for retirement
can i get an event number please?
Saturation and Gun Teams soon to be disbanded. A lot of personnel and vehicles heading back to the districts. Level 2 DOC will be covered by tac and rapid response cars. Deputy chief will also have to send all sworn personnel in his office except for two P.O.'s back to the district for street duty. This is coming down soon per Dugan.
City Hall And the department brass has their head in the sand. Average joe citizen is clueless about how underprotected this city is. I hate to say it, but it's gonna take a major catastrophie of some kind to shine the light on what's being done to public safety in this city.
Just talked to a retired CPD living in Arizona, the Phoenix PD is going to lay off 200 coppers.
Wal-Mart, unions form rock, hard place for Daley
Hope it squeezes that MONGOLOID head off.
Just wait until the 3rd of July or Bud kill again.
Two words: Cluster Fuck!!
Let's all remember those suffering in Haiti. Please make your generous donations to the American Red Cross
I already gave, in the form of $100 million Obama gave, of our tax dollars....
Absolutely true. More than 35 people put their papers in on Friday. Many supervisors, some of whom said they ware dissatisfied with where this department is going. They expect that there will bo other "Black Friday's" as well. So many people in their 50's were lined up it looked like they were waiting to buy tickets to a Grateful Dead revival Concert.
The thing about the Captains is true. Any second watch captain will grieve this, and I've been told as much, so I know it is true. These Captains got screwed, now these older guys are supposed to take on midnights as well? And you thought morale was low amongst the rank and file? These guys are pissed.
hey SCC, please post these videos from the massive rap party brawl outside of the Capitol Club in the 4200 block of N. Milwaukee from the other night.
I believe the citizens of Chicago need to see what kind of savages the CPD deals with everyday.
Even AFTER the police arrive on scene, these mutts continue to fight with the police and even threaten officers with bodily harm if they ever see them "on the streets"
part 1 - actual fight and police response
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7EOanLALO8
part 2 - threats made against P/Os
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQEPe2A9H6g
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just wanted to prove that us "Polacks" were not involved as the liberal and biased media wanted everyone to believe
I used to be a manager in private industry!
I know for a fact, that it is cheaper to pay overtime to the people you have left, rather than hire or promote more bodies with new or higher salaries and more benefits to pay out!
Then at the discretion of City Hall they can turn off the overtime spigot without any penalty!
It is nice to make the overtime pay for those of us that will get it!
In the long run, we only hurt ourselves because City Hall will see it is cheaper to NOT promote or hire more people in all ranks!
So for those of you on the short lists waiting to get promoted to Lt., Sgt.s, Dicks, etc. or waiting for friends to get hired on as Officers!
It will be a LONG time before it happens! We are short how many people across all ranks?! Still no promotions and very few P.P.O.'s hired in the last few years! Even the promotion lists are old and may be taken down before anytime soon!
The City does make these moves unless they know it will benefit the city and not labor! The numbers they crunch don't lie!
>>>> Anonymous said...
We can just drive a little faster so people will see us more often. Or we can be issued blow up replica policemen to strap into the passenger seat to help with the omnipresence thing.<<<<
>>>>>No amount of hiring will help this summer. There simply isn't enough time to get people hired and trained and on the street with enough experience to do any good. <<<< Who needs to examine anyone, remember the thread about NO ENTRANCE EXAM, just call up Obama's Acorn and say come one down. Never mind the training just suit'em up and send them out.
>>>>Think OT or meltdown. And if a large enough amount of officers simply refuse to work 10-99... well it would be interesting to hear what warrior orders Dugan would issue then.<<<< Dudley dugan can't last much longer and will probably leave with J-Fed. The exempts, captains and lieutenants are fed up and thinking who should we knock off if Shortshanks drops dead. We can only hope.
it will be more like what was done over 13th period when all the w/cs on days & the former caps lt (still on days with no real job) all went on furlough as scheduled, by golly they borrowed surplus lts from 20, 23, 24, and most interesting from the Ivory Tower! WE enjoyed the change...left us wanting more of the same, especially if our Capt doesn't get back real soon...please give us rotating lts, the pleasure was all ours. Why? How about just that they were bright, showed common sense in decision making, treated the officers like the adults they are, were not nervous nellies, did not freak out or yell.....well u get the picture; turned out to be the best time working all year. We thank you, each and every Lt who subbed in, please come again!
The older guys with time on the job are the one's that get first pick of any and all overtime incentive's, like the airports, movie details etc. These are mostly the guys with spots other then a beat car. When you get off probation take a look at the contract sonny...
OK...I'll take all I can get as I cruise towards "75% and all the blunt I can smoke". Don't really give a fuck about much else.
If I have the career ending IOD while working OT at time and 1/2, do I get 112% tax free for life?
Ya gotta figure this shit out......
Boy, all the OT will sure save the taxpayers money. This is the Daley regime of extreme failure.
when they take up A COLLECTION TO HELP " THE IRISH CHILDREN FAMILY FUND" FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN UNDER ENGLISH RULE FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS LIVING IN POVERTY (ALMOST THIRD WORLD CONDITIONS ) I'LL BEGIN TO THEN THINK OF THOSE IN HAITI.
Let's all remember those suffering in Haiti. Please make your generous donations to the American Red Cross.
1/17/2010 03:54:00 AM
REMEMBER JENA 6 IN 2007. JENA, LA
DONT GIVE SHIT TO THE AMERICAN RED CROSS.
as I heard it....(maybe no truth).....about 5 Capts., 12 Lt.'s (at least) leaving right now, or very soon...not sure about Sgt's and P.O.'s, Det.'s, etc. (although it looks like 300-400 of those ranks will retire)...city hall not approving any promotions, meaning....big time o/t for those remaining personnel?...not sure about re-assigning Captains, but dog's are being revamped for the 4 and 2 work schedule effecive 7 February
I'm sure the are hundreds waiting for the contract to be ratified. It's going to be a long summer 0110
AND A BIG KUDOS TO THOSE THAT WORK IN THE 022ND DIST. THAT RESPONDED TO THE BURGLARY IN PROGRESS ( 104TH AND PROSPECT), WHERE THE KID WAS AT HOME WHEN THE "X FACTORS"/ IN CUSTODY DECIDED TO KICK THE DOOR IN. THE PARENTS WERE /ARE VERY GREATFUL TO YOU ALL. NICE JOB.
I thought they were getting rid of Captains?
There still is one capt assigned to HQ, in personal I think. What a waste.
The remaining capt's will love this. Four hours of ot everyday at D5 pay. They'll stay in the office for an extra hour and tell the desk sgt to call them if they need them.
In all reality the commander should be the 2nd watch w/c. Then have the remaining capt's work 1st and 3rd watch.
63 patrolmen working on 2nd Watch in 018 on any given day.
22 Footposts
G-d knows how many people in CAPS and the front office.
Huhhhhhh,
I think we can make some changes.
Anonymous said...
Let's all remember those suffering in Haiti. Please make your generous donations to the American Red Cross.
1/17/2010 03:54:00 AM
i'd love to make a donation if i could afford too.
with all these furlough days and no paid holidays and no overtime pay, i'm just a paycheck away from being on the street myself. :(
this city is collapsing worse than haiti, and nobody can see it. very very sad situation all around.
Who cares if we are in a backlog? Really give me a brake
DALEY WANTS TO DOWNSIZE DEPT.
All extra cash goes in general fund to spend like he wants!
He wants us to be like L.A. with 8300. He forgot that they also have sheriffs and other local units covering the same areas.
WE DON"T! THE CITY IS OURS!
NO ONE POLICES IT BUT US!
Citizen: "I am just a cop, born and raised here in Chicago. I need help. There is no one to back me up when I go your domestic disturbance, I am alone responding to a man with a gun! I take the robbery in progress and say I'll call for help if I need it. I check your house to see if there is a break in alone!
I drive around for 9 hours looking for a bad guy alone, and when I find him I call for HELP! So I can lock him up.
WE have 8-10 million people in this city Mon-Fri and you have 500 police in marked cars on the street. THINK THAT IS RIGHT???
WE DO THE JOB, WE JUST NEED THE SUPPORT OF A FULLY STAFFED POLICE DEPT. AND CITIZENS WHO KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG.
PLEASE HELP US !!!
And I'd like to take a day off occasionally for family functions, but I can't because were too short handed!
Keep working hard for this department my fellow officers. Keep bringing in good arrests and lots of revenue.
RUMOR HAS IT THE REASON OO7 IS SO SHORT ON 1ST WATCH IS THEY TOOK A BUNCH OF POS TO FORM A MISSION TEAM?ARE U KIDDING ME?5 ONE MAN CARS AND NO WAGON FOR THIS!COME ON,WE HAVE A TAC TEAM AND TRU AND MOBIL STRIKE FORCE IS THERE DAILY!COME ON IN THE NAME OF OFFICER SAFETY AND PO SANITY END THE DETAIL!WE DONT HAVE THE MANPOWER BOSS!!DO THE RIGHT THING!!PLEASE
Milwaukee ave brawl...
Used to have a few calls for service at that place. Nothing like this, however.
Now, what is it that is different now?
Anonymous said...
If I have the career ending IOD while working OT at time and 1/2, do I get 112% tax free for life?
Ya gotta figure this shit out......
1/17/2010 03:39:00 PM
No.
And if you have that career ending IOD while working your canceled day off on a holiday the results are still 75% tax free and not for life, only until your regular retirement, 63 years of age. Then you go on normal pension at whatever rate you would have attained at age 63.
close 5 districts and cpd will have enough supervisors
SCC:
I just wathced the Capitol Club video of the fight in 016. I would like all the police officers and citizens as well, to know that this place has been protected by that fat ass Levar for over 20 years. The owner Chester is his good buddy. Every time there is a beef there, it magically gets taken care of by this asshole. And believe me, there have been many. You guys remember Levar, he's the Alderman that watched a police officer arrest a resister in a restaurant and then claimed he didn't see anything. Thanks for nothing you jagoff!
the captain at HQ is none other than Lynette Helm, who works for another wonder woman, TRacy Ladner. These two earn a lot of money to sit in the ivory tower and do nothing.
so if our country is in a crisis with money and people losing their jobs, whe re does Osama Obama come up with 100 million for Haiti?? How about we fix our own country befor ewe give to others. Where were all the se other countries when 9-11 hit us??? Asshat's for Obama....
Anonymous said...
when they take up A COLLECTION TO HELP " THE IRISH CHILDREN FAMILY FUND" FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN UNDER ENGLISH RULE FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS LIVING IN POVERTY (ALMOST THIRD WORLD CONDITIONS ) I'LL BEGIN TO THEN THINK OF THOSE IN HAITI.
1/17/2010 03:50:00 PM
If you're that concerned about the poor Irish children, it shouldn't be too difficult to find a charity to contribute to that helps them out. But I'll bet that your concern for those kids extends only as far as your ability to make a point.
LETS PLEASE REMEMBER ALL THE POOR PEOPLE HERE TOO THAT LOST THEIR JOBS & HOMES AND CANNOT FEED THEIR FAMILIES....
Anonymous said...
Perhaps the recent requirement that officers sign up for overtime intiatives on CLEAR is part of this upcoming program.
Once again the department is running into a depth problem. We don't have a sufficient number of personnel to keep this up for an extended period. You can only push people so hard for so long before they need a rest or else they break down (physically/mentally).
This is a definite officer safety problem.
rb
1/17/2010 12:51:00 AM
I broke down a few years ago, now I nap a lot and drive around and back up my co-workers. That's it.
And will hide like with safe streets, because they "can't go to court", because they work in the commander's office or on the desk.
Or like on holidays when they are given the option by the Commander to work. So they are put on a car (usually with another house mouse), and then given some made up, bullshit detail of which they cannot be taken off of so the dispatcher is told not to give them any jobs.
Saturation and Gun Teams soon to be disbanded. A lot of personnel and vehicles heading back to the districts. Level 2 DOC will be covered by tac and rapid response cars. Deputy chief will also have to send all sworn personnel in his office except for two P.O.'s back to the district for street duty. This is coming down soon per Dugan.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Don't bet on it. Especially with the CLOCK WATCHER that occupies the area 3 Deputy Chief seat. He has to have his entourage.
Boys and Girls, I have bad news for you, in the way of backlogs and RAPS, they have been there forever and no matter how many police you put in a district they are still going to happen. 18 years ago when I hit the streets, they beefed up the department to the tune of 16,000+. Do you know what the dispatchers first words to me were when I turned on my radio..."Beat 21.. get your crayon out, I got a bunch waiting for you." The problem is that we take all these goofy calls from Joe Citizen. Kids playing ball in the street, loud music, barking dogs, number 2 parkers, suspicious vehicle wno. These are calls that should not even be dispatched. We deal with crime, not kids making too much noise bouncing a ball. It is time to re-evaluate what calls we respond to and what we don't. Only problem is that Joe Citizen knows the game too, and all of a sudden it is "man with a gun playing ball in the street." Bottom line is that we will always be overworked, underpaid, and understaffed. There ain't no changing that. It sucks, but it is what it is. So all of us working the streets, day in and day out, need to watch out for each other, back each other up and do what we can, when we can. Don't be a dogass, but don't go out there and get yourself killed either. Most importantly, watch your ass...figurtively, physically, mentally, and legally.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7EOanLALO8
That's an interesting video. Almost like dude taping it was hoping to catch an improper response from the po-po. (another example of "always assume you are on camera") Glad they showed some restraint. I hope lots of arrests were made.
Police hiring should be an on-going process to cover the always happening attrition.
The problem is that the City management is in daily crisis mode, handling today's problem. Police hiring is complicated (Design a test, recruit, test, evaluate, screen, fight lawsuits, etc) So city just puts the issue in a drawer, hoping it will go away. But it does not.
The handling of day-to-day issues has ceased. The people that work for the city have to incentive or morale because putting forth effort, unless you have clout will get you crushed. ~50 police hired in 2009, when the city lost close to 500. Total incompetence. And since Daley's sock puppet is now in the White House, so will go the rest of the country.
when they take up A COLLECTION TO HELP " THE IRISH CHILDREN FAMILY FUND" FOR THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN UNDER ENGLISH RULE FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS LIVING IN POVERTY (ALMOST THIRD WORLD CONDITIONS ) I'LL BEGIN TO THEN THINK OF THOSE IN HAITI.
Its called get your ass up and work. Quit blaming the English. Neither will get a penny from me.
O.K. here's what we'll do. We'll take all the furlough days possible without pay. They we'll work special employment at time and a half and make a ton.
This probably make as much sense as anything else this stupid city and the prople who run it implement.
Poor Irish children?
Dumbfuck.
Ireland was booming just before the recent downturn. One of my Irish cousins was mugged. By a Chinese immigrant worker. In freaking Dublin.
Ireland isn't that bad off anymore.
Even the Catholics and Protestants of the Northern part of the Ireland have been doing relatively well lately. Not as well as in the Republic, but ok. They are still hung up on stupid sectarian religious issues and one of their top politicians was caught in an affair with a 19 year old boy.
Yep, female pol, 19 year old kid. I guess she's too old to be a MILF, so GILF will have to do.
If you don't want to donate to Haiti don't donate. That's your right.
Don't pull some sorry excuse out of your ass to justify your decision. You don't need to justify your decision. It's your decision. It's your money. Spend it as you choose.
I donate blood nearly as often as possible. I don't wonder if the blood is going to my fellow ethnic Irish or not. I do it because it makes me feel like I am accomplishing something good. That's a feeling I often lack in my work life well into my 3rd decade with the CPD.
As for the video of the fight on 4200 Milwaukee Avenue is that the normal clientele there? Did the Portage Theater have some event that brought those street brawlers out?
I never would have expected to see that there. Maybe a gaggle of drunken Euro trash fighting, but not refugees from the West Side.
Oh well. Life is like a box of chocolates. Sometimes you have to deal with the vanilla trash and sometimes you have to deal with the chocolate trash.
Anonymous said...
HOW ABOUT WE DO THIS:LETS HAVE TAC TEAMS ANSWER PRIORITY 1-A JOBS!THEY GO ANYWAY AND IF THEY GRAB THE UUW,CRACK,OR BURGLARY OFFENDER THEY TAKE IT ANYWAY ,SO ASSIGN IT TO THEM!!ALSO WE HAVE TRU AND MOBILE STRIKE FORCE OUT THERE AND WE R IN A BACKLOG ALL NIGHT !SIMPLE ANSWER IS HAVE THEM ANSWERING CALLS FO SERVICE ON THE ZONE!THEY CAN HUNT BETWWEEN CALLS IF THEY WISH!PROBLEM SOLVED!BETTER YET MAN THE DISTRICTS
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Well this may not be a bad idea to downsize the Tact teams...
YOU DON'T NEED THEM!
Why?
Just guys doing foolish arrests and search warrants that in years past have hampered Federal investigations (Wires, surveillances etc.)
These hard chargers have cost many man hours and lots of money to taxpayers as they screw up other agencies investigations. Also while creating havoc with the rise in public corruption and internal investigations from unknown/unamed CR.'s throughout the City.
Do more with less? Why not since these sandbagging, stat and number getters have really became uneccessary since Jody Weis has taken over and people on the job have slowed down!
Realistically each watch could just out a power car or two to do the work of what 30-40 people shuffling in and out of some office to act like they are busy locking people up.
Signed
Looking for someone to notice my "Huberman"like skills!
OT:To the copper that pulled over my girlfriend today near central and 55 around 4:15pm. THANK YOU. You gave her a warning for blowing a red light. I appreciate your kindness and all the work you do.
SCC:
I just wathced the Capitol Club video of the fight in 016. I would like all the police officers and citizens as well, to know that this place has been protected by that fat ass Levar for over 20 years. The owner Chester is his good buddy. Every time there is a beef there, it magically gets taken care of by this asshole. And believe me, there have been many. You guys remember Levar, he's the Alderman that watched a police officer arrest a resister in a restaurant and then claimed he didn't see anything. Thanks for nothing you jagoff!
1/17/2010 08:11:00 PM
I once watched that fat slob down two steak sandwiches at Booby's in Niles. He went outside and couldn't breathe but kept saying he would be ok if he could vomit.
Daley's goal is to reduce the total number of sworn police officers to 7,000. Just watch, it will happen.We will be down to 7,000 in about 3-4 years.
It is cheaper to pay overtime then to hire new people. Everybody wins here. We make more money and the City saves money.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7EOanLALO8
"That's an interesting video. Almost like dude taping it was hoping to catch an improper response from the po-po. (another example of "always assume you are on camera") Glad they showed some restraint. I hope lots of arrests were made."
Agreed! Good tactics, nice balance between stick and shock(threat of)..Did not appear that any POs were injured. Great job!
Boys and Girls, I have bad news for you, in the way of backlogs and RAPS, they have been there forever and no matter how many police you put in a district they are still going to happen. 18 years ago when I hit the streets, they beefed up the department to the tune of 16,000+.........
What department were you working for? Never in Chicago was it beefed up. Always been budgeted for 13,000 since forever.
Anonymous said...
OT:To the copper that pulled over my girlfriend today near central and 55 around 4:15pm. THANK YOU. You gave her a warning for blowing a red light. I appreciate your kindness and all the work you do.
1/17/2010 10:56:00 PM
Was that a female that works at a restaurant in the burbs? If so your welcome and she was a very nice girl your a lucky guy!
WHY IN GOD'S NAME WOULD YOU RETIRE IF YOU WERE A LT? 120,000 PER YEAR...
TO DO NOTHING! OK THEY HAVE TO SHOW UP I WILL GIVE THEM THAT. AT LEAST 4 HOURS PER DAY ANYWAY!
THEY'RE ALREADY R.O.D.
RETIRED ON DUTY
18 years ago when I hit the streets, they beefed up the department to the tune of 16,000+.
Sorry but this dept. has NEVER been over 13,500 EVER.
Anonymous said...
Daley's goal is to reduce the total number of sworn police officers to 7,000. Just watch, it will happen.We will be down to 7,000 in about 3-4 years.
1/17/2010 11:52:00 PM
Thank God I will be retired and living somewhere else by then! God help the rest of you.
Stay safe, it isn't worth getting hurt out there, your family needs you.
Anonymous said...
Poor Irish children?
Dumbfuck.
Ireland was booming just before the recent downturn. One of my Irish cousins was mugged. By a Chinese immigrant worker. In freaking Dublin.
Ireland isn't that bad off anymore.
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”I have been assured by a very knowing American of my acquaintance in London, that a young healthy (Irish) child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled ...”
For Preventing The Children of Poor People in Ireland From Being A burden to Their Parents or Country, and For Making Them Beneficial to The Public
By Jonathan Swift
(1729 "A Modest Proposal" a solution to the Irish problem; satire)
Part true part rumor. The Captains union has a grievance in over Lts making time and a half instaed of it being offered to a in district Captain first-they claim its a contractual issue. If they when captains will be allowed to work a whole extra 8 hr shift of split it between the two district captains working that day
the captain at HQ is none other than Lynette Helm, who works for another wonder woman, TRacy Ladner. These two earn a lot of money to sit in the ivory tower and do nothing.
P.S.
There is another captain in hiding at HQ in Data systems.
What would be helpful is if we ONLY respond to 1a jobs... jobs where you really need the police, and now. No more burglar alarms, accidents without injury, dogs off leashes, parking complaints, johnny missed school calls, my neighbor's dog pooped in my yard, etc... You know, the kind of stuff that people should easily solve THEMSELVES by raising their own kid or talking to their neighbor or...calling 311 for a report. Just a thought, but I thought 911 was for EMERGENCY situations...
"the captain at HQ is none other than Lynette Helm, who works for another wonder woman, TRacy Ladner. These two earn a lot of money to sit in the ivory tower and do nothing."
Do nothing??!! Are you kidding me? It takes a lot of work to fuck over coppers and destroy the morale of the entire division. This is a skill that is not easily executed. Ladner and her little mini me captain are a deadly combination - evil and stupid.
Haiti? who the hell ever helps us!!! fucking no one. its a tragedy but we need to stop being the worlds bank and helping every 3rd world shit hole. we have our own problems here to sddress. And like someone already said, we already gave them $100 million of OUR dollars. let the rest of the world step up. oh, and as for the fucked up manpower, just wait for the coming terrorist attacks using our stolen light bars, mark my words, what they are planning will be the worst terrorist attack in history. just wait, thankyou asshole terrorist shit coddling liberals. This is the bed YOU bastards made and were going to have to lie in it. move to France, youve destroyed this country. This is the country my children will have to grow up in. god damn you and Burn in hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
Boys and Girls, I have bad news for you, in the way of backlogs and RAPS, they have been there forever and no matter how many police you put in a district they are still going to happen. 18 years ago when I hit the streets, they beefed up the department to the tune of 16,000+...
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The Department has never been anywhere near 16000. There was a lot of hiring in 1991-1992, but the peak number of personnel was a little over 14000, and that was under Jim Rochford, perhaps late 70's.
As to donations to Haiti, I would prefer the current administration to remember that "Charity begins at home".
Do the math:
Let's see, less police officers, more illegals, more breeding in the low income areas that already don't control their behavior = F*cking DISASTER!!!!!!
Don't forget, Daley has declared us "a sanctuary city", so we take all the unwanted and uneducated from other countries. We, the police, cannot even ask them if they are here LEGALLY when they are arrested doing something ILLEGAL, breaking OUR LAWS. King Daley has made sure we don't impinge in their "rights" as an illegal person who shouldn't even be here causing disruption and breaking laws.
They are bleeding us dry in the hand-out dept. We already have our American-born, multi-generational hand-out demographic, we don't need anymore. The problems we have now will be tenfold and will spread to YOUR neighborhood, it's already happening now. Twenty years from now, English will be a foreign language.
Every voting citizen should do the math, VOTE these idiots out. They will be LONG GONE with the money they stole living in their second and third homes that they built OUTSIDE this city while we will be stuck here in our over-taxed, decreased-valued homes.
Manufacturing has left because the same idiots taxed them out of here. There will only be low paying retail jobs and fast food jobs that the illegals already took over. Even retail will become extinct, because it costs 5.00 for 15 minutes to park your car. Too many now are traveling to the burbs to shop. The travel, hospitality and conventions nose-dived. McPier is bloated with clouted lackeys. Everyone in their trendy condos and lofts in the gold coast, north side, downtown areas will leave because there is no quality education and crime will soon swell into those areas. No more playlots, no more dog parks, gangs will take over. It will happen. We're doomed.
There was a lot of hiring in 85, 86 and 87 that beefed up the department. Many of those hires have retired and will soon retire. I can't believe that the city council, that select group of brainiacs have allowed this to happen. Crime is creeping into the"good neighborhoods" because of section 8 housing and decreased patrols, citizens should be outraged. Oh yea, the guy that heads the police and fire depts will soon go to jail. People, we are living a pathetic joke.
The Department has never been anywhere near 16000. There was a lot of hiring in 1991-1992, but the peak number of personnel was a little over 14000, and that was under Jim Rochford, perhaps late 70's.
TRU story from dad: Jimmie Rochford quit the CPD for a year or two and moved to the shores of Wolf lake in 1972 to become a free-wheelin' private investigator. His trailer trash swamp living lifestyle inspired the hit '70s defective drama "The Rochford Files." James Garner was great in the lead and was a spitting image of Rochford (minus the peg leg). What a great guy!
the only thing that lt's and capt's have to do is show up and give roll call, drive around the block a few times and get an event number, and hope that they don't have to do any trr's.... oh, and also call in fully grown men and women and ask them why they haven't written a mover or parker in two years.... it really sucks when you have to do all the heavy lifting to make the big bucks....
Hey moron,
Tact teams already answer 1A jobs. The primary function of a tact team is numbers. So when we take a 1A job and don't make an arrest, we'll call for the beat car to do the paper. Thanks!
If you donate to the RED CROSS, you will get calls and mailings from them for life. Even if you are on the NATIONAL DO NOT CALL LIST.
And what happened in the DOMINICIAN REPUBLIC, it's on the same island as Haiti??
Anonymous said...
"the captain at HQ is none other than Lynette Helm,
She has to pay the Dept somehow for all of those meritorious promotions
I wonder if she's going to be assigned to a district to alleviate the Capt's shortage
ANSWER: NOT IF HUBERMAN OR BARBARA MCDONALD HAS ANY SAY SO IN THE MATTER!
LETS HAVE TAC TEAMS ANSWER PRIORITY 1-A JOBS!THEY GO ANYWAY AND IF THEY GRAB THE UUW,CRACK,OR BURGLARY OFFENDER THEY TAKE IT ANYWAY
One of the first intelligent posts regarding tact team I've seen on this blog.
You must not be that idiotic ultimate tact warrior.
a.d.s. for nepotism "matty" cline said...
The Department has never been anywhere near 16000. There was a lot of hiring in 1991-1992, but the peak number of personnel was a little over 14000, and that was under Jim Rochford, perhaps late 70's.
TRU story from dad: Jimmie Rochford quit the CPD for a year or two and moved to the shores of Wolf lake in 1972 to become a free-wheelin' private investigator. His trailer trash swamp living lifestyle inspired the hit '70s defective drama "The Rochford Files." James Garner was great in the lead and was a spitting image of Rochford (minus the peg leg). What a great guy!
1/18/2010 11:44:00 AM
Did you try to make a funny or are you that dumb? It was "The Rockford Files"
PAY - TO - PLAY at its finest. No money for troops to hire, but more for the Clouted, so they can duke part of it back to Queen Daley.
The primary function of a tact team is numbers.
How true, 19 Paul and I'll let you know if I get anything.
TO THE MORON:SO U SHOW UP 2 A PRIORITY 1-A JOB AND IF OFFENDER THERE U TAKE OVER JOB!IF NOT U CALL FOR A PAPER CAR? GIVE THE CAR A DISREGARD AND KNOCK OUT A CASE REPORT STUPID!YOUR NOT ABOVE A CASE REPORT!I WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOUR ARREST HISTORY !U DONT IMPRESS ME!
VOTE out LEVAR!!! He's doing NOTHING for his ward and is allowing criminals to start their shit in our own backyard. LEVAR is in Daley's pocket and does nothing for his ward constituents. Look at 6 corners, it's a hellhole and has been for years. What has Levar done for the 6 corners area??NOTHING!!!
the only thing that lt's and capt's have to do is show up and give roll call, drive around the block a few times and get an event number, and hope that they don't have to do any trr's.... oh, and also call in fully grown men and women and ask them why they haven't written a mover or parker in two years.... it really sucks when you have to do all the heavy lifting to make the big bucks....
1/18/2010 11:47:00 AM
Let me guess. Total career on a beat car right? Yeah I know, why bother getting off your ass and studying for a promotional exam. It's all fixed right? F' whiner.
Ok, I stand corrected, it was 16,000+ personnel, sworn + civilian. Now if you would like to see some creative writing and not just a short memory, check out the following site and look at the Annual reports for the past 13 years. It is very interesting reading. Especially the part about manpower.
https://portal.chicagopolice.org/portal/page/portal/ClearPath/News/Statistical%20Reports/Annual%20Reports
"...studying for a promotional exam." - 9:52 PM
IT'S ALL LEGIT. DON'T BOGART THAT JAY, YOU FUCKIN' MORON!
GO 'SHROOMIN' 'TIL YOU ARE NO LONGER DELUSIONAL.
Back in the day,,,,,Commander Paul Jankowski insisted if a tact team took a in-progress (no 1a in those days) job, they did the paper if there was no arrest, none of this "send a car to do the paper" BS.
"Total career on a beat car right?"
Don't say that as if it's a bad thing. Just because someone spends their career pushing a beat car doesn't mean that they have no ambition.
This guy's got other issues.
Anonymous said... they haven't written a mover or parker in two years....
1/18/2010 11:47:00 AM
Willing to bet that you havent either
" total career on a beat car right"--- what's wrong with that... just because you have rank doesn't make you a better man, just someone who makes more money... are you the type of boss who goes into a bar fight with the working police or are you the type who sits in his little office all day hiding.... f**ng pimp...
"the only thing that lt's and capt's have to do is show up and give roll call, drive around the block a few times and get an event number, and hope that they don't have to do any trr's.... oh, and also call in fully grown men and women and ask them why they haven't written a mover or parker in two years.... it really sucks when you have to do all the heavy lifting to make the big bucks...."
Sounds like a fully grown man with some issues. I never needed a Captain or Lieutenant to tell me to write a mover. I worked for my Sergeant, and my reputation. Times sure have changed.
a.d.s. for nepotism "matty" cline said...
The Department has never been anywhere near 16000. There was a lot of hiring in 1991-1992, but the peak number of personnel was a little over 14000, and that was under Jim Rochford, perhaps late 70's.
TRU story from dad: Jimmie Rochford quit the CPD for a year or two and moved to the shores of Wolf lake in 1972 to become a free-wheelin' private investigator. His trailer trash swamp living lifestyle inspired the hit '70s defective drama "The Rochford Files." James Garner was great in the lead and was a spitting image of Rochford (minus the peg leg). What a great guy!
1/18/2010 11:44:00 AM
Did you try to make a funny or are you that dumb? It was "The Rockford Files"
1/18/2010 05:11:00 PM
Have you always been this quick?
Anonymous said...
a.d.s. for nepotism "matty" cline said...
The Department has never been anywhere near 16000. There was a lot of hiring in 1991-1992, but the peak number of personnel was a little over 14000, and that was under Jim Rochford, perhaps late 70's.
TRU story from dad: Jimmie Rochford quit the CPD for a year or two and moved to the shores of Wolf lake in 1972 to become a free-wheelin' private investigator. His trailer trash swamp living lifestyle inspired the hit '70s defective drama "The Rochford Files." James Garner was great in the lead and was a spitting image of Rochford (minus the peg leg). What a great guy!
1/18/2010 11:44:00 AM
Did you try to make a funny or are you that dumb? It was "The Rockford Files"
1/18/2010 05:11:00 PM
Have you always been this quick?
1/19/2010 07:03:00 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if the poster made a mistake on Rochford with all the blockheaded posts I've seen on this blog. Mispellings, wrong context etc. This from people mostly with 60 hours of college. And those are the ones smart enough to find the blog and type something in. So no, it wasn't any slowness, I just don't underestimate the lack of mental ability on this department.
>>>>TRU story from dad: Jimmie Rochford quit the CPD for a year or two and moved to the shores of Wolf lake in 1972 to become a free-wheelin' private investigator. His trailer trash swamp living lifestyle inspired the hit '70s defective drama "The Rochford Files." James Garner was great in the lead and was a spitting image of Rochford (minus the peg leg). What a great guy!
1/18/2010 11:44:00 AM
Did you try to make a funny or are you that dumb? It was "The Rockford Files"<<<<
James Rochford was the last real streetwise Superintendent we had.
Look what we have had then, and yes, I worked for him, and Richard J. Daley and every one since them.
When he retired, Rochford went to work for BALLY Manufacturing, the people who make the slot and gambling machines.
When Richard J. Daley passsed away, he unfortuantely left sons John, William and Richard M. Daley. Well you know what they did to Chicago, Cook County and our country.
Anonymous said...
Hey moron,
Tact teams already answer 1A jobs. The primary function of a tact team is numbers. So when we take a 1A job and don't make an arrest, we'll call for the beat car to do the paper. Thanks!
1/18/2010 12:20:00 PM
*********************************** And just where that might be written?
"times sure have changed"-- you bet they have--- you took care of your sgt mr company man but did your sgt take care of you--- maybe twenty years ago but not now.... every man for himself and if you do not agree with this statement, wait until you get in trouble and see how many friends you have.....
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