Chilling Video
Watch the prisoner's hands:
What the hell did he get off of that necklace? It seems to have gone from a diamond shape to a triangle. A key? A key and a blade? And he's really going with the mouth, playing to the cameras and pretty much telling them he's about to escape and do some damage.
Sharpshooters killed him later, but not before he took the life of a Mobile, Alabama officer, the one driving the car in the video.
What the hell did he get off of that necklace? It seems to have gone from a diamond shape to a triangle. A key? A key and a blade? And he's really going with the mouth, playing to the cameras and pretty much telling them he's about to escape and do some damage.
Sharpshooters killed him later, but not before he took the life of a Mobile, Alabama officer, the one driving the car in the video.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
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Another mad rabid dog put to sleep. This is a sample of the new generation of Thugs roaming our cities. Only good part of this story is this little punk bastard is dead. Wake up America.
I read this Article today about this incident...
Mobile Police Chief Michael Williams spoke at length Thursday about the slaying, ending speculation surrounding a diamond-shaped medallion Wallace was wearing that was believed to have played a role in Green’s death.
“The necklace that Wallace had around his neck had nothing to do with injuries or stabbings. It’s not the weapon.” The small knife that was recovered is “consistent with the stab wounds and was not something that would have been concealed in the medallion,” Williams said.
A preliminary investigation also revealed that Wallace had a small handcuff key in his shoe that he likely used to slip out of the restraints while being transported from police headquarters to Mobile County Metro Jail.
“We believe somewhere between police headquarters and Metro, Wallace took his handcuffs off,” Williams said. “We believe the handcuff key was concealed somewhere on his body. We don’t know where. We may never know where.”
I googled necklace knife...look at the images...id say that's it. Who knows about the cuffs . Perhaps their protocol is to uncuff in the sallyport(sp?)....not gonna guess
yet a shitheads wife gets 1.35mil, when an off duty shoots 2 guys pointing guns at him, cause he used "excessive force"... this guy killed to p.o.'s with a jewlery knife.....
I googled this story and the mobile Alabama pd states that the medallion has nothing to do with the officers death.the shithead apparently had a handcuff key hidden in his shoe. Uncuffed himself and was still in possession of a 3" knife. When exiting the squad car he acted as though he was still cuffed. Put his left hand in front of his face causing the p.o to realize he was uncuffed and attempt to grab his left hand. The shithead then with his right hand stabbed the p.o in the neck with the knife once then one more time in the back. Still a horrible story but just wanted to point out what the mobile pd had stated. Stay safe all!
They found out that the offender had a hand cuff key in his shoe and a 3 inch knife on his person. Had nothing to do with the thing around his neck.
024 just a had a kid w/ a mac10 in his waistband in an interview room for over an hour. Searching these Asshole's is the Key!
FUCK THIS POS!!! I hope his momma never has another moment of peace!!
Did the officer have to stow his gun in a locker before he entered the station like we have to do in Chicago? Maybe that was where the prisoner got the upper hand on him. And why has their never been a safety grievence filed in Chicago over this practice? FOP. FOP. Are you listening?
Sometimes the most obvious things to remember are often the ones easily lost/forgotten to complacency.
There was a good reason why Roberts (and occasionally Marsh) gave you a good crack upside your head if you didn't have your hands in front of you, chest-high and at the ready when you passed them in the halls at 1300.
Sadly, the caliber of Academy instructors has consistently diminished over time, as evidenced by the cluelessness of many of the recruits I've trained over the years. Eliminating the FTO program was the coup de gras for any hopes of solid recruits with any type of regularity. Then add in relaxed hiring standards, etc, etc...
Point being - remember the basics, and make a conscious effort to stay alert at all times.
My condolences to the family of the officer killed and the entire Mobile police force.
Why didn't that News Crew SAY ANYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope that piece of shit arrogant asshole enjoys burning in hell.
Be safe, ladies and gentlemen of CPD, please be safe!
Gee...what compstat box does this go into?
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Report: Man set on fire in West Ridge
A male victim was reportedly set on fire in Chicago’s West Ridge, West Rogers Park neighborhood.
Monday, around 9:47 p.m., police were notified that a male victim was on fire on the 6000 block of North Mozart Street, near Mozart and Glenlake, on the city’s North Side.
The 911 caller said the victim was on fire in front of a house.
At 9:54 p.m., a responding officer confirmed a male victim was set on fire, but the officer was still trying to get more information.
At 9:56 p.m., someone, presumably the same officer who verified the incident, requested a supervisor.
more >> http://www.chicagonewsreport.com/2012/02/report-man-set-on-fire-in-west-ridge.html
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WTF? Crime's down?
Jesus, that is CHILLING . . . and HEY . . . let's be careful out there . . .
I first would like to pass along my condolences to the victim's family and Mobile Police Department. This was very unfortunate and sad to hear. This piece of shit scum should have suffered a more lengthy and excruciating death rather than quick gun shot wounds. Anyway, I would like to take this time to REMIND and urge my fellow officers to please always search, double-check, triple-check and have partner search(if applicable). Everyone misses items at times, but don't be too close to the shithead for him to make a move. I see officers on numerous occasions doing half-ass searches. Officers just like anyone fall guilty to "going through the motions," but please take those extra few minutes to make sure shitbird is cleared. R.I.P. Officer and everyone be safe out there.
if the makers of that necklace were identified, they could be civilly and/or criminally liable for the Officer's death.
Unfortunately, the liberals have created a society where the criminal is always right. Look around in the "hood", what do you see? Bars, alarms and police. Almost like you are in prison on the outside. Obviously the officer had to bring the guy inside BY HIMSELF. Due to society, this is no longer a task where any officer should deal with any prisoner 1-on-1. LESSON LEARNED: Search EVERYONE and dont leave anything in reach of a suspects hands!!!! RIP to the officer, and condolences to his family.
Search! Search! And Search again...
Sgt. Bruce Rapa (RET)
I hear it was a blade. stabbed the officer in lookup when they uncuffed him.
Disgusting--the unfortunate demise of the officer, however, should serve to teach the rest of us. Sad, sad day. Good ending for the bad guy.
probably a hidden handcuff key like this one: http://milsimevent.com/forums/showthread.php?1473-Officer-Safety-Concealed-Handcuff-Key
and some would call him human ....
off topic but cnn picked up on the sticker stupid kid and its on their website and on anderson cooper. typical liberal media of course the banger coulkd do no wrong, hey herb, when you were crying, where were the tears. goes to show what kind of investigating reporters they are. damn are they stupid and liberal.
WHy did this douchebag have on a necklace while in custody?
Good bye, dog. Never trust these animals.
Ot
http://tinyurl.com/6t6m3l5
Supreme court justice robbed with machette
How hard would it have been for that cameraman to bring it to the attention of the officer. Not hard at all.
Our lock-up guy said they found a cuff key taped with duct tape inside a gym shoe in the very toe. Kicking off the shoe and tapping it on the ground to see what falls out did not find it. They had to actually reach in to the toe to locate it!
Just an FYI
Even though they're saying the medallion had nothing to do with the attack, be aware that there are "neck knives" out there
Small, concealable, the one below comes with a scabbard that can be worn as a necklace or woven into the laces of a shoe or boot
http://www.knifecenter.com/item/KA1478BP/ka-bar-last-ditch-ldk-tdi-law
Also, on multiple occasions I have had patients with cuff keys pinned into their underwear behind their back.....Search 'em REAL good
Did the officer have to stow his gun in a locker before he entered the station like we have to do in Chicago? Maybe that was where the prisoner got the upper hand on him. And why has their never been a safety grievence filed in Chicago over this practice? FOP. FOP. Are you listening?
2/14/2012 12:28:00 AM
There has never been a safety grievance because it would never hold up. You're in a small space where you'll be taking assholes handcuffs off, he sees the lockup and finally realizes he's being locked up. There have been plenty of police officers hurt at this point of the arrest that justifies a gun locker.
024 just a had a kid w/ a mac10 in his waistband in an interview room for over an hour. Searching these Asshole's is the Key!
2/14/2012 12:22:00 AM
WTF! If this is true, that's a serious breach. Did somebody take time for this?
Looked like he was trying to keep something in his mouth.
Learn from what this piece of shit did and do not let it happen to you! It is a shame a Mobile , P.O. was killed, but let's make sure his death is not in vain.
SCC
Check out the news article about the City buying shields for the helmets.
http://www.suntimes.com/10622261-417/city-buys-face-shields-to-protect-cops-from-g-8-protesters.html
Other then the obvious fact that they City is not buying enough shields for everyone look into the price.
A quick google search of t he company and their website you notice that similar shields sell for no more then $37. According to the article they are buying them for $84 and $51!
I guess Chicago is the only City that when you buy something in bulk that the vender charges you a large mark up.
RIP officer and our fellow brother in law enforcement.
Scary. Never assume that somebody else handing off a shitbird to you has thoroughly searched him. Not to be critical of Mobile,but WTF was this ignorant savage doing with anything metal on his body for? I know they say he was stabbed w something else, but that item looked sharp and something that size could hide a key or other contraband. I took a loaded revolver off an arrestee coming into my lockup when i was filling in for lockup keeper years ago. He was arrested by tact team rounding up public drinkers to bolster stat numbers. They obviously never put a hand under his junk to check for weapon which had capacity to kill 6 people. Be careful out there, its your ass on the line. I hope there is a heaven for the ofcr. that lost his life, and a hell for the pos that took him from his family!
some shitheads are starting to tape weapons or handcuff keys to the bottom of their shoes, please take a look and check this before putting them inside the squad car
Did the officer have to stow his gun in a locker before he entered the station like we have to do in Chicago? Maybe that was where the prisoner got the upper hand on him. And why has their never been a safety grievence filed in Chicago over this practice? FOP. FOP. Are you listening?
2/14/2012 12:28:00 AM
Sorry Brother, I disagree with you on this one. The practice of not carrying a gun in processing or lock up is a good one. The slain officer had not stowed his gun yet, and it ended up becoming the shithead's gun. This is exactly why we use two person cars for prisoner transports.
WTF is this POS in cuffs coming out of the station but still has a large jewelry pice around his neck? That makes absolutely zero sense to me. I don't care if he claimed it a religious item, it gets taken and bagged and can go with him but not on him.
He also shot another copper but he is ok!
Anonymous said...
I googled necklace knife...look at the images...id say that's it. Who knows about the cuffs . Perhaps their protocol is to uncuff in the sallyport(sp?)....not gonna guess
2/14/2012 12:16:00 AM
One article said that he opened his cuffs in the car, then-when he exited the car in the sally port-kept his hands behind his back as if they were still cuffed.
Fucking Animal. Right way to handle the beast.
RIP officer.
http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/did-prisoner-telegraph-his-escape
This is a better video, you can clearly hear what he is saying as being was being led and put into the squad car...
Wallace said, "I told him make sure y'all get that whole 36 right there. You see that don't you? You see that, that's a whole 36. If you want it, you can get a split. That's a 9 right there. You know what I'm talking about. Quarter and a penny. Mob town. What it is. I'll be out before I reach down there. Bigger than the mayor on the neck."
The Beast is among us.
(OT) Please watch out for each other,this is getting crazy!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/14/fourth-new-york-city-police-officer-kills-self-in-less-than-month/?test=latestnews
Savage
First, did you expect the cameramen to really say anything? This is the media we are talking about, and secondly. Why was this guy allowed to wear a necklace while in custody?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/clout/chi-owe-city-hall-chicago-may-take-it-out-of-state-tax-refund-20120214,0,1884123.story
Can the Pension Fund use this same law and apply it to the City when they do not fund the pension when the law states they must?
It is like an entire generation needs to be killed and life needs to start over.
FUCK THIS POS!!! I hope his momma never has another moment of peace!!
2/14/2012 12:25:00 AM
You idiot. You know nothing about his mother. I know great parents with rotten kids, I was one myself back in the day. The same kids you're chasing around sometimes are coppers kids. Sometimes your cursed wishes for others becomes your own. The offender is dead. Copper is dead. It's a sad story. Sad the offender caught off so easy...sad the PO was killed.
I wonder if the handcuff key was attached to that necklace.
I guess they don't inventory every object a prisoner has on them. Makes u think that a better search would've came from it they did.
Anonymous said...
Why didn't that News Crew SAY ANYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2/14/2012 01:29:00 AM
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Maybe the news grew didn't notice it untill later on when they were back at the station reviewing the tape a number of times for clues on what might of happened.
Being question is why wasn't he searched for the 3" knife that he had.
I know I sound like a monday morning quarterback, but why on earth was this clown still wearing his jewelry in the first place??
Hasn't every cop across the nation seen the mass production of these hidden weapons, cuff keys and random pieces of drug paraphernalia disguised as simple every day items??
Unreal and terribly tragic.
R.I.P Officer.....
Why didn't that News Crew SAY ANYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2/14/2012 01:29:00 AM
The NEWSMEDIA is NEVER on the side of the Police Officer! You Dipshit!
Get a Clue!
Da Pelon
The only and best part of this story is this little jagoff will never fuck with anybody again.
A quick google search of t he company and their website you notice that similar shields sell for no more then $37. According to the article they are buying them for $84 and $51!
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Often government procurement requirements preclude just ordering stuff off the Internet.
One might think that it is because they are all crooked or something, but many times the rules put into place to "make things fair" end up adding a lot of cost because a government purchasing agent is just plain not allowed to buy like any normal person would.
It is also possible that the lower cost suppliers are unable to supply in the needed quantities.
Anonymous said...
2012 08:37:00 PM
Anonymous said...
I work up north. Today I had NATO/G8 training, something happened and I'm not quite sure what. Our instructor who seemed pretty good, said some stuff about leadership and direction up above and that the training might be minimal. At about 2 hours through, some sgt came in and acted like an ass. He pointed at the instructor and had him replaced. It was very weird. The training got weird and the instructors seemed awkward. The sgt never came back, but I've seen him in the academy. What ashame that an instructor getsbtreated like that. Truth is, the training seems minimal at best. Another guy asked about our uniforms getting covered in urine and what was going to be done but the instructor was without answers. Very sad.
2/13/2012 08:45:00 PM
I was in the class and agree it was very awkward. The sgt got his panties in a bunch and stormed out. He never returned to class. I guess riot training is too hard for the adminsitrative sgt. Everyone else stayed for the class. That Greek entitlement makes you special.
2/14/2012 07:45:00 AM
We would like to believe that officer safety and training has the highest priority, especially at the academy. Sad to say, this is not the case. The G-8 instructors try their best but they lack the suuport from white shirts. The primary exhibit being the temper tantrum thrown by the greek administrative sgt disrupting the class. He never returned to class. He must have been so upset he was lost. I feel sorry for the instructor who was verbally torn apart in the hallway. Hello Howard.
It really turns my stomach to read this crap, day in and day out. Another cop killed by some lunatic tough guy. My respects to the Mobile PD and the slain Officer's family. RIP Sir.
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if the makers of that necklace were identified, they could be civilly and/or criminally liable for the Officer's death.
2/14/2012 02:53:00 AM
Are you kidding? The world we live in now everyone wants to sue for anything. So by your logic if he was stabbed with a pen would we sue BIC?
Check out the news article about the City buying shields for the helmets.
http://www.suntimes.com/10622261-417/city-buys-face-shields-to-protect-cops-from-g-8-protesters.html
Other then the obvious fact that they City is not buying enough shields for everyone look into the price.
A quick google search of t he company and their website you notice that similar shields sell for no more then $37. According to the article they are buying them for $84 and $51!
I guess Chicago is the only City that when you buy something in bulk that the vender charges you a large mark up.
2/14/2012 09:12:00 AM
The 'similar' shields are made from 2mm thick non-shatterproof acrylic plastic. when struck with a hard object, they break into large, sharp shards. This shield is 4mm thick shatterproof polycarbonate. It meets the NIJ standards for riot protection.
"It is like an entire generation needs to be killed and life needs to start over."
Now you know what Weis, McDetox and Rahm think of the police department. Yet the screwball hairgels still produce for these jagoffs and then get stripped.
How hard would it have been for that cameraman to bring it to the attention of the officer. Not hard at all.
2/14/2012 07:46:00 AM
I know this is a tragedy but what did you want the cameraman to bring to the attention of the officer? If you are referring to the necklace then I think two trained veteran officers should have noticed it and took it off themselves.
I like the Jim Marsh reference, forgot about that. Although I never got smacked, it was a little lesson like that which made and kept you alert.
Too often we see coppers standing around all facing the same direction at a scene with their hands tucked in their vests or in their pockets.
Very very risky position to be in. Think about it and try to rid yourself of that habit, especially when you don't know who'll come up behind you.
One other point about searches, whether before or after arrest, detention and transport...
Why is it the Dept doesn't have more efficient metal detectors for (wagon) transports ?
Is it too costly? Or are funds being squandered on CAPS coloring books and frisbees?
Wouldn't it be nice if FOP made these available instead of a St. Paddy's Day party or Fishing Tourney?
Wallace said, "I told him make sure y'all get that whole 36 right there. You see that don't you? You see that, that's a whole 36. If you want it, you can get a split. That's a 9 right there. You know what I'm talking about. Quarter and a penny. Mob town. What it is. I'll be out before I reach down there. Bigger than the mayor on the neck."
2/14/2012 11:09:00 AM
Great. Now in english please..
I have a freind who retired from NYPD a year ago. He told me today that 4 NYPD coppers have killed themselves this year alone! WTF. Another was shot today.
This is only a job now. Politics and yuppy bastards have ruined a once great career. Get your 2 and run like hell!!
I know that it is a pain in the balls but double locking the cuffs may have helped. (I said "may".) I have a bitch of a time unlocking them on somebody else. If you were cuffed and had to manipulate the locking device, you probably would be giving tell-tale movements that would draw attention to you. Inconvenience vs. your safety...something to consider. I'm not second guessing but trying to sound out better tactics for the future.
Serious Question to Ask our Department and FOP.
With all these Anarchist and Protesters getting more violent by the day with their method of protesting and causing civil disorder. What is the Department going to do address the issue of equipping officers with flame retardant clothing and personal fire extinguishers? A Molitov Cocktail is deadly force and will be met with deadly force.
This is not Europe where it is not considered deadly force.
Jsut look at the officers that were on fire in Greece the other day.
Just something to think about!
West Side Police
Similar to the people/bangers we deal with almost on a daily basis on the south and west sides and still we are the ones pictured as thugs by the media. Stay safe out there because we are the only ones who will look out for one and other.
RIP Officer may the Gates of Heaven Open and those treat you as the hero you are.
3000 face shields is enough because they cost $ 200K. If Rahm sPent more he had to bid it out. There are no more shields coming. Rahm can't split the order to avoid the bid process. We have our own Shields to protect us at FOP. ROTFLMFAO!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
yet a shitheads wife gets 1.35mil, when an off duty shoots 2 guys pointing guns at him, cause he used "excessive force"... this guy killed to p.o.'s with a jewlery knife.....
2/14/2012 12:19:00 AM
In this crooked, democRAt, codling, entitlement, city, county, state, do you think a jury is looking out for the truth?
Regarding the media, I agree that the cameraman may not have realized what happened until afterwards. The general tone of the reporter actually sounds neutral, if not irritated with the POS who kept "running his mouth."
The media should be at least neutral, report the facts without commentary or blatant bias to the police. The bonus is when they actually recognize a bad guy for what he or she is. How nice that would be in the Chicago MSM.
Cuff these mutts top of the wrist to top of the wrist and fuck 'em when they complain that the cuffs hurt. Cuffs weren't designed to be comfy and if you don't like it, don't have cause to ever have to wear them. That kid shouldn't be able to reach around to the front of his body like that.
Anonymous said...
2012 08:37:00 PM
Anonymous said...
I work up north. Today I had NATO/G8 training, something happened and I'm not quite sure what. Our instructor who seemed pretty good, said some stuff about leadership and direction up above and that the training might be minimal. At about 2 hours through, some sgt came in and acted like an ass. He pointed at the instructor and had him replaced. It was very weird. The training got weird and the instructors seemed awkward. The sgt never came back, but I've seen him in the academy. What ashame that an instructor getsbtreated like that. Truth is, the training seems minimal at best. Another guy asked about our uniforms getting covered in urine and what was going to be done but the instructor was without answers. Very sad.
2/13/2012 08:45:00 PM
I was in the class and agree it was very awkward. The sgt got his panties in a bunch and stormed out. He never returned to class. I guess riot training is too hard for the adminsitrative sgt. Everyone else stayed for the class. That Greek entitlement makes you special.
2/14/2012 07:45:00 AM
We would like to believe that officer safety and training has the highest priority, especially at the academy. Sad to say, this is not the case. The G-8 instructors try their best but they lack the suuport from white shirts. The primary exhibit being the temper tantrum thrown by the greek administrative sgt disrupting the class. He never returned to class. He must have been so upset he was lost. I feel sorry for the instructor who was verbally torn apart in the hallway. Hello Howard.
That's because the "higher ups" he was talking about are the Sgts brother.....Steve Georgas
2/14/2012 12:16:00 AM
How many PO's remember to click the secondary lock on cuffs these days?
They found out that the offender had a hand cuff key in his shoe and a 3 inch knife on his person. Had nothing to do with the thing around his neck.
024 just a had a kid w/ a mac10 in his waistband in an interview room for over an hour. Searching these Asshole's is the Key!
2/14/2012 12:22:00 AM
I can wrap my head around missing a Knife...but how the FUCK do you miss a Mac10? Its not exactly a small weapon FFS.
Did the officer have to stow his gun in a locker before he entered the station like we have to do in Chicago? Maybe that was where the prisoner got the upper hand on him. And why has their never been a safety grievence filed in Chicago over this practice? FOP. FOP. Are you listening?
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Trust me Mike Shield's is done listening. He's getting his Commander's pay along with his cronies and now they are living large. He sure talked a good game. Lame Ass Union!! Boys and Girls we are on our own. Don't think the Union is going to do anything for us.
Great. Now in english please..
2/14/2012 05:51:00 PM
From the referenced link: "It's believed when Wallace said, "Quarter and a penny", he was talking about Mobile's area code. 2-5-1. Mob town? Mobile." The rest is anyone's guess.
Waiting for "Range Instructor" to bless us with his extensive knowledge on every aspect of police work...
BEWARE OF PRISONERS WEARING THE FOLLOWING!!!
http://img1.etsystatic.com/il_fullxfull.308099653.jpg
Anonymous said...
Unfortunately, the liberals have created a society where the criminal is always right. Look around in the "hood", what do you see? Bars, alarms and police. Almost like you are in prison on the outside. Obviously the officer had to bring the guy inside BY HIMSELF. Due to society, this is no longer a task where any officer should deal with any prisoner 1-on-1. LESSON LEARNED: Search EVERYONE and dont leave anything in reach of a suspects hands!!!! RIP to the officer, and condolences to his family.
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I still remember Sgt. Kushner telling us back in '94, that when you're given a prisoner for transport who is already cuffed, ALWAYS search the prisoner…even if the other officer tells you they searched them…THIS IS WHY. If you note, the transporting officer simply opened the car door for the prisoner… REST HIS SOUL…If ONLY he'd been taught by Kushner.
(OT) Heard they are sending the 2nd watch to G-8 here they are the video listen and learn!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIpqLb72wsg
Good work done by the Officers that hunted and killed that animal. No wasted taxpayers dollars.
Anonymous said...
Did the officer have to stow his gun in a locker before he entered the station like we have to do in Chicago? Maybe that was where the prisoner got the upper hand on him. And why has their never been a safety grievence filed in Chicago over this practice? FOP. FOP. Are you listening?
2/14/2012 12:28:00 AM
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You're obviously a young buck that doesn't remember that the reason we do not allow weapons in processing rooms, lock-ups or interview rooms is because of a tragic incident that occurred several years ago in an Area.
Those who don't know their history, are doomed to repeat it.
Years ago Caliber Press held 2 or 3 day "Street Survival" Seminars. They were excellent.
Police academy training for officer safety is a pathetic joke. Departments are more concerned about political correctness and sensitivity than officer survival.
While no municipal official will ever admit it, it is (financially for them) to have you get killed than it is for you to use force to defend yourself.
OMG Im sick to my stomach!!! POS Im glad the offender was carried away in a body bag. God bless that Officer may he rest in eternal peace.
My condolences to the Mobile PD who lost one of their own. Very sad for the slain officers family, friends and colleagues.
Anonymous said...
I wonder if the handcuff key was attached to that necklace.
2/14/2012 12:27:00 PM
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I ll bet the "handcuff key was a make shift "hinge" on that thing. Pulling it out made it into the triangle....smart for dude! Bad for us!
RIP Office!
3 bars
We would like to believe that officer safety and training has the highest priority, especially at the academy. Sad to say, this is not the case. The G-8 instructors try their best but they lack the suuport from white shirts. The primary exhibit being the temper tantrum thrown by the greek administrative sgt disrupting the class. He never returned to class. He must have been so upset he was lost. I feel sorry for the instructor who was verbally torn apart in the hallway. Hello Howard.
That's because the "higher ups" he was talking about are the Sgts brother.....Steve Georgas
2/14/2012 08:49:00 PM
The greek connection of Georgas and Georgas. But then think about it. He will never come close to the G-8 demonstrations, while hiding in his office with his three secretaries.
How hard would it have been for that cameraman to bring it to the attention of the officer. Not hard at all.
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Cops are not known for reacting well toward such unsolicited advice.
It could also be that since it was flapping in the breeze out in the open like that, it was just so obvious that someone looking on might assume that since it was so visible it had to be OK, given the number of cops who had to have seen it and chose to do nothing about it.
It does not appear that removing the necklace would have prevented this tragic incident anyway.
It does seem very odd that the guy reaches for his necklace like that though. It will probably never be known with any certainty why he did so.
Based on the dexterity he showed in getting his hands around to the necklace, I suspect that the suspect practiced getting out of cuffs. It is not real hard to learn to do. Many amateur (and professional) magicians have learned how to open handcuffs quite easily and remarkably fast. It does require a certain amount of skill and dexterity, but the skill can be acquired pretty easily and it is not an especially hard thing to learn.
The bad thing is that there is no non-trivial defense against someone who knows how to escape from handcuffs, especially if they have a key.
I always hate to see one of the good guys go down. It is not much of a consolation that the bad guy was taken out later. RIP good guy. May the bad guy rot in hell for eternity.
It is not like hidden handcuff keys are anything new though. More than 30 years ago I had to take a class to work as a security guard. The guy that taught the class was a jail guard that worked at the CC jail. He had a number of stories about the places jail guards had found handcuff keys on inmates that had already been searched multiple times. He said he had several secreted on his person due to his fear of being taken captive and cuffed with his own handcuffs. He actually demonstrated to the class how fast he could get out of cuffs. It was an eye opening demonstration.
Not a cop.
Anonymous said...
Did the officer have to stow his gun in a locker before he entered the station like we have to do in Chicago? Maybe that was where the prisoner got the upper hand on him. And why has their never been a safety grievence filed in Chicago over this practice? FOP. FOP. Are you listening?
2/14/2012 12:28:00 AM
Safety Grievances have no power of enforcement. The City loses safety grievances and then still ignores the issue. No enforcement.
The City would have to be on the losing end of a multi million dollar lawsuit to even take notice. And then they don't change behavior. Look at how many times the City gets sued for the same thing, over and over again.
Tony O. said...
BEWARE OF PRISONERS WEARING THE FOLLOWING!!!
http://img1.etsystatic.com/il_fullxfull.308099653.jpg
2/14/2012 10:15:00 PM
If the link didn't come thru…try this one…
It's a paracord bracelet with a hidden handcuff key in the clasp/buckle
http://www.etsy.com/listing/79612562/hidden-handcuff-key-buckle-on-paracord?ref=v1_other_1
I have worked monitoring the PODS. I can't tell you how many times I observed officers on the street placing UNCUFFED and either NO search or even a pat-down performed while putting someone in their car! IT MADE ME CRINGE! PLEASE GUYS AND GALS, SEARCH AND CUFF THESE ANIMALS IF YOU"RE GOING TO PUT THEM IN YOUR CAR! The cuffs can come off after the stop.
PLEASE be more careful out there! These animals have NO fear of the police anymore! I'm nearing the end of my career and I'm tired of going to officers funerals!
Anonymous said...
We would like to believe that officer safety and training has the highest priority, especially at the academy. Sad to say, this is not the case. The G-8 instructors try their best but they lack the suuport from white shirts. The primary exhibit being the temper tantrum thrown by the greek administrative sgt disrupting the class. He never returned to class. He must have been so upset he was lost. I feel sorry for the instructor who was verbally torn apart in the hallway. Hello Howard.
That's because the "higher ups" he was talking about are the Sgts brother.....Steve Georgas
2/14/2012 08:49:00 PM
The greek connection of Georgas and Georgas. But then think about it. He will never come close to the G-8 demonstrations, while hiding in his office with his three secretaries.
2/15/2012 05:47:00 AM
Soooo - Sgt. S. G. got credit for a class he never completed?
Did he throw the tantrum on purpose to get out of class.
Weren't there other supervisors in the class that were unaffected and unmoved by the instructor's comments.
Soooo - what was the real motive behind the short Sgt.'s actions?
Hello Howard.
Hello Brian Murphy
Officers take the time to conduct a thourough
search.
Why was he even allowed to keep that chain around his neck?
Regardless of what was on it, and for good measure prisoners who are cuffed should have some sort of secured mittens around their hands.
It was classic, the instructor was talking shit about the exempts in class and the sgt, who is related to one of them got him removed from the class and then I was told he let the instructor have it. However, Kind of stupid on the instructors part and can't blame sg for standing up either.
Please, that instructor was talking all kinds of shit about his bosses and all that. I'm glad someone knocked him back down to size.
I have worked monitoring the PODS. I can't tell you how many times I observed officers on the street placing UNCUFFED and either NO search or even a pat-down performed while putting someone in their car! IT MADE ME CRINGE! PLEASE GUYS AND GALS, SEARCH AND CUFF THESE ANIMALS IF YOU"RE GOING TO PUT THEM IN YOUR CAR! The cuffs can come off after the stop.
PLEASE be more careful out there!
2/15/2012 04:23:00 PM
Yes good advice and safety tips. But why not give your help and support and useful street knowledge on the street to younger officers instead of hiding in a pod room watching cameras????
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