Police Shooting
- A 19-year-old man was shot and seriously wounded in an incident Saturday night that preliminary information indicated might have involved an exchange of gunfire with police.
Chicago Fire Department paramedics were sent to the scene of a shooting in the 6100 block of South Prairie Avenue at about 10:25 p.m., said fire spokesman [...]
The 19-year-old man was taken to Stroger Hospital in serious condition with two apparent bullet wounds, he said. It was not clear how the man was shot, but initial information said there had been an exchange of gunfire involving the Police Department...
Nothing further at the moment.
UPDATE: Once again, a scumbag out on bail for a previous weapon charge who manages to get his hands on another weapon. A big thanks to Anita and the Cook County State's Attorneys! You suck!
UPDATE: Once again, a scumbag out on bail for a previous weapon charge who manages to get his hands on another weapon. A big thanks to Anita and the Cook County State's Attorneys! You suck!
Labels: shooting
posted by SCC at 1:05 AM
88 Comments:
First shooting with an M4? Good job all out there.
Coppers okay; bad guy shot twice. gun recovered, get away car found. good shoot. scumbag tried to execute the police. it's a war zone out there and jody and dick refuse to not only give us more manpower that is needed, they keep tightening the reins from us being able to do police work. Thank God the coppers are okay. This one was a close one, too close for comfort.
Listen to J-Fled's excuse for running the other way on the unsolved fatal shooting of Reginald Myers only 45 seconds away.
http://townhall.com/talkradio/show.aspx?radioshowid=25.
Click on "listen" for minutes 24:32 through 28:25.
Either he resigns in disgrace or fire the COWARD.
P.S.: Bill Cozzi's birthday is April 30.
die shit die...
IR1764628 HE GONE! cops ok.offender was due in court in June for uuw. guess he won't make it. pointed gun at officer and sgt carrying rifles.... oops.
Sounds like a good shoot! Great job on radio getting info out and keeping composure! Stay safe
Just watch this video and see how quickly things change. Just your everday traffic stop.
Stay safe
http://www.ravallirepublic.com/html_5fee0ea8-4750-11df-9e30-001cc4c03286.html
Due to increases in violent crime, the audacity of late to take on the police and most importantly the ill-conceived notion of policing that J-Fled has (specialized units chasing dots on a computer screen) expect more police shootings and dare I say - the possible loss of another brother in blue. I pray each day that someone downtown, anyone, gathers the nerve to thud J-Fled's forehead and tell him he's wrong in his notion of policing. You need 2-man cars in all districts from dusk to dawn and you need to give the district commanders their full complement of manpower (decrease or eliminate the specialized units) and hold their feet to the fire to get the job done in their districts. The NIMBY principle that's being applied now will never work and never has. You can't succeed by pushing crime around and that is what the "new" violence initiative will do. I just hope some cop doesn't have to prove it with his life. God Bless us all.
How about that 10-1 last night in 016, Over a 1,000 fighting? 4200 N central ave. Wow is it summer yet?
Had to call cars from 017,020,024,025. But it sounds like most cars were waived off by the time they got there. Nice job officers and go home safe. All from a church.
Why is this guy on the street with pending weapons charges?
Good Job by offices and glad they're okay. Score one for us. Also thank you for saving us another million dollars or so in lifetime public aid.
COPS WIN! COPS WIN! COPS WIN!
WOW!
YA CAN'T BEAT FUN AT THE OLD BALLPARK!
KEEP YOURSELF SAFE OFFICERS
1st person killed with the AR-15!! Dinners on me!
He gone
The story has been updated...the shithead has since died. Glad to hear no POs were injured.
Great job officers another pos in the ground wonder now if his "pants are really in the ground" Thank GOD all officers are safe and he is DEAD!! Be careful Skilling says a warm weekend coming up!
Was on the scene. Very good job by all who assisted. All officers are ok and one shithead shot by police with the carbine. It's going to be a long hot summer. Every squad should be equipped with an M4. The hell with this power test and all the bs that you have to go thru to carry one. As long as you can qualify with the damn thing is all that matters. Asshole had a 40 caliber glock and fired every single round trying to kill the police. Be safe out there.
On the transfer order it looks like they are cleaning house at the academy.
5.56 mm, it's a beautiful thing... WE NEED THESE LIFESAVING TOOLS, J-Fled, Lift the power test requirement, put a stop on all the nonsense training, and detail some former infantrymen or special forces guys to do a crash course of mostly range time. Get those rifles out there!
It's always a great job when the police go home the same way the arrived.
As for dude, fuck him!
It's not the SA's office that sets bail for these douchebags, it's the judges. The judges are for the most part useless, clueless hacks. They should never ever set a low bond on a UUW case yet they do over and over. RIP Off. Valadez.
sorry, he wasn't the first person killed with an M4 by Chicago Police.
Good Job and good riddance
How about that 10-1 last night in 016, Over a 1,000 fighting? 4200 N central ave. Wow is it summer yet?
Had to call cars from 017,020,024,025. But it sounds like most cars were waived off by the time they got there. Nice job officers and go home safe. All from a church.
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Let's not forget that 019 responded as well. All at a Mexican wedding. Tremendous response, when I fianlly walked out of the hall & saw nothing but blue, it was impressive, to say the least. Thanks to ALL the units that responded. It could have been much worse. Stay safe.
1661A
1st person killed with the AR-15!! Dinners on me!
Nope,about 2/3 years ago a guy from swat took out a nut case that
killed a couple lawyers in their downtown office on Madison.
retired............. and loving it.
How about that 10-1 last night in 016, Over a 1,000 fighting? 4200 N central ave. Wow is it summer yet?
Had to call cars from 017,020,024,025. But it sounds like most cars were waived off by the time they got there. Nice job officers and go home safe. All from a church.
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Damn I missed that one must off fell asleep, I usually have my scanner running 24/7. Just like to say thank you to all officers and dispatchers for their behind the scene work keeping the city safe as possible, and for the countless hours of pure listening entertainment. You guys prevail any reality show, just like a sports fanatic yelling at the TV I'm yelling at my radio get the SOB!!
Stay safe out there while Rome is burning.
What's going on in 016 last night? Anybody have the story?
Mean average of Chicago's IQ just bounded up 13 points! Shitbird expired. Not only do we save on lifetime support for dumbass, he loses out on passing on his defective genes. It's a win-win-win for society. He will no longer be a liability to the hood!
And another one's gone....another one's gone...ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!!!!
"How about that 10-1 last night in 016, Over a 1,000 fighting? 4200 N central ave. Wow is it summer yet"
The cpd chopper should be equipped with daisy cutters, for situations like this. I'm just saying.
What happened last night in 16 by berteau and central. I heard all types of cops out around 1130.
PS we in portage park appreciate the police keep us safe from the shitheads....
Seems like an appropriate use of department issued rifles.
I've been firing weapons for almost 30 years, starting at age 17 in the Army, and I've never been all that good with a handgun.
Now give me a rifle and anything less than 100 yards and I can hit my target most of the time.
Glad to see the bad guy is no more. To paraphrase Monty Python:
His metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the
bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-BANGER!
Dead banger. No cops or bystanders hurt. Buy those cops a round and a new parrot.
below is a comment from the trib:
jay on April 25, 2010 2:39 PM
Why not just hire the police officers that the city needs. This paper fails to understand and report that the Chicago Police Department is currently several hundred officers short of the number that the city council and police union state are required to properly police this city. Daley finds the money to put his name everywhere and to fund his special interest programs, but no money for the police department. Also we have a city where the everyday law abbiding citizen cant own a gun, but the gang bangers can.
Listen to J-Fled's excuse for running the other way on the unsolved fatal shooting of Reginald Myers only 45 seconds away.
http://townhall.com/talkradio/show.aspx?radioshowid=25.
Click on "listen" for minutes 24:32 through 28:25.
Either he resigns in disgrace or fire the COWARD.
P.S.: Bill Cozzi's birthday is April 30.
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What a fucking liar. Truly unbelievable that this guy would say that he didn't even hear the gunfire, when the video shows him reacting to it. Thanks for posting that John, see you at the V.
Good job in 016. Vehicular carjacking in 014 where taxi taken at gunpoint by m/1, bad guy caught 6308 blk n. central in taxi with gun. 016 is falling fast, get ready 016 po's. Good job at 10-1.
What was up with the 10-1 in 016? Something get out of hand with the Romanian church? Wedding party get crazy at Biaggo's?
Hossa found Not Gulity....
Once agin, plaintiffs' lawyers reported injured in a melee that broke out in the Stroger Hospital parking lot, as crazed ambulance chasers sought to be the first to reach the "victim's" family to sign 'em up for the the million dollar lawsuit.
016 is quickly becoming a ghetto district. 016 is getting worse by the day because a lot of illegals and a lot of hispanic gangs are moving in. Plus you also have some shitheads from the south side are moving into the 16th district.
I talked to some shitheads who live by 6600 North Sacramento in 024 and they told me "you can make a lot of money up north and plus there is less police in the north side". There you have it.
The winners will be the criminals. The losers will be the honest hardworking citizen.
What can be done to "nudge" Cook County Judges into applying appropriate Bonds on violent offenders? Specially UUW cases.
just asking
OT: The national guard???
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/04/state-reps-want-to-fight-violence-with-national-guards-help.html
The mayor should be embarrassed and should step down.
Dear Superintendent, I know you read this blog.
Why can't everyone carry a rifle if they want to?
Why do we have to pass a POWER test?
Why can't I go to rifle school?
I heard the lackey in News Affairs saying that the POWER test standard was to protect the officer in case someone tried to take the rifle away--what a bunch of horseshit !!!!
I spent 8 years in the USMC, 3 as a weapons instructor to Boots at Edson Range, Camp Pendleton CA. I shot expert at all qual's then and could probably still do if I spent some time snapping in.
I have fired M4s since on a regular basis.
I now have a bum knee (duty related) so I can't pass your precious test, but I can still shoot the anus out of a flea at 50 yards with a 55 grain .223 round out of a Rock River M4 in all wind conditions.
With us being so short handed, why won't you let us protect ourselves?
Please answer us. I am quite certain that any of the hundreds, if not thousands, of former and current military on the job could handle a rifle and I'd bet we'll all be better shots than you are.
st person killed with the AR-15!! Dinners on me!
Nope,about 2/3 years ago a guy from swat took out a nut case that
killed a couple lawyers in their downtown office on Madison.
retired............. and loving it.
first person killed by a carbine since the operator course was introduced to PO's.
Alluding to the 1970 Kent State University incident where the National Guard was called in and protestors and students were shot, Weis said having guardsmen handle crime could be "disastrous." But he said if the Daley suggested it, he would consider the option.
YES,WE MUST KISS THAT ASS AND NOT EVEN THINK OF PISSING OFF THE PUPPET MASTER. DISGUSTING.
The measure of a coward ???
For the people who are not familiar with Chicago's streets
the average city block measures approximately 660 feet by 330 feet.
Going from the corner of Paulina
to Marshfield in the vicinity of 80th street (Gresham District) means one has to travel the short distance, that is the 330 feet.
Divide the feet by three and you find that the total yardage is about 110 yards , more or less.
A fully ladened police officer can most likely, on foot, run 100 yards in less than 20 seconds. That's by the slowest estimate and without adrenalin to assist.
With this in mind, and facts supporting, once shots were heard being fired within 110 yards away
J-fled could have been on or within a distance to secure a crime scene h and protect others had he run towards the sound of gunshots and not away from them.
A leader in this case, supposing that he/she were an experienced Chicago police officer, might have had the wherewithal to command nearby officers to secure the north bound avenues of egress while the leader secure the southbound.
Not say,"I gotta run".
Police officers KNOW when they are close to a shooting offender. They cautiously advance toward the sound of shots and, while approaching are continuously alert for the fleeing suspect/s.
They do not RUN! (away)
J-Fled can attempt to fool the media and their ill informed readers or viewers but he cannot fool the working men and women beside him on the scene.
A coward they assigned to him a coward he is.
Signed,
The empty cylinder.
Who-the-fuck is supplying these firearms? Let's find out and prosecute the bastards.
Asshole had a 40 caliber glock and fired every single round trying to kill the police. Be safe out there.
4/25/2010 10:28:00 AM
Thank God the asshole's bullits had a another agenda. .40 cal is not easily stopped by our vests. It's gonna hurt when it hits.
June 1st is Valadez' anniversary. Be careful, please.
Empty Cylinder post script:
I forgot to point out to the citizen reader that ..."On View"
shots fired are real time, on the scene, happenings.
There is no lag time preceeding the event of response. For example , no dispatcher has to be called and then be required to re-broadcast the information to the field units.
This DOES take time, especially on busy evenings...in fact today, more often than not, a lot of time.
But
J-Fled was acting in REAL TIME.
How could he be 45 seconds away???
He was within 110 yards. Is he that slow?
He mentioned he has some Military connection???
Does he recall the proceedure soldiers are taught when they are caught in an ambush?
Run towards the sounds of fire and the flashes into the safety cones of minimal enemy coverage.
He's all smoke and mirrors.
Retired John N. is correct. He did perform in a cowardly manner not to address the citizen's safety during a potentially deadly scenario.
Insane Post Hole Digger said...
5.56 mm, it's a beautiful thing... WE NEED THESE LIFESAVING TOOLS, J-Fled, Lift the power test requirement, put a stop on all the nonsense training, and detail some former infantrymen or special forces guys to do a crash course of mostly range time. Get those rifles out there!
4/25/2010 10:45:00 AM
Give a rifle to those young Iraq vets recently hired by CPD.
Semper Fi!
22 feb 2011, next mayoral election
14 sept 2010, first day to circulate petitions
13 dec 2010, last day to circulate, and deadline to file.
Need 12,500 signatures.
Term starts 04 may 2011
term ends 04 may 2015
who is going to step up and run?
Register to vote and get out and vote.
This city is a sinking ship.
Time is short!!!
Firefighters and police officers rated as most stressful jobs in America.
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My spouse is an exempt who hates J-Fled. Inner circle bosses say that of all the nicknames for the coward, the one that gets him worst is not WEISel or J-Fed.
It's "J-FLED". It drives him crazy. Congrats to whoever came up with J-FLED. It says it all.
J-FLED J-FLED J-FLED J-FLED
J-FLED GOTTA RUN
O.T.
Chicago Democrats John Fritchey and LaShawn Ford said they want Quinn, Mayor Richard Daley and Chicago Police Supt. Jody Weis to allow guardsmen to patrol streets and help quell violence. Weis said he did not support the idea because the military and police operate under different rules...
And Mayor Shortshanks doesn't want any gangbangers abused. J-Flake can just walk up to the gang leaders and tell them to "Knock it off." How about a picnic for gangbangers and the CPD? What about a new program: Adopt-A-Dude. Every P.O. would be responsible for providing food, clothing, shelter, money and ammo for his "Dude." It would be a great way to build a rapport with former enemies. And a P.O. could mentor an errant gangbanger like when he attacks two innocent women with a baseball bat, or stabs an elderly jogger on the Riverwalk. The P.O. could point out that when it comes to attacking innocent women it isn't necessary to use an aluminum bat, a wooden one will do. It would be a small step towards healing hurt feelings and Shortshanks and the Coward of the County would love it.
Aside from SWAT, this is the first confirmed kill with the m4. One of the area gang teams had the first shooting with the m4 but CFD was kind enough to revive him. Good job by all the officers, glad everyone is safe.
It was the Natl. Guard, their here already,
So I hurt my knee badly on duty a few years ago jumping a fence and it hasn't been the same since. I still work out everyday but have to do low impact aerobics (swimming) because my knee can't handle the running. I can't pass the run for the power test. So the same department that I hurt myself working for won't allow me to carry a carbine because I can't run distance? (And for the haters that think I SHOULD be able to run in case of foot chases etc.. if I ever have to chase someone for a mile and a half it will make history.) Makes sense. FU j-fled.
I was kind of hoping the city would go with the 7.62mm full metal jacketed and a M60 before I retired. I still think I could take one of those apart and maintain it.
old retired guy
Just a little update: The shitbag's family tore up St. Rogers Hospital when they heard "DA POLICE KILT POOKIE!" They then proceeded to the Morgue, abour forty or so strong demanding to get inside to see "Pookie". When they were refused entry, they started acting like themselves again. Cars from 12, 13, 11, and GEU called to scene, but the animals left with a show of force. Great response!! My question is, were they trying to get in to assist with the autopsy? I thought they were studying brain surgery this semester, my bad!! BE SAFE
SEND IN THE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD CPD IS UNDER MANNED AND OUT GUNNED! NG has better leaders than police exempt Gold Star Hacks that are out of touch and cant speak up to Da mayor
Why is the Supt getting paid for 2 jobs when he only does one
I think people are wondering if it was the first M4 shoot by regular blue shirt patrol officers since we were allowed to carry them. We know SWAT has used them in the past. So, was it?
Anonymous said...
1st person killed with the AR-15!! Dinners on me!
Nope,about 2/3 years ago a guy from swat took out a nut case that
killed a couple lawyers in their downtown office on Madison.
retired............. and loving it.
4/25/2010 12:23:00 PM
Actualy SWAT has popped a couple-three with the carbine.
I think they are refering to nonSWAT officers engaging an attempted murderer with the carbine.
But who cares, the good guys went home safe and boo boo is in the ice box.
"22 feb 2011, next mayoral election
14 sept 2010, first day to circulate petitions
13 dec 2010, last day to circulate, and deadline to file.
Need 12,500 signatures.
Term starts 04 may 2011
term ends 04 may 2015
who is going to step up and run?
Register to vote and get out and vote.
This city is a sinking ship.
Time is short!!!
4/25/2010 06:48:00 PM"
better go for 50,000 signatures.
do i have to tell you why?
Now give me a rifle and anything less than 100 yards and I can hit my target most of the time.
dude, your kidding right, sounds like a lousy shot to me, better spend more time practicing with that rifle if you can hit targets under 100 yards most of the time.
J-Fled seriously needs to drop the power test requirement for the m-4, enough is enough already...
Everyone knows it is a stupid requirement, END IT FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR OFFICERS!!!
Good Job....Stay safe
I still prefer my Shotgun
Will the let me have it without a power test?
Jody, you can save a bit of face and respect of the officers by lifting the power test. I carry one and have never had to run someone down with it. This is a great tool and it should be offered to all. I personally know officers that are excellent shots with an M-4 type carbine, but due to job related injury cannot pass that test. I know this will fall on deaf ears, I just had to say something about it none the less.
how about tripling, or quadrupling, Illinois prisons....then, increasing prison time by a factor of two or three, then, getting rid of Cook County Felony Review....just for starters....after that, we'll work on the illegals....
On the transfer order it looks like they are cleaning house at the academy.
4/25/2010 10:45:00 AM
yea, someone left the academy to go to asset forfeiture. Clout rules.
Sgt Elmer Fudd got his wabbit!!!
Um, if someone pointed an M4 at me, I don't give 2 f*cks how far/close you are. When was the last time someone outran a bullet?I ain't running!
Lift the restrictions. If you can field strip it, shoot it and heft it, then you should be able to carry it!
Mommy is saying the police planted the gun ! If this is true which officer emptied the gun firing at his partner..OMG,SO FUCKIN DUMB !!
Anonymous said...
016 is quickly becoming a ghetto district. 016 is getting worse by the day because a lot of illegals and a lot of hispanic gangs are moving in. Plus you also have some shitheads from the south side are moving into the 16th district.
I talked to some shitheads who live by 6600 North Sacramento in 024 and they told me "you can make a lot of money up north and plus there is less police in the north side". There you have it.
The winners will be the criminals. The losers will be the honest hardworking citizen.
4/25/2010 05:07:00 PM
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Maybe it's about time the northwest side police become a little less "re-active" and a little more "pro-active"?
5.56 mm, it's a beautiful thing... WE NEED THESE LIFESAVING TOOLS, J-Fled, Lift the power test requirement, put a stop on all the nonsense training, and detail some former infantrymen or special forces guys to do a crash course of mostly range time. Get those rifles out there!
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cpd uses the carbine with .223 not 5.56.... just sayin
Scumbag's momma says her son was murdered by the pooolice. When do we get to see the photo of the little tyke wearing his mortar board?
According to the Sun-Slimes:
Cops return gunfire, kill Hyde Park teen
April 26, 2010
BY CHERYL V. JACKSON Staff Reporter
Hyde Park High School athlete Izael Jackson was excited about the coming months that would see him attend prom, graduate and head for Edward Waters College, his mother said.
His prom suit was being made and she was preparing to buy him the Prada shoes he'd requested, Octavia Mitchell said.
But Saturday night, the 18-year old was gunned down by Chicago Police after he allegedly fired shots at officers in the South Side Woodlawn neighborhood.....
It's too late for WEISel, Masters or RayRay to make any moves that anyone here would deem intelligent or considerate. Whatever they decide to do with the M4 physical qualifications, everyone will still see him as a bum.
"22 feb 2011, next mayoral election
14 sept 2010, first day to circulate petitions
13 dec 2010, last day to circulate, and deadline to file.
Need 12,500 signatures.
Term starts 04 may 2011
term ends 04 may 2015
who is going to step up and run?
Register to vote and get out and vote.
This city is a sinking ship.
Time is short!!!
This is VERY INFORMATIVE. Whoever did this we need to thank. Suggestion to get the ball rolling. I'm begging. Can we get together and name a few police officers or low level supervisors (Sgt's or Lt'S only)that we may support in a run for the office of Mayor. (Eventually we will decide on one) SCC, please make this it's own thread. Seriously, I remember a few months ago we alomost pulled off getting signatures in a few weeks. Lets nominate on of our own and then support him/her. We can make history people and dethrone the king. I have never been more serious about anything in my life. There are plenty of educated, talented, good hearted people on this job that can make a difference. Call me a dreamer but I think we can make this a reality. I'm certain that Northside would assist. For our own benefit, please people. Wake up!
cpd uses the carbine with .223 not 5.56.... just sayin
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Speak for yourself! Green tips penetrate more!
Every Officer should carry the M4. F&@% the power test.... ect. We need more of these weapons out there now to compete with the mo-fo's on the street.
cpd uses the carbine with .223 not 5.56.... just sayin
5.56 is the NATO designation for the .223, if you buy a box of this ammo it will have both of these calibers listed on the box. Not being a smart ass, just FYI.
Anonymous said...
5.56 mm, it's a beautiful thing... WE NEED THESE LIFESAVING TOOLS, J-Fled, Lift the power test requirement, put a stop on all the nonsense training, and detail some former infantrymen or special forces guys to do a crash course of mostly range time. Get those rifles out there!
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cpd uses the carbine with .223 not 5.56.... just sayin
4/26/2010 12:16:00 PM
You must not be the Police. This is not true. If you are the Police, you better call the range or go back to carbine school....
Hey 12.16pm .223cal is the same at 5.56mm.
.223 is civilian name for the ammo. 5.56 is the military designation as well as NATO's. Same round for the ballistic challenged.
So now the big question:
Was the car these coppers were ridnng in have a gun rack in the trunk, and why wasn't the rifle in the rack if so equipped. IPRA has already been out to MSF to look atone of the two cars involved. Please don't tell me that they are going to wack the guys for carrying the rifle inside of the car. if it was in the trunk, this guy would be alive because he ran and the cops probably would have missed him with them shooting at him with handguns, Another Fuck the troops attitude.
Anonymous said...
cpd uses the carbine with .223 not 5.56.... just sayin
5.56 is the NATO designation for the .223, if you buy a box of this ammo it will have both of these calibers listed on the box. Not being a smart ass, just FYI.
4/26/2010 10:11:00 PM
Anonymous said...
Hey 12.16pm .223cal is the same at 5.56mm.
4/26/2010 11:25:00 PM
Anonymous said...
.223 is civilian name for the ammo. 5.56 is the military designation as well as NATO's. Same round for the ballistic challenged.
4/27/2010 12:49:00 PM
I hope none of you are carrying an M-4!
.223 is very different from 5.56. Thankfully all the approved M-4's are chambered for 5.56 ammo, if you fired a 5.56 in a weapon chambered for .223 you would risk damaging your weapon and your face!
Due to the length of the 5.56 round, it would not "chamber" or "seat" completely in a .223 chambered weapon, thereby igniting outside the chamber causing brass fragmentation/expansion, which would be normally contained inside the chamber.
However a .223 can be fired in a 5.56 chambered weapon as it is shorter and fully contained in the chamber whereas all gasses from the igniting round is expelled down the barrel and gas tube where it is needed (the M-4 is a gas operated weapon). No explosion in the ejection port!
They should have taught you this instead of taking a stupid fucking POWER TEST!!! But maybe you'll need that 1.5 mile running skill to runaway from the bad guy whose weapon is still functioning properly while your M-4 is on the ground looking like a looney tune exploding cigar!
SUA SPONTE
Hmmmm...
5.56 is good enough for most "government" work though our personal preferrence is 7.62 frangible or "zippy" 125gr. for urban Police type use... Hornady TAP for example. (Damn expensive compared to military surplus/commercial ball though.)
Ya gotta hit the target though!
Wounding doesn't count... unless it's a 500gr. .58 caliber Minie Ball.
Glad the Police came out on top.
The mean & killing season is upon us... Do what you need to do to go home.
Lol at the "...Looney Toon exploding cigar."
We think the late and good Col. Cooper noted it as "spontaneous disassembly" or as some would call it, K-B!
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