Reorganizing Again?
From the comments:
- OT, order came out tonight. Counter terrorism and Intel is now under the Supt.s office. What the fu*& is goin on? Pretty soon the Supt. Office will be one of the largest units on the department. Another Masters power grab?
And word just in that all Deputy Chief offices have been cut down to two Officers and a Sergeant, total. No more Gun Teams, Project Safe Neighborhood teams, Saturation Teams, or Abandoned Building Officers - everything has been farmed out to other units.
If true, this would mark something like the fourth or fifth major reorganization of the Bureaus and Divisions. It would also make the Deputy Chiefs just about completely irrelevant.
Who has the scoop? What's brewing?
If true, this would mark something like the fourth or fifth major reorganization of the Bureaus and Divisions. It would also make the Deputy Chiefs just about completely irrelevant.
Who has the scoop? What's brewing?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
71 Comments:
The Public Transportation Unit was taken out of Investigative Services and is now placed under the Supt. office. Why???
Change = Progress.
Doesn't it?
Do we even have many Deputy Chief spots anymore?
Whats Brewing ? Just watch the comments here flow !
Well, one PSN team did'nt go to OCD. The PSN team from area four has serious issues and won't be going. Take this to the bank.
This is off topic, but it seems that Daley knew something when he stated that governments could go bankrupt then re-organize in order to meet pension obligations.
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/as-states'-budget-woes-mount-congress-starts-talking-bankruptcy-535841.html?tickers=MUB,XLF,LQD,JNK,TLT,HYG,AAG#mwpphu-container
According to the above link, congress is working on this right now.
We trained hard . . . but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization.
It would also make the Deputy Chiefs just about completely irrelevant.
That should read "It HAS made the Deputy Chiefs completely irrelevant".
At least the one in Area 3.
I had just made friends with all the right bosses and they are going to reorganize ,what about my phone call they promised. 19Paul!
This isn't just transferring units under the Sup's office, but putting them direcly under the Chief of Staff's office. This is a blatant power grab by 3M and the Sup has already thrown in the towel and given him free reign. The question is why? Is it possible that a deal has already been struck with Rham to retain the Sup after the election and Masters is just getting his ducks in a row to continue to run the Department his way? A curious move is putting the General Counsel under the chief of staff. I would think this would create an atty-client privilege issue. Apparently removing Kirby from the General Counsels office eliminated that roadblock. With 3M making so many moves without any challenge things are going to get a whole lot worse. Hang on!
Masters, Weis, Brown, and all other nitwits are just about done. The experiment is almost over boys and you sucked big time.
Just go back to old school district policing! Dump all the bullshit units,tru,msf,gun teams etc. Put them all in districts to bolster personnel and create a system of accountability. Not to hard to do boss! But no lets promote more skulls full of mush like goofy goldstein like most of the exempt structure who have never been the police! Lastly FREE COZZI! All you "warriors" out there would do yourself a favor to look what the weisel did to this fine decorated soldier and great copper! The cpd "we got your back"style is still true only now they will twist the knife!
Heard they gonna make 016 the new 10 sector for 025.
Every once in a while one needs to reorganize all of the disorganization. It just makes sense.
They don't want the abandoned buildings documented because many democrats vote from there.
4:35, municipial governments already can go bankrupt under Chapter 9 of the Bankruptcy code. States currently cannot as they are considered "sovereign" entities.
What is happening now is that both parties are trying to figure out a way to let states go bankrupt, and this is following a proposal from Newt Gingrich. Yesterday the NYT had a front page article on the overall topic: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/business/economy/21bankruptcy.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss
The thing is, its the big blue states that obviously have the biggest debt problems. Congress, and particularly the House, will never vote for something to specifically benefit California, Illinois and New York.
The ticker symbol for the biggest Muni bond ETF is MUB, and a lot of people are watching this and other specific Muni bond funds like those from Nuveen and Pimco.
Illinois has two options to make ends meet as things stand. Raise taxes and reduce services. The recent tax raise only balances the current budgets, and doesn't begin to seriously address all the money that's already been borrowed or promises (think pensions especially). The politicians will take it out of the pockets of the workers if you, the workers, let them.
I want to create a new unit called the protective unit. While all these other shmucks are predicting and msfing and being tactical female officers I'm going to just show up to work and make sure that women make it where ever they're going safely, old folks can sleep soundly because I drive by at 3am, kids aspire to be me and I make it home safely to my family. That's why I becam a policeman and that's why I love my job.
coming soon is the new deputy superintendent of " i don't know what the hell I'm talking about."--- they should have no trouble filling that spot, plenty of worthy candidates to pick from.....
Can't he just be the Lame Duck Superintendent that he is? Watch out if Rahm wins, you think Masters has power now?
True and true, except for troubled buildings, they were farmed out almost 2 yrs ago, but still use the space in DC office.
Past history-when his office can't control the exempt(meaning when he/she might actually implement something good for the dept and troops) that unit mysteriously reorganizes under Unit 111. That way he can take any credit for anything good and suppress any bad press. Stupid but it's how things are done.
mass transit is a fucking joke of a unit...they get a shitload of federal money....from homeland security and now they are being placed under the supt. office...what they should do is get rid of all the do nothing dogs...oh wait...that would mean disbanding the entire unit...another scam unit...just ask anyone from 001/018...everytime a serious crime takes place on public trans...they are NEVER available....WHAT A JOKE!!
When Weis is gone, the house will be put back in proper order.
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How about a Det or Sgt class jagoffs?
I know that part of this is true: Counter terrorism and Intel are going under the Supe. Does this mean that Goldstein will get promoted again? Will Caluris report to Goldsten? A commander to a commander? I doubt it.
Goldstein to move up = again. 4 years, to what now, ADS? Dep Chief?
Area 4 PSN has a bad CR/Lawsuit brewing. Somebody didn't write the paperwork so tight....
The Deputy's have to do some work now and earn a check. They have had a free ride bc of their staff for years. Now deployments, stats, etc fall on two career house mice. Should be fun to watch.
It comes down to a simple child like expression of "It's my ball and you can't play with it".
Petersen voiced an opinion J-Fled didn't like and J-Fled is showing Petersen who the 'real boss' is....at the expense of the rank and file of course. Coward that he is, it was on Petersen's unpaid fulough day.
Jody, you are a clown. We can't wait for you to leave. Don't count on a big going away party for you. The celebrating will happen when you are on the plane.
Change = Progress.
Doesn't it?
1/22/2011 12:27:00 AM
only when it doesn't = regress, digress, and/or bullshit.
I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization.
1/22/2011 05:23:00 AM
well, at least they're getting something right, even if it's wrong.
Once again why is this Superintendent and Mr Masters reorganizing anything? You are both past your time boys. Sit back and relax until da Mayor leaves. If I were you it would be smart to start putting together your resumes for your next job. Jody maybe you may want to consider Chief of security at Wal Mart. You would fit right in with your possum head. Mr Masters you have an impressive resume and you may want to consider going along with Jody and continue telling him how to do the job. Good riddance to both of you.
Anonymous said...
This is off topic, but it seems that Daley knew something when he stated that governments could go bankrupt then re-organize in order to meet pension obligations.
Without reading it does it mention a grap for all contributed money to be moved to social security?
That's the dems altimate wet-dream.
At that point it becomes a two class society. Police/Fire and NOT police/fire.
If any of this happens I for one will work my ass off by writing/locking up every citizen observed violating anything.
A side note to the good governor. The fourtune 500 company my wife works for is seriously exploring moving all of it's Illinois offices out of the state. To the point that three of the following Wisconsin, Iowa/Missouri, and Indiana would be the beneficiaries.
Nice going dumbocRATS.
JFled is planning a coup.
TO: Well, one PSN team did'nt go to OCD. The PSN team from area four has serious issues and won't be going. Take this to the bank
Well wrong already...They are there...ANother area isn't though
What's being spoken of in hushed whispers among the Gold Stars is that a meeting was called Thursday evening by J-Fled & EB with all exempts. After they all arrived HQ, They were all told that "Weis still runs things, he's still the Supt., and anyone who doesn't like it can pack a bag and be dismissed from the Exempt ranks.' Apparently, it's come to a head that NONE of the exempts will support Supt. 'So-Stupid,' as evidenced by the fact that for the past 4 months, possibly longer, Weis has been forced to hold all his major BS press conferences ALONE. None of the exempts want to be photographed or videotaped standing too close to the guy; it's pretty well established that whoever gets the nod for Supt. after the Mayoral election, the vast majority of the 'high command' will just about all be history. They're all pretty much about as useful as tits on the proverbial bull. Apparently, Peterson and Weis have now had a falling out, evidenced by 3M snatching all of the 'glamour' units away from 'ol bullet head and keeping them for himself, under the "Supts. Office" umbrella. The circus continues, with the cast of clowns constantly being updated! My, but what a 'Peyton Place' PD we have become! HAHAHAHA!
The Deputy Chiefs are irrelevant!!!!
Pre-Predicted Analysis : Neither Daley or JPud will be around and another re-reorganizational restructurization will take place by Sept. 2011.
NOW THAT'S HYBRIDIZATION.
Letter came down from the Techies the other day...... POD rooms to be set up in other districts (016, 017 025). Seems DTEB likes Henny Penny's POD room idea, and wants to have more.
These people can't be moved out fast enough!
Why does the Deputy Chief need two PO's and a sergeant any way?
can anybody explain the justification for this?
Maybe the media can explain this one?
The Human Intelligence and Counter Terrorism Unit for the CPD are a joke. The majority of those softballs are clout heavy coppers who never stepped foot outside of the States. They have little to no combat experience dealing with Militant Islam. They were not even the original members picked for the assignment of Human Intelligence.
Most people don't realize that the people actually chosen by CPD and FBI SAIC were from Area One. They were selected on their knowledge of terrorism and having actually been in combat against insurgents. As things always are in the CPD, these highly qualified officers were passed over and a bunch of non-qualified strokes got put in by their clout. That's the CPD's Counter Terrorism unit...bunch of clout hacks who wouldn't know a terrorist if he or she was in their face.
-Deering officer
abandoned building officer? WHAT A JOKE!!! how do I get that bs gig?
who cares!handle your jobs and go home!!
During WWII, the Germany army constantly reorganized. Just a thought.
The only thing the Deputy Chiefs were ever good for was a second level of exempt review for SPARs.
The D/Cs of the DD have to approve the Ex Clear Closed murder cases, and with the SAO refusing to charge anyone unless the crime is caught on video AND the offender gives it up that alone can be a full time job.
Sorry gota run
Wake up people. If Rahm wins, Masters stays. Vote Chico. Enough said.
mass transit is a fucking joke of a unit...they get a shitload of federal money....from homeland security and now they are being placed under the supt. office...what they should do is get rid of all the do nothing dogs...oh wait...that would mean disbanding the entire unit...another scam unit...just ask anyone from 001/018...everytime a serious crime takes place on public trans...they are NEVER available....WHAT A JOKE!!
1/22/2011 10:20:00 AM
u don t know what ur talking about asswipe. The reason no one answers is that a unit that useto be 400 strong is down to 130. And 30% are on tac.We re short all over...and i ve been on ur zone where it takes about 4 or 5 calls before a car answer s in 18.. again we re short all over.
The circus continues, with the cast of clowns constantly being updated! My, but what a 'Peyton Place' PD we have become! HAHAHAHA!
1/22/2011 02:02:00 PM
it always gets ugly when the clowns turn nasty.
JFled is planning a coup.
1/22/2011 12:45:00 PM
which will turn into a poop.
If any of this happens I for one will work my ass off by writing/locking up every citizen observed violating anything.
1/22/2011 12:27:00 PM
catch me, if you can.
Chalkie
Counter terrorism Cool does Ray Ray head that one? Sounds like an elite srike unit with a hot line to some asshole ego LoL
"This is off topic, but it seems that Daley knew something when he stated that governments could go bankrupt then re-organize in order to meet pension obligations."
"According to [a link], Congress is working on this right now."
--1/22/2011 04:35:00 AM
Yup. Also here --
A Path Is Sought for States to Escape Their Debt Burdens
"Policymakers are working behind the scenes to come up with a way to let states declare bankruptcy and get out from under crushing debts, including the pensions they have promised to retired public workers."
http://www.nytimes.com/
2011/01/21/business/
economy/21bankruptcy.
html?src=busln
Not "behind the scenes" any more. Bump this one up, would ya, SCC? This is huge, one of the biggest stories of the new century.
Just a few days ago I posted a link to a piece on how the states were no longer good bond risks, that they'd be defaulting; it never entered my mind that they'd simply declare bankruptcy like some crazy person who burned up 33 credit cards and now can't pay...
Exactly like some crazy person...
Real power grab, huh? It's obvious that it's already been decided who the new Superintendent is going to be, and that this "reorganization" is their work. This is the sort of thing done by an incoming official, not by the guy on his way out the door...
"This is a blatant power grab by 3M and the Sup has already thrown in the towel and given him free reign."
--1/22/2011 08:29:00 AM
Ah hah. Yeah, what did I just post -- it has already been decided who the new Superintendent is going to be and this is his work, the kind of thing an incoming official does.
You don't have to know how to teach to run the schools, you don't have to know how to drive a bus to run the CTA, and you don't even have to be a policeman to run the Police Department. This is Daleyland, where everyone is interchangeable like light bulbs.
Gotta run!
memo that just came in " an officer from each dist is to report monday to jpuds office. There they will play musical chairs and complete a circle jerk{ sorry ladies you cant come because of lack of equipment} The officer that comes in last means that district will switch with the 007th dist.....Think of it.
The reason these units are being moved under the Sup's office is so they can be detailed to events.
"I want to create a new unit called the protective unit. While all these other shmucks are predicting and msfing and being tactical female officers I'm going to just show up to work and make sure that women make it where ever they're going safely, old folks can sleep soundly because I drive by at 3am, kids aspire to be me and I make it home safely to my family. That's why I became a policeman and that's why I love my job."
--1/22/2011 09:40:00 AM
Don't they call it "Patrol?"
Ever since there were call boxes and horse-drawn wagons -- "Patrol."
They just shuffled these insiders to other inside jobs, that's all.
When Weis is gone, the house will be put back in proper order.
1/22/2011 10:24:00 AM
Not if Rahm-it-down-our-throats gets in. It will be the same 'ol shit, Daley-esque, even worse.
I heard Rahm will be mayor and appoint shortshanks as the superintendent. Then he'll show us how to really run this department into the ground.
Anonymous said...
Every once in a while one needs to reorganize all of the disorganization. It just makes sense.
1/22/2011 09:05:00 AM
That's a BINGO!
--Without reading it does it mention a grap for all contributed money to be moved to social security?
That's the dems altimate wet-dream.--
Most in city employment probably don't realize the impact, but a few facts to the contrary...
First, social security went cash flow negative in the last year or two, years and years ahead of schedule. Second, that 2% reduction in social security contributions from private sector employees reduced social security cash inputs by 20% or more this year, so its even more cash flow negative. Bruce Krasting is one of the contributors at Zero Hedge, and he writes about this stuff with a pretty good ability to explain what's happening.
Oh yeah, and third, the social security "trust fund" is not actually a lock box like they starting lying about in the '80s. The securities in that "lock box" are non-transferable U.S. treasury bonds held in West Virginia. They are simply 3 or 4 trillion of our 14 trillion national debt. It would have to be paid by future taxpayers, whereas right now about 40% of federal spending is borrowed.
Which is a long way of saying, there ain't nothing they can do about social security except means testing. There is a bit of speculation that this will be brought up in the SOTU this week.
That's why I becam a policeman and that's why I love my job.
1/22/2011 09:40:00 AM
Until they fuck with my existing, promised, earned pension.
Then its time for every policeman to stop, tread water and give society a taste of what its like without self motivated and altruistic law enforcement.
This idea of the cities and states declaring bankruptcy may be the wave of the very near future.
The libertard MF'ers have pissed away and stolen so much that the only way out of the financial mess is no way out. They just let it collapse and walk away from the wreckage. With their pensions intact, of course.
I wonder what would happen when these politicians tell all the unions and the retirees to eat shit and die while the illegal immigrants get free housing, education, food and health care.
That may cause a tremendous and very ugly backlash. The tragedy like what occurred in Tuscon may become more common.
With such a large piece of the state budget just being debt service, there is no where to cut. They wouldn't dare cut LINK and WIC.
Illinois has more units of government than any other state in the union. All these little offices and commissions. Prime example is the City Council with 50 aldermen.
Way too many people doing paper shuffling jobs.
Look at this department and all its number crunching units;
Predictive Analysis
The DOC
Fusion Center
Detective Division Administration.
R&D
..and probably a few more.
Anonymous said...
It would also make the Deputy Chiefs just about completely irrelevant.
That should read "It HAS made the Deputy Chiefs completely irrelevant".
At least the one in Area 3.
1/22/2011 06:00:00 AM
The Deputy chiefs have always been irrelevant.
Not that long ago they did their job with one (1) PO as secretary. That was their staff, one PO.
And while they went to law school etc., the PO secretary ran it. things worked out just fine. No worse than now with a platoon of ass lickers on the Deputy Chief's staff.
Anonymous said...
This isn't just transferring units under the Sup's office, but putting them direcly under the Chief of Staff's office. This is a blatant power grab by 3M and the Sup has already thrown in the towel and given him free reign. The question is why? Is it possible that a deal has already been struck with Rham to retain the Sup after the election and Masters is just getting his ducks in a row to continue to run the Department his way? A curious move is putting the General Counsel under the chief of staff. I would think this would create an atty-client privilege issue. Apparently removing Kirby from the General Counsels office eliminated that roadblock. With 3M making so many moves without any challenge things are going to get a whole lot worse. Hang on!
1/22/2011 08:29:00 AM
I hope someone is saving some old general orders like Department Organization for Command so they can reconstruct the police department after this terrible experiment is over.
i will be riding the train with my radio off... can i have an event number? (( LOL ))
i will be riding the train with my radio off... can i have an event number? (( LOL ))
1/23/2011 10:52:00 PM
say again.
over.
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