ANOTHER "New" Strategy?
Some of the prize parts of this roll out:
- "Very clearly, we have a gang problem in the city of Chicago," Supt. McCarthy said at a press conference Tuesday.
No shit.
- Chicago's homicide rate at this point of the year is up nearly 50 percent. The vast majority of those homicides are gang-related.
"It's not OK that we had 53 shootings last week, but that 53 shootings is the same exact number of shootings that we had last year, so this is not a new problem. What it is is a new is the solution that we are applying to it," McCarthy said.
We had predicted the Department Administration would take credit for "They're killing each other at a slower rate." We were close as they're now saying, "Since the numbers are the same as last year, it's all okay." Of course, the one number that has changed? The number of officers employed by the city, meaning the "more with less" strategy is going to be touted as working.
- A computer program contains wants, warrants, known gang members with records, and their associates. That kind of information has long been available, but not packaged in quite this fashion, and within the next month, it'll be available on the frontlines to beat officers on the laptops in their squads.
Really? No mention of the entire system being down for almost 10 days? The lack of tower maintenance that's restricting our ability to get to info? The complete failure of the AIRA system (automated case reports) that means officers have to take the report on paper, then go to the station and type it into a land based system, meaning they're off the streets - a contradiction of Rahm's and McCarthy's insistence that more cops are on the street?
- As for the technology part of the equation, the superintendent says it shifts the emphasis a bit from "hot spot" policing to "hot people" policing.
So the entire last two months of "patrolling the box" was a waste of time? Just as it had been ten years ago? Has any one told the command staff who are still downing cars for "missions" that accomplish nothing at all?
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
162 Comments:
Below 200 in officers 017, 016 and 020. Just keep stripping police away so they can have 400 in each district in the ghetto.
Well at least we are making progress. It only took Gary one whole year to realize chicago has a gang problem. Maybe in a couple years he will realize we also have a manpower shortage.
How many "new" strategies have we tried since this mayor has taken office?
Throw in the towel, Emanuel. Not even you & your ego can beat the Chicago Animal.
I put blame squarely on the Latin gangs and their fronting!
And I say that while throwing up gang signs like gmac.
Did you hear Mc distinguish the difference between west side gangs and south side gangs and latin gangs?
He said west side gangs fight over dope, south side gangs fight over turf, and latin gangs fight over both.
Who told him this - Caluris?
Ya gotta luv their ability to cherry pick the numbers.
"It's not OK that we had 53 shootings last week, but that 53 shootings is the same exact number of shootings that we had last year, so this is not a new problem. What it is is a new is the solution that we are applying to it," McCarthy said
Golly gee whiz batman that comment would leave one with the impression that the shootings are not really any worse than last year!
Well I have some numbers too for you and they are NOT the exact same as last year.
however....
"Killings are double the figure for Memorial Day 2011"
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"According to the summaries, there have been at least 200 homicides so far this year compared with 134 during the same period in 2011. That's a 49.25% increase!"
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"There have been 851 shootings so far in 2012 compared with 747 during the same period in 2011, the police data showed."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-9-slain-dozens-injured-in-weekend-shootings-20120528,0,2966984.story
Man on the radio this morning said that on average each shooting cost the city $1 million dollars. Court, police, hospitals, lawyers, detectives, etc, etc.
Let the non tax paying savages kill each other.
Put the police to protect the tax paying areas.. This city is not and should not be equal.
its nuts. This box crap is rediculous. These guys are so over policed and taken in for such garbage that they arent even carrying a single bag of weed around. They dont even drink a beer on the street etc. Its not a success because they "got the message" they just know they will go to jail for it. Its all petty crap. They know the police are not going to run up into the house anymore. Everything is in the house. These boxes and the expected arrests every night is getting nuts. There is no need for this mandatory arrests junk. Im tired of having to bring in numbers just to say we have numbers. great, you went out and got a guy with 4 bags of weed and 8 contact cards. Yeah, thats gonna stop crime. You got three hypes drinking in an alley... yep, its 3 CB numbers but it wont change a damn thing.. yet the commanders at constat claim the numbers to "wow" the boss. We had 150 arrests last week... great, 50 were for weed, 20 were for one bag rock or heroin arrests and maybe one gun and the rest drinkers, b.s. reckless conducts and pissers.. who cares, its gonna do absolutly nothing to stop crime. Let tac teams go out and work on shootings. Take a whole team and go over all the shootings and work on those with the dics. Put them on missions as a team to work on robbery patterns. Let them do reversals again for the whole tour and get a few search warrants every week. this crap about numbers numbers numbers is old and out dated. it hasnt worked for the past 10 years on the district level. It worked great when sos was around(and we know how they got business done to get all those guns) but its no longer going to work. If they are not carrying anything on them or in the car then its all for nothing. they know it and we know it... just not the bosses. They refuse to believe that the numbers game is useless. The only thing it does is makes the police look petty and kills relations with regular people who get stopped just with the hopes of finding that half a blunt.. witch we all know anyone these days with anything at all on them go to jail.. its a terrible terrible thing. I gave up being a tac man years ago for the numbers game reason(and because I could finally get straight days on the watch) and it was a good decision. all the tac guys I talk too are miserable because they even know they are nothing but numbers generators and there is no good that comes from their work. this department is so screwed up its not even funny. the priorities are way off. doomed.
Ahhh who we kidding. If we hire more cops they'll just be assigned to watch the political protestors downtown.
The city wants this drug trade here. The city needs this drug trade and gangs here. Judge it by the actions and not by the words.
I got the " New Strategy ". Had it for a while now. It's called Jack Daniels.
New crime strategy
Fails to address the real problem
Savage citizens
Haiku Drew
treat them as urban terrorist. charge them under rico laws. send them to a federal pen far far away. stop throwing money and smooching their asses. it doesnt take a village...it takes a federal conviction!stop thinking these predators can be saved.
I havnt noticed any trouble with AIRA cuz I NEVER have a pdt..what a joke...all the bosses are so worried about whos getting what day off..how about taking inventory of what works and get on the horn and get shit done ...
Dont worry the raccoon is only talking to the uneducated south side rabble who know he is full of shit but have to back him because they still love obumma. Notice that he comes out with his
New and inproved plan right after he would have been blamed for the whole mess in an educated society. But no... The frank and fran love fest persists like a tuberculan terminal cough. But all is fair in love (rahmmy) and war against the greedy police. The media hates you and rahm and daley hate you even more.
I got one for you, get this, in 010 a rapid from days is sitting in the box at around 19th and Troy. There really isnt much to do on 19th and Troy, that area was burned up by the department with warrants etc. so the squad car literally sits at the corner and does nothing. Dispatacher asks who is going to sit on the box, The sgt. asks 1022 to sit in the box. What happens next? While 1022 is in the box, on 15th and spaulding a man gets shot and later dies. The irony is epic in its retardation. 1022 is on its beat,but they can't patrol their beat, they have to stay in their box. Meanwhile someone gets it on their beat while they are down because they have to. But when the Commander gets grilled at COMPstat you know she's not going to say "Well if that car would have been patrolling its beat instead of sitting in the box maybe that shooting wouldn't have happened.." I can only imagine how they talk behind closed doors. "Lets reinvent the wheel, call it a mobile vehicle discus, take credit for being fucking geniuses."
By ”hot people”, does he plan on focusing on the minority population that's responsible for the majority of the crime? If not, don't expect any positive change.
WOW!!! This "Gang Problem" mush have just crept up on us. Mayor Daley said a few years ago that we didnt have a "Gang Problem", now we do...
Must have been since Rahm's election...
Those new programs would be nice if only there was one of those computer things, I believe its called a pdt, in the car but more importantly make sure the camera is functioning for officers safety.
Kinda OT but this one really got me down.
Old timer had a woodworking shop in his backyard that got burglarized. They broke out a window. Old guy was torn up about it, a lot of the stuff they took belonged to his father and was over 100 years old. Get the ball rolling, get an ET there to see what he can scratch up. Cruised around the area for a couple hours to see what I could.
Sure enough, two hours later, M1, about 16, riding a bike down an alley three blocks over, carrying a huge antique woodworkers plane. Bingo. Keep him in the corner of my eye so he'll lead me back to the rats nest. Pulls up to a garage and goes in a side door.
Bingo.
I mosey up to the side door that is open, inside are a group of little bastards surrounded by the old mans antique woodworkers tools. Bingo.
Judge just let them all off scott free for lack of PC. She said my contact and 'subsequent search' was no good. He lied and said he didn't have the woodworker plane with him on the bike when I saw him and that I just burst into the garage at random. Yah right, but she believed them.
The old guy got most of his tools back so thats good news and he was really happy, but this one really burned my ass.
It's enough to drive us to drink.....more.
No. A LOT MORE!
What's wrong with MY strategy?
-Chalkie
Kinda OT but this one really got me down.
Old timer had a woodworking shop in his backyard that got burglarized. They broke out a window. Old guy was torn up about it, a lot of the stuff they took belonged to his father and was over 100 years old. Get the ball rolling, get an ET there to see what he can scratch up. Cruised around the area for a couple hours to see what I could.
Sure enough, two hours later, M1, about 16, riding a bike down an alley three blocks over, carrying a huge antique woodworkers plane. Bingo. Keep him in the corner of my eye so he'll lead me back to the rats nest. Pulls up to a garage and goes in a side door.
Bingo.
I mosey up to the side door that is open, inside are a group of little bastards surrounded by the old mans antique woodworkers tools. Bingo.
Judge just let them all off scott free for lack of PC. She said my contact and 'subsequent search' was no good. He lied and said he didn't have the woodworker plane with him on the bike when I saw him and that I just burst into the garage at random. Yah right, but she believed them.
The old guy got most of his tools back so thats good news and he was really happy, but this one really burned my ass.
5/30/2012 03:15:00 AM
Great work office, the most important thing is the old man got most of his stuff back..... Keep the thieves on your radar, they will step on their dick sooner or later.
A friend just called and told me about an emergency community meeting held in East Hyde Park last night over the shooting there.
Carrothers got chewed out big time by Retired Deputy Chief Michael Hoke for the the police response to the problems in the area. He said Carrothers did not have a response to anything Hoke stated.
He said the troops were out in force last night but is waiting to see what happens in a month.
I like the way the press vetted McBullshit--oh, they didn't, did they?
Just ask the NYPD and Newark guys about him.
This guy couldn't run a hot dog stand.
Nice perspective from Walter Jacobson last night, finally.
The solution is simple. Clearly the tact teams were the muscle of the nato event.....not taking away from the bike team who did a great job. The tact teams in the whole city need to work every eeekend in the summer no exceptions give them monday tuesday wed off and have them work 10 hour days thursday fri sat sun......stagger there times so that there is an abundance of tac guys all day long....also have two holding facilities ...noryh and south ....so when a tac guy makes an arrest he hands them off to a processing team do they could hit the streets again......on monday tuesday and wed...overload the watch in those day off groups to make sure the city isnt up for grabs....although historically more crime happens over the weekend ......the arm bands witg the scanners are a good idea to keep track of arrestees......i think its ridiculous that you have tac guys working days lets say on a monday morning in 20, 19, 16 etc etc when they can be used at night on the weekends....yes it would have to be tweaked ...but its a start...some districts even have 6 and 8 teams...imagine the man power on weekends....and i believe they should all be in bdu's...if there arent enough cars rent a couple vans and do the platoon thing....what do i know i just work here....
SG
this "new" stategy is not new. when real coppers existed on this job all that information they are talking about existed on the back of contact cards and scraps of paper shoved into vest covers and back pockets.those coppers knew who was hot for warrants etc. etc..now it takes huberman's boy and millions of dollars to make this the latest best thing.
Judge just let them all off scott free for lack of PC. She said my contact and 'subsequent search' was no good. He lied and said he didn't have the woodworker plane with him on the bike when I saw him and that I just burst into the garage at random. Yah right, but she believed them.
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Great system right? What also irks me is how states attorneys want cases so bad and brag about their long sentencing statutes and thats why they dont want us going federal. We all know its because anita wants to do press conferences and take credit for all of our work. And on the cases we do bring to state they make plea bargains every fkg time. Nobody goes to jail in cook county.
Sure enough, two hours later, M1, about 16, riding a bike down an alley three blocks over, carrying a huge antique woodworkers plane. Bingo. Keep him in the corner of my eye so he'll lead me back to the rats nest. Pulls up to a garage and goes in a side door.
Bingo.
I mosey up to the side door that is open, inside are a group of little bastards surrounded by the old mans antique woodworkers tools. Bingo.
Judge just let them all off scott free for lack of PC. She said my contact and 'subsequent search' was no good. He lied and said he didn't have the woodworker plane with him on the bike when I saw him and that I just burst into the garage at random. Yah right, but she believed them.
The old guy got most of his tools back so thats good news and he was really happy, but this one really burned my ass.
5/30/2012 03:15:00 AM
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Judge's name, please.
This is what McCarthy has changed in CPD and I firmly believe has some influence on the rise in vilolence:
- no hiring. We're understaffed.
- elimination of a decent sized citywide unit to address crime spikes.
- closing and consolidation of districts.
- closing and consolidation of detective areas.
- restructuring of the chain of command (elimination of W.C. and addition of XO)
Unforyunately it would take a dissertation to explain in detail how each of these items can, and very well may have, influenced crime fighting strategies. Here's a for instance: called Area North about an I.A. on a guy issued out of Area 4. No one knew where the original dick was presently assigned and no one knew where the I.A. file was (in what Area). In simple terms, no one gave a shit because of the confusion and stress associated with a poorly thought out reorginization process.
From the Common Sense Forum:
New Stategy —
1) Hire police.
2) Jail time for offenders.
3) Require payment of fines and penalties from offenders by tapping into their entitlements.
The complete OPPOSITE of what the City, County and State does right now.
50 sock monkeys sit on city council and none of them have a word to say.
Cease Fire is a bigger "Con" than the Model Cities program was in the 70's. It is a federal money program for repeat offendes too old to be shorties.
The media is reporting Jan to may we have had more shootings in 2012 than 2011, so how is CPD stating may is the same , what about Jan to April .?
What's different, oh yeah the units were disbanded
I am so happy that Rahm and Garry are here to save we merry band of country bumpkins from being overtaken by gang murders. Damn hayseeds that we are. What is this, the 5th new anti-violence strategy undertaken in a year?
Sounds like back in the 60's when every few years Russia would embark on a new 5 year plan for economic growth.
Well, a a Russian factory worker used to say, We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us.
Go you McBooze!
What we really need here are more liberal democrats as police officers. Then they could reason with the criminals, perhaps tell them to knock it off or something.
5/30/2012 01:18:00 AM
Spot is not burned up. Perhaps if you look in your squad's rear view mirror you would see 4 juvie dope boys posted on 19/albany. The business is to lucrative to shut down. Doesnt help when you face the squad west and just park.
to the copper who grabbed the little shitheads with the old mans woodworking tools--- nice pinch, sometimes it goes south in court but they will do it again and next time it might stick--- I'm sure that the old guy told all his friends and family members about how he called the police after discovering that he had been burglarized and they not only caught all the offenders but also recovered his property....
I've got a proposal: the Mayor publicly calls on the Reverands to preach the following - cooperate with the police, and the congregation will back you up 100%, and any member of my congregation that doesn't will be booted out of the church.
Throw that out there publicly - your lapdog Ms. Speilman would be happy to print it, Mayor. See if they'll take you up on it.
And if they don't, throw in the towel and blame them.
3:15am....sorry you lost, sounds like the handywork of Judge Sullivan
12:47am...having been tact yourself you should realize that you could have 10,000 guys working follow ups to shootings and still not get mcuh of an increase in agg batt or murder charges for lack of credible/cooperative witnesses and victims. Tact teams are like saturation teams, stop people and hope for the best result, take potential "victims" off the street for a few hours. Tact teams should be allowed to do the 99 south confidential again, that would help rope in the better and bigger stuff.
Cameras, strategies and computers don't catch crooks..cops do !!!!!
"New crime strategy
Fails to address the real problem
Savage citizens
Haiku Drew"
--5/30/2012 01:01:00 AM
Ah, so desu ka!
I bow to you, Sir.
I bow, and hiss politely.
Judge just let them all off scott free for lack of PC. She said my contact and 'subsequent search' was no good. He lied and said he didn't have the woodworker plane with him on the bike when I saw him and that I just burst into the garage at random. Yah right, but she believed them.
The old guy got most of his tools back so thats good news and he was really happy, but this one really burned my ass.
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Unless you're new to the CPD and Crook County, this shouldn't come as a surprise to you.
Examples like this are exactly why I give the ghetto jagoffs the minimal when it comes to investigations. For example, I would've NEVER gone out of my way looking for that mans tools had it been some prick that muttered even a single "took y'all long enough to get here". We've all been to jobs like this, often multiple times in the same tour.
There are exceptions like the one you cite, but for the most part I leave these bastards to their own devices and simply document todays "tragedy" and drive off smiling. I refuse to give 100% to a mutt that first looks at me sideways after he called for service and then "ain't sure" of the brand, size and replacement cost of the plasma television just taken in a burglary. Order the ET to process this scene? Hell. Fucking. No.
Again, there are some people that deserve us going the extra mile for them, and I applaud your efforts in this case, but then you have to realize that this is Crook County, where the criminals are more believable and have more rights than the police and law abiding citizens alike.
Save your time, efforts and aggravation for those truly deserving of same - it'll make you feel better knowing you didn't waste your whole day babysitting unappreciative savages..
Hey Scc, just wanted to give you a heads up. Sgt. Jason Kaczynski who was the sgt who shot the offender who killed officer thor soderberg in the parking lot in 007 was performing a search warrant last night at about 2200hrs in 006 and had a massive heart attack. He stopped breating on scene and had to be given cpr on the scene and on the way to the hospital. Apparently he doesnt look very good and is in a coma and on a ventilator at univeristy of chicago. The odds they are giving him are extremely grim. Its a very sad situation and so far there has been about zero coverage about it. our thoughts and prayers are with his family
When you consider the vast improvements in paramedic training and ER/Trauma care as compared to 10 years ago, the true "homicide" rate is probably double what the stats show, its just that most shooting victims now survive their injuries vs 10 years ago when many of these same survivors would never had lived to make it to an ER. The real stats that should be looked at are the rate of agg batts with firearms, and the agg discharge rates.
You two are some real Bird-brains....i wont mention any names!
rahm found city dollars to hire 90
cease fire employees .
All that has to be done is to feed those cuffs everyday and keep busy. No more whining. That is all.
Its obvious to everyone, except the Mayor, that it was a huge mistake to make the campaign pledge to "put one thousand cops on the street" without thinking through what long term effects this would have on crime and the ability of CPD to respond to it. Instead of just shuffling around officers that were already on the street, Mayor Emanuel should be working with the city council to pass budgets that hire new police officers or on getting money from federal Justice Dept.grants. No, Mayor Rham, you and your puppet Garry "never say anything about manpower to keep my job" McCarthy played the voters for fools and now you two are looking like fools. You should have left the MSF and TRU units continue their activities or even increased it so they could respond to hot spots, which are ever changing across the city. And now your great solution is to give the taxpayers money to the "reformed" gang bangers in Cease Fire? Back in the 60s and 70s, millions of dollars in federal funds were channeled to the gangs through fronting community groups like in Wooldlawn (Black Peace Stone Nation) supposedly to reduce crime and improve living conditions in the city.Look at the homicide stats and see what year ('74) had the highest number of killings. This was after the Feds gave the community groups millions for a decade and the city got nothing for it except higher crime.If you truly want to make the city safer,dont give city funds to gang members, instead bring back proactive police units, arrest the gang bangers,lock them up and throw the key away.
To: 5/30/2012 03:15:00 AM
You know the deal, down 3 cars to surround the garage. Obtain a warrant, and use the post miranda statements. Otherwise no case.
Progressives have ruined this city and America.
13-year-olds usually do have some kind of fatal beef with 22-year-old convicts.
My Boy, He Ees A Good Boy.
Man charged with fatally shooting boy in pizzeria
By William Lee Tribune reporter
7:00 a.m. CDT, May 30, 2012
"A Rogers Park man is accused of fatally shooting a 13-year-old boy inside an Uptown pizzeria after yelling gang slogans at him...
"Ivan Alanis was with his older sister and her friend inside a pizza and liquor store in the 5100 block of North Broadway [AT 2:30 IN THE MORNING] when they encountered Andre Alejandro, 22, police said. Alejandro began yelling at the boy and the two argued and then Alejandro left...
"Alejandro, a member of the Gangster Disciples street gang, returned to the front of the business with a handgun and fired into the building, striking the boy in the face...
"Ivan, of the 7400 block of North Western Avenue, was taken to Advocate Illinois Masonic Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead...
"Alejandro, of the 1400 block of West Chase Avenue, is charged with first-degree murder...Alejandro has more than two dozen arrests and two felony convictions.
"While police said Ivan was affiliated with a rival gang, his father Rogelio Alanis told the Tribune his son wasn't involved in any gangs.
"He was a good person," Alanis said..."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-man-charged-with-fatally-shooting-boy-as-he-ate-pizza-20120530,0,2327111.story
025 just now, robbery offender grabbed 1223 Springfield, dye pack blew on him, still looking for possible second offender.
Bank 7227 W Addison was hit.
REAL good witness can ID, goodbye sucker. Stil looking for possible second.
"I mosey up to the side door that is open, inside are a group of little bastards surrounded by the old mans antique woodworkers tools. Bingo.
"Judge just let them all off scott free for lack of PC..."
--5/30/2012 03:15:00 AM
Do a job a work and you get this.
Maybe they will clean out the judge's place next, who knows.
"If we hire more cops they'll just be assigned to watch the political protestors downtown."
--5/30/2012 12:48:00 AM
NATO is over -- for everybody but Andy Thayer.
Biggest thing to happen in his whole life since he first got...well, you know.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2012-03/263656480-19113120.jpg
The victims being murdered on our streets are nobodies. Who the fuck cares if Joe Schmo gets shot. Nobody. Now let one of our fine politicians have one of their own hit with a slug and all hell would break loose. How about one of the Racoon's kids getting grazed with a stray bullet fired by some maniac animal Gangbanger. The old shit would hit the fan. When our "leaders" start writing these shootings off as the same as last year you get the message real fast. We...you...don't count.
Until you change the "culture" of the folks where all these shootings are happening nothing will change. And changing the culture just ain't gonna happen...ever.
Judges are liberal scum. Too bad the element can't be uprooted and moved to lake forest where their sanctuary is. It's so bad now that I can't even look a judge in the eye during trial because I hate them so much and never stand upon them entering the courtroom. they don't show respect for me and I don't display any respect for them. Period
As long as the public tolerates this spoon fed bullshit from the 5th floor nothing will change. I just think we have become so numbed by all the violence we just don't care any more. We hope that violence doesn't thouch our lives, but chances are someone you care about will be victimized. And that someone could also be YOU.
Just when I thought I had seen and heard of just about everything the story of the asshole in Miami eating another guys face off. It struck me as being like the Night of the Living Dead. Maybe this stuff isn't so much science fiction. The Dead walk and vote on election day in Crook County and now we might all be on the menu. bon apitite
Bottom line is nobody knows what to do. Who ever said chicago needs the drug trade is correct. The drug money probably can be followed all the way to the top. They are just running out of ideas of how to play it to the media/public
They want you to believe that all these murders are gang related so that gives the imppression that it does not mean much,they are just killing each other so don't worry.
It is massaging of the truth, a dude gets gunned down and he was in a gang 20 years ago they say gang related. The truth is there are just as many if not more non gang related murders and shootings.
We have all seen as the section 8 killers have been dispersed from the high rises they have spread their violence to all parts of the city and into the suburbs. They should have left them where they were just killing each other.
OT: Why is it that the politicians freely admit that the employees have had no hand in the pension crisis but their only solution to fix it is at our expense? Why not start cutting all these useless programs for useless bums who have never contributed anything to society until the pensions are solvent. That is the intent of the bill Quinn signed last year to force the city to honor their debt.
http://www.wgnradio.com/news/local/breaking/chi-cops-police-sergeant-hospitalized-after-becoming-ill-on-duty-20120529,0,388112.story?track=rss
Thoughts and Prayers are needed right now....
Remember this ASSHOLE and the one in SPRINGFIELD AKA( Madigan ) are trying to fuck with our pensions . so be sure to give a 110 percent out there.........Be Safe,finish your tour and go home alive.......There endeth the lesson
Woodworking copper, are you really surprised by anything that a crook county judge come up with??
You said it at the end, at least the old timer got his tools back.
Remember, if you expect nothing from the crook county courts then you will never be disappointed.
Do what you can then, most importantly, go home at the end of your tour.
Well at least we are making progress. It only took Gary one whole year to realize chicago has a gang problem. Maybe in a couple years he will realize we also have a manpower shortage.
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I have no doubt he knows the manpower situation is less than ideal. I am pretty sure he also knows the city's financial condition dictates the manpower situation won't get any better real soon.
I have a PDT but the little circle is always red. So it makes a nice in car coffee table. Thanks 35th and Michigan!
To woodworking burglar cop....,,good police work !. thats all you can do. ive been dispointed at the judicial sytem for years now - i quit caring. i just do my end as right as i can..
Could denying furlo extentions, ala 010 Cmdr. Maria Peña, be part of the "New, new strategy"? She's keeping more officers on their beat!
...and yes, triple threat cmdr, we know that it's in a General Order. You've pounded that message home thru your underlings. But have a heart, some people actually needed the extensions you denied. They have disappointed children at home thanks to you.
Would you miss vacation with your children?
Do you really think a few days on the front or back of a furlo is going to 'bring your numbers up'?
So far, your reign has been a bust.
I have a "New" Strategy - pay your police!
...sitting in the box at around 19th and Troy. There really isnt much to do on 19th and Troy, that area was burned up by the department with warrants etc. so the squad car literally sits at the corner and does nothing. Dispatacher asks who is going to sit on the box, The sgt. asks 1022 to sit in the box. What happens next? While 1022 is in the box, on 15th and spaulding a man gets shot and later dies. The irony is epic in its retardation. 1022 is on its beat,but they can't patrol their beat, they have to stay in their box. Meanwhile someone gets it on their beat while they are down because they have to.
5/30/2012 01:18:00 AM
Sorry you got the paper, THANKS!!
Sincerely, 1022
Is anyone surprised at the community alerts with regard to the increase in the number burglaries?
Funny how the timing of the increase seems to coincide with the expiration of the extended unemployment insurance benefits eh?
We ain't seen nothing yet.
Well at least you guys get to drink.
The mayor and his goons have targeted the people working on the edge of society in the ghetto, targeting the liquor stores now and are bound determined to shut them all down.
Mayor you're doing it wrong.
Pushing more people out of society instead of pulling them in. You are going to bust this city with your plan. We can't afford it.
At this guy is trying to do something. Give him a break and let him work.
This calls for thinking "Out of the Box'
Walter Jacobson's perspective was pretty good last night. Anyone else see it?
Anonymous said...
its nuts. This box crap is rediculous. These guys are so over policed and taken in for such garbage that they arent even carrying a single bag of weed around. They dont even drink a beer on the street etc. Its not a success because they "got the message" they just know they will go to jail for it. Its all petty crap. They know the police are not going to run up into the house anymore. Everything is in the house. These boxes and the expected arrests every night is getting nuts. There is no need for this mandatory arrests junk. Im tired of having to bring in numbers just to say we have numbers. great, you went out and got a guy with 4 bags of weed and 8 contact cards.....
5/30/2012
You stated you are tired of being told to bring in petty arrests and forced to do contact cards and dispersals. Well here's the big question- why are you doing it, stand up, grow a set of balls and don't bring in the useless, petty activity. What are they going to do to you if you don't sandbag someone?
OT:
The World Class Sanctuary City of Death Showcase.
WHERE'S ALL THE NATO BUSINESS WE WERE SUPPOSE TO GET? MAYOR?
News Flash.
The Euro zone is failing!
The exchange rate on the euro vs the US dollar has gone from 1 euro == $1.33 USD just prior to the NATO summit to 1 euro = $1.26 USD today and it's still falling.
That means it's more expensive for the Euro zone traveler to come to the Sanctuary city.
Whereas 100 euros used to buy you a $133 US dollar hotel room it now only buys you a $126 dollar hotel room. That's about a 7% loss of purchasing power in a matter of weeks !!!!
Do you think that they are still coming?
Prior to NATO the world bank was only worried about Greece going bankrupt. Now it's spread to Spain and it's spreading further.
Russia is p.o'ed about the NATO missile shield. Pakistan is p.o.ed about NATO drones killing their people.
Up in Canada students have been on strike for over 105 days and counting with protests of 20,000 or more as Montreal tries to respond with stricter anti protest/assembly laws it's not gotten much worse.
There's been 33 days of massive street protests and they are not being deterred by the new $800 dollar anti-protest fines. What Montreal accomplished here was the expansion of a student tuition strike into a general constitutional rights rebellion and it's full on.
Why should we be concerned with all this overseas junk?
Well because of the Euro crisis the US treasury yields just hit a new record low and that my friends will impact the rate of return on your pensions, 401k's, IRA's, and fixed income savings.
All your retirees, and we are facing an historical demographic surge of them, the boomers, that are fortunate enough to have any fixed income investments to live off of just got another pay cut. Prepare for the trickle down effects of lost revenue..lost jobs..lost opportunities.
The non-retirees may just tighten up on their spending too as they see their savings growing less because of the lower treasury yields.
Don't hold you breath waiting for the so-called financial NATO summit windfall profits. I don't see travelers wanting to pay a premium to frolic in the World Class Sanctuary City of Death Showcase anytime soon.
OT.
Major screw-up by the WSJ in this article. They seem to think the pension bill affects City workers...
WSJ
May 29, 2012, 7:21 p.m. ET
Rahmbo vs. Springfield
Chicago's mayor says Illinois pensions are breaking his city.
As White House chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel helped stick the country with ObamaCare, but as Chicago mayor he's trying not to let a crisis go to waste in a good way. If only lawmakers in Springfield would heed his advice on pension reforms.
Regarding benefits for public employees, Illinois makes California look tough. Many teachers don't pay a penny toward pensions but can retire at age 60 with an annuity equal to 65% of their final salary plus a 3% annual compounded cost-of-living increase. The state's pension bill, which has quadrupled in five years, consumes all $7 billion of additional revenue from last year's income and corporate tax hikes. Even so, the pension funds are projected to go bust in a decade.
Rating agencies have threatened Illinois with a multiple-notch downgrade if lawmakers don't restructure benefits in their budget due this week. The raters worry that pensions are causing the state to delay payments to creditors—Illinois has a $9 billion backlog of unpaid bills—and squeezing local budgets, thereby making municipal defaults more likely. Mr. Emanuel is warning that retirement costs could drive up Chicago's property taxes by 150% over the next three years and increase class sizes to 55 students.
Maybe the embarrassment of being compared to Greece is finally getting to Illinois Governor Pat Quinn. Last month the Democrat proposed to increase worker pension contributions by three percentage points of their pay to 11% from 8% for most state employees, raise the retirement age to 67 from 60 and modestly reduce cost-of-living raises. The changes would be voluntary, though Mr. Quinn wants to rescind retirement health benefits for workers who reject his plan.
Unions say they'll sue if lawmakers approve the Governor's reforms. They argue that reducing pensions for current workers and retirees is illegal and that the "voluntary" plan is coercive. But state and federal courts have ruled that lawmakers can tweak benefits if necessary to protect public welfare. Minnesota and Colorado defended their reductions in cost-of-living increases on such grounds.
Illinois could do the same by quoting Mr. Emanuel's press conference earlier this month advocating bolder reforms: "Costs associated with maintaining the retirement system has come to a point that you cannot do the basic things that you need to do as a city, in providing for your residents—whether that's garbage collection, recycling, areas of public safety—and maintain those obligations."
Legislators are nonetheless skittish about passing significant reforms in an election year. While they want to get credit with voters for doing something about pensions and don't want another credit downgrade, they fear union wrath.
Which means they'll likely water down Mr. Quinn's reforms and serve up the resulting gruel to voters as creme brulee. House Speaker Michael Madigan has already taken the retirement age and employee contributions off the table. He also wants to exempt Chicago workers and judges who would hear constitutional challenges on the reforms.
Lawmakers are way behind the voters on this one. By a three-to-one margin, voters favor reducing pension benefits over paying higher taxes. Mr. Emanuel is offering good counsel.
"New crime strategy
Fails to address the real problem
Savage citizens
Haiku Drew"
Dearest Haiku Drew
Last poem was not correct
Excess syllables
FOLLOW THE MONEY...
2011-05-06
Gov. Pat Quinn put up more than $100 million in financial incentives to persuade smartphone company Motorola Mobility to keep its corporate headquarters in Libertyville
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-05-06/business/ct-biz-0507-motorola-incentives-20110506_1_tax-credit-package-pat-quinn-quinn-sign
One year later...
May 26, 2012
By Wailin Wong, Chicago Tribune reporter
Departing Motorola Mobility Chief Executive Sanjay Jha is collecting about $64.3 million as he leaves the Libertyville-based company, which is now a wholly owned subsidiary of Google.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-05-26/business/ct-biz-0527-moto-payday--20120526_1_higher-than-normal-stock-awards-equity-awards-golden-parachute
And you can bet your azz that more executives with glorious golden parachute plans are following.
Several Other Motorola Executives Join Sanjay Jha in Heading for the Exits
http://allthingsd.com/20120522/several-other-motorola-executives-join-sanjay-jha-in-heading-for-the-exits/
All subsidized by the $100 million dollar tax break package no?
Whos head of the crystal ball unit this time
These Big Boss Buffoons are a TOTAL waste of Taxpayers Dollars. They have more than proven themselves to be totally incompetent at solving the City's Major Crime problems, or even putting a dent in it, so why the Hell aren't they demoted to Lower-paying jobs? Are they kicking back to keep their spots, and know too much? Are their political sponsors afraid to do anything to them for fear they will spill the beans on their Pay to Play, under the table deals? Sure looks that way to me.
May God bless CPD members for having to put up with the incredible amount of Bullshit you people have to deal with every day, with your incompetent, Clouted, Useless and Clueless Leadership.
OT
SCC, looks like your blog is worth $25k
http://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/secondcitycop.blogspot.com
I know I'm a hot person. I look damned good. I'm sexaaaaaaaaaay.
Come and target me.
OT --
From farther down the blog --
"The city will never be the same" "cop-burners" update --
Brian Church appears to still be in Div. 8, Cermak Hospital at Cook County Jail. Must be a good actor.
Jared Chase and Brent Betterly appear to have been moved to Division 9.
"Division IX
2834 W. 31st Street Chicago, IL 60608
Opened in December of 1992, Division IX was designed to hold 1,056 super maximum security males. Currently Division IX, which is comprised of two interconnected three-story buildings, houses general population inmates with a maximum security classification. The division also houses the Level System (consisting of four sections of housing for inmates that committed disciplinary infractions while in custody), Disciplinary Segregation, the WIMP (Weapons In My Possession) tier, and Protective Custody for maximum security inmates."
Bond on all 3 is set at $1.5 million, next court date June 12 at 2600 S. Cal.
Someone on serious charges can be in there a year, two years easy. The more Communist lawyers you have yelling this and filing that, the more continuances it will go through.
Might actually be better off firing the Occupy bunch of grandstanders -- it's not like you're actually a member of anything tangible, it's not like you were acting in someone's behalf and have any sort of contract or agreement with them -- and just taking your two minutes with the Public Defender, whose function is to produce one obligatory squeak of protest during the process of your ass being rubber-stamped "GUILTY" and shipped to the state prison.
Next!
People have NO IDEA what a "court appearance" means. "Bullpen continuance" is one amusing variation. I won't spoil it.
If you like Dungeons and Dragons, you'll LOVE this place.
OT:
Teachers are going to strike, all the unions should have one large meeting (include membership) and hash out any differences between them.
OT - cfd has been in the news regarding their contract negotiations. Why have we not heard from FOP? Something you want to tell us mikey?
Somebody better start giving us the truth regarding the contract. A call to the state lodge is forthcoming.
Let me guess. The F1 Juvie judge who handles 011? She is the absolute worst! She believes sll the poor babies no gots arrested by the big bad police. At least the old guy got his tools back.
Yeah, but what NATO? We did real good right, never mind about murders. We kick some hippie ass and saved some windows...southside murders dont mean anything...
Politicians have created this mess. Sanctuary City, entitlements, no family values, lack of understanding as to how Civilized People live & act, etc, etc.....
All that matters to the Democratic machine is that they keep the animals happy so they Vote for the thieves & asshole that created this mess.
40ozers & Cheap wine should contain large amounts of anti-psychotic drugs to soothe the savage beasts.
Jane Byrne moved into Cabrini Green, Rahm boy should move into Englewood !!
Let's go get some pancakes !!!!
I bet someone from the DOC will be promoted to sergeant. Yes, patrol makes the arrest and Winters and his wimpy analyst get to hide in the office and provide us with useless officer safety alerts. It would make plenty of sense to send all of the analyst back on the street no matter how dopey they are.
manpower is so short that if anybody checks the sheets in 010, there is absolutely nobody to man any rápids on 2nd watch for tomorrow..so someone tell me how is the rest of the watch suppose to function, backlogs early in the morning. Backlogs in the afternoon, backlogs thru out the day. Beats are given jobs in other beats, more than half of beat cars are one man cars, and when in progress calls goes out, less cars to handle jobs. Robberies, burglaries, thefts any every other crime is up in the 010 district. Oh not to mention homicides oops murders are up. But there is no manpower shortage. Wake up mcflurry and gets your head out of Rahms ass, and get your facts straight about gangs, drugs and the violent cycle in the city before making such stupid comments regarding the violence. And rahmy just wondering what does not having a job, and the city having jobs have to do with the violence in the city.
Why would anyone give a flying fuck if some piece of garbage drug dealer or gangbanger gets killed? When a piece of shit gangbanger or drug dealer gets killed it is in my humble opinion a civic improvement. So , the way I see it Commander McBrag (McJersey Shore) shouldn't change a thing. Good Job Supe , keep up the good work.
a "new strategy".......hah! if bullshit were music, Rahm and Mc Lost would be the whole orchestra...
and.....consider this scenario....
Chicago's west and south sides, along with selected events on the lakefront, are the iceberg, and Rahm and McLost are the captains of the Titanic (i.e., the CPD)....
McLost: oops, looks like we're in trouble!
Rahm: nah!....I know the President!
McLost: hey boss, we have lots of murders and shootings....what to do?
Rahm: strike up the band! and, plenty of ice for our visitors!
The old guy got most of his tools back so thats good news and he was really happy, but this one really burned my ass.
5/30/2012 03:15:00 AM
I learned that lesson the hard way too, and that's when I gave up on everything. Now I don't do shit. It's too depressing to give your all and have some libtard judge let people go. Good police work=no atta boy, nothing. Just once in a blue moon you get to do a little something for a citizen.
OT, but saw this title in front of CPS HQ today -
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2011/05/new-mayor-planning-rahms-readers-program-for-children.html
Man, he just loves to see his name everywhere...made me want to puke.
--No Cop Here
You have no integrity mayor, CPD, media.
via msnbc...
"Live Grenades Found in Wrigleyville?"
But there's no talk of terrorist attacks or of charges related to the possession of explosive devices etc...
OF COURSE NOT.
Mo instead we read that these WMD's are perhaps part of a war memorabilia collection and therefore everything is a-okay. Nothing to worry about here. What are you trying to do blow the cities "World Class" image or something?
Quite a disparity of hype when compared to some out of state kids protesting NATO with beer making equipment in their apartment accused of making those mazel tov cocktails.
Where's DHS? No integrity.
I hear that everyone's pension is getting hacked apart with the exception of the judges.
So much for the "we're all in this together" shit.
Anonymous said...
I hear that everyone's pension is getting hacked apart with the exception of the judges.
So much for the "we're all in this together" shit.
5/30/2012 06:01:00 PM
Shut up. Didn't you see the boss's handing us expired water on 22nd and Michigan. Quit crying and do your job. I don't do this job for the pension. Real police don't care about the pension they care about the mission and doing the right thing.
Signed, Sheep Dog, Ranger....
Carrothers got chewed out big time by Retired Deputy Chief Michael Hoke for the the police response to the problems in the area. He said Carrothers did not have a response to anything Hoke stated.
If Chief Hoke had been appointed Superintendent after PC's tenure, you, and we, would have a much different, better department, without the carpetbaggers. :-(
The solution is simple. Clearly the tact teams were the muscle of the nato event.....not taking away from the bike team who did a great job. The tact teams in the whole city need to work every eeekend in the summer no exceptions give them
Oh yeah getting (2) one baggers and (3) pissers will do the job, great idea genius. Get off your high horse Tact isn't what it used to be (on the street)...not even close!
Anonymous said...
The solution is simple. Clearly the tact teams were the muscle of the nato event.....not taking away from the bike team who did a great job. The tact teams in the whole city need to work every eeekend in the summer no exceptions give them monday tuesday wed off and have them work 10 hour days thursday fri sat sun......stagger there times so that there is an abundance of tac guys all day long....also have two holding facilities ...noryh and south ....so when a tac guy makes an arrest he hands them off to a processing team do they could hit the streets again......on monday tuesday and wed...overload the watch in those day off groups to make sure the city isnt up for grabs....although historically more crime happens over the weekend ......the arm bands witg the scanners are a good idea to keep track of arrestees......i think its ridiculous that you have tac guys working days lets say on a monday morning in 20, 19, 16 etc etc when they can be used at night on the weekends....yes it would have to be tweaked ...but its a start...some districts even have 6 and 8 teams...imagine the man power on weekends....and i believe they should all be in bdu's...if there arent enough cars rent a couple vans and do the platoon thing....what do i know i just work here....
SG
5/30/2012 07:24:00 AM
you are high if you think you will find guys to give up their weekends for the entire summer...
Where's DHS? No integrity.
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They like to pass off all LE responsibility to local authority. They don't want the liability of doing LE correct because people get hurt and shit gets broken! Apparently the CPD high ups and rham feel the same way... Hence "welcome to the Wild wild west folks (or people) which ever you prefer! Legal tax paying Citizens better get your six shooters out, its almost sundown!
OT OT OT Looks like IAD and Feds are arresting officers regarding Tow Truck scandal
More to follow Check Unit 023 for confirmation
Have any of the pigeons that haunt the rafters at City Hall had the courage to tell Rahmbo that he is failing? Police work was never about parking tickets, bus checks, misdemeanor arrests or any of that broken windows strategy. It is about keeping the city safe. It is about solving and preventing the murder of Chicago's citizens. In this, the most important mission a police department has, Rahm Emanuel has failed. Shame on you Rahm Emanuel.
"What's wrong with MY strategy?
-Chalkie"
Agreed. At least your strategy is working.
rb
Anyone know when NATO starts? Looks like it could be a humdinger! Stay safe! Thxs in advance.
So Rahm's strategy of "putting 1,000 more officers on the street" has failed?
Hmmmm. Time to hire some more, I guess.
A friend just called and told me about an emergency community meeting held in East Hyde Park last night over the shooting there.
Carrothers got chewed out big time by Retired Deputy Chief Michael Hoke for the the police response to the problems in the area. He said Carrothers did not have a response to anything Hoke stated.
He said the troops were out in force last night but is waiting to see what happens in a month.
5/30/2012 06:42:00 AM
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President's in town this weekend, staying at his own home; you'll see lots of police presence now.
"Judge just let them all off scott free for lack of PC..."
A win for the police!
Your job is to capture the criminal.
Prosecution is the state's attorney's job.
Conviction is the judge's job.
Who failed in this scenario?
"As long as the public tolerates this spoon fed bullshit from the 5th floor nothing will change."
Absolutely true.
"We hope that violence doesn't thouch our lives, but chances are someone you care about will be victimized. And that someone could also be YOU."
Most victims come from a pool of people whose lifestyle lends itself to victimization. Take for example the 13 year old shot & killed in the pizza & liquor store at 2:30 a.m.
1. 13 year old
2. pizza & liquor store
3. 2:30 a.m.
People want to blame guns for these kind of incidents. "Another child killed" and all that crap, but few will analyze the situation and see where the problem lies...
rb
Rahm Emanuel: Firefighters not ‘immune from ... change and reform’
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Absolutely. Only Richard M. Daley, all 50 aldermen, Cullerton, Madigan and the entire Illinois General Assembly are immune to change and reform. And don't forget judges, they also are immune.
"OT: Why is it that the politicians freely admit that the employees have had no hand in the pension crisis but their only solution to fix it is at our expense? Why not start cutting all these useless programs for useless bums who have never contributed anything to society until the pensions are solvent."
Well, it's not the fault of the bums who've contributed nothing to society, either...and they're the ones who keep voting the people who support their programs into office, that's why it's at our expense.
rb
true about the judges The reason they gave was that it was tried once before and the judges legally challenged it and won Then why dont we challenge it. Thought laws pertain to all
Problem with gangs??? Ummm dont we have GANG Intel, GANG enforcement, and GANG teams???
Here's the deal. Rahm can suck manmeat. I've been watching his mercenary approach to CFD contract negotiations and it is clear he could give a shit about police and fire. I know exactly how little I have to do on this job to not get fired or disciplined. I have years of putting felons in the joint. No more. If 9.5 is gonna treat us like shit he is going to get a very unproductive cop. Let the agg batts and homicides go up. He's the asshole who needs to get reelected not me. Not my problem.
Where's the FOP at now that rahm is threatening our pensions? We better get organized fast, and strike back hard....
Important info SCC said...
Hey Scc, just wanted to give you a heads up. Sgt. Jason Kaczynski who was the sgt who shot the offender who killed officer thor soderberg in the parking lot in 007 was performing a search warrant last night at about 2200hrs in 006 and had a massive heart attack.
5/30/2012 09:59:00 AM
Any updates? My thoughts and prayers are with him and his family.
OT: This is a must read about upcoming firefighter contract proposals. Strap in boys and girls, we are about to get screwed big time.
http://www.suntimes.com/12866639-418/rahm-emanuel-firefighters-not-immune-from-change-and-reform.html
OT --
A hot one from farther down the blog --
"700 E 38th st used to be in Ida B Wells, projects no longer exist but the carnage continues."
--5/27/2012 10:59:00 AM
What can you say?
At least it's ground-level now, no refrigerators and s__t plummeting down...
Skunk
During NATO there was so much additional manpower in the working districts due to cancelled days off that there was a major down turn in the shootings and killing.
So maybe if you add 25% manpower to each watch but how? hmmm cancel days off more often or ??? Hire more police officers???
Anonymous said...
"New crime strategy
Fails to address the real problem
Savage citizens
Haiku Drew"
Dearest Haiku Drew
Last poem was not correct
Excess syllables
5/30/2012 02:47:00 PM
Clever!
Rewind:
New crime strategy
Fails to address true problem
Savage citizens
(not Haiku Drew)
Anonymous said...
OT - cfd has been in the news regarding their contract negotiations. Why have we not heard from FOP? Something you want to tell us mikey?
Somebody better start giving us the truth regarding the contract. A call to the state lodge is forthcoming.
5/30/2012 04:01:00 PM
Not a fan of Mike's but he did say many times "we don't negotiate in the media," lets hope behind the scenes the boys from FOP are working!
The only strategy I will implement is sitting back, eating my combo sandwich and watching this Sh#@ show. You think I care about these gang banging rats? You know what I mean? I only care about eating good food and drinking beer.
(OT) Chicago police commenting on what not to say when your pulled over! What "crime ridden" area do they work in?
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/what-not-to-say-when-pulled-over-by-a-cop-2010-09-10
Regarding the computer information with names, associates, etc. of gang members:
Years back the Gang Units around the city compiled yellow cards containing this same information, names, nicknames,gang affiliation, associates, I.R. numbers, etc.
These cards were invaluable in aiding in investigations, however they were judged to be illegal and the cards were subsequently destroyed.
I hope this computer information is not judged in the same manner and becomes unavailable.
As long as my cruiser has air conditioning that works and I can have a free newspaper and coffee, I really don't care much about anything else. zzzzz
Carrothers got chewed out big time by Retired Deputy Chief Michael Hoke for the the police response to the problems in the area. He said Carrothers did not have a response to anything Hoke stated.
If Chief Hoke had been appointed Superintendent after PC's tenure, you, and we, would have a much different, better department, without the carpetbaggers. :-(
5/30/2012 07:29:00 PM
Looks like Leo isn't doing any better than Carothers was even tho he's been given extra resources to make a difference. Wonder why he's not getting called on the carpet.
At least ponce had the balls to tell the truth,how many new straties do we need, to not see we need more "soldiers" more "Boots on the ground?" How much more blood has to cover rahms and the supts hands? How much more before the "Citizens go on patrol?" People will when noticing a loss of manpower in CPD take the law in their own hands watch boys and girls the punks and gang jagoffs have not seen anything yet!
We have reached a "boiling point," and the lid is going to blow and soon!
Walt Kowalski said...
The only strategy I will implement is sitting back, eating my combo sandwich and watching this Sh#@ show. You think I care about these gang banging rats? You know what I mean? I only care about eating good food and drinking beer.
5/30/2012 11:14:00 PM
Stop putting up these posts that pretend you're a police officer.
OT OT OT Looks like IAD and Feds are arresting officers regarding Tow Truck scandal
More to follow Check Unit 023 for confirmation
5/30/2012 07:59:00 PM
And isn't the timing perfect, considering our contract is about to be negotiated in the media?
Anonymous said...
Where's the FOP at now that rahm is threatening our pensions? We better get organized fast, and strike back hard....
5/30/2012 09:24:00 PM
FOP is in same place as when pensions are not being threatened, 1412 W Washington.
Go to
http://www.chicagofop.org/pension-legislation-alert-2/
And either go to the website listed in the link or call
1-888-412-6570 to be put in contact with your state senator or rep.
Do this on Thursday May 31 as the General Assembly is scheduled to vote on pension reform.
Dear 0816 am:
1. Agree
2. Agree
3. Racist; you're assuming everyone is entitled to entitlements, wrong! All I want is service. I have a crazy neighbor, everyone knows that she is, can't help you, she is ill!
She won't come out when the police show up, hence, can't do anything. Think I am making it up, ask anyone in nine, they all know her, but, as a taxpayer, I just have to deal with it. How is that right?
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
The solution is simple. Clearly the tact teams were the muscle of the nato event.....not taking away from the bike team who did a great job. The tact teams in the whole city need to work every eeekend in the summer no exceptions give them monday tuesday wed off and have them work 10 hour days thursday fri sat sun......stagger there times so that there is an abundance of tac guys all day long....also have two holding facilities ...noryh and south ....so when a tac guy makes an arrest he hands them off to a processing team do they could hit the streets again......on monday tuesday and wed...overload the watch in those day off groups to make sure the city isnt up for grabs....although historically more crime happens over the weekend ......the arm bands witg the scanners are a good idea to keep track of arrestees......i think its ridiculous that you have tac guys working days lets say on a monday morning in 20, 19, 16 etc etc when they can be used at night on the weekends....yes it would have to be tweaked ...but its a start...some districts even have 6 and 8 teams...imagine the man power on weekends....and i believe they should all be in bdu's...if there arent enough cars rent a couple vans and do the platoon thing....what do i know i just work here....
SG
5/30/2012 07:24:00 AM
Before sharing your brilliant but unacceptable idea, try spell check and grammar check before you post a response, you idiot.
Hoke's claim to fame was, bopping some of the current female exempts when they were Sgt's and P.O.s, he was also good at filing Federal law suits, just not good at winning them. In short he was an ultimate ASSHAT!
Dear 0816 am:
1. Agree
2. Agree
3. Racist; you're assuming everyone is entitled to entitlements, wrong! All I want is service. I have a crazy neighbor, everyone knows that she is, can't help you, she is ill!
She won't come out when the police show up, hence, can't do anything. Think I am making it up, ask anyone in nine, they all know her, but, as a taxpayer, I just have to deal with it. How is that right?
5/31/2012 03:45:00 AM
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Are you sure it's not YOU who crazy??
First, it's not "racist" (as you put it) to not give things to those who don't deserve it. It's right and correct, particularly when referring to criminals.
Second, the law is the law. A copper can't break the law just because you got unlucky and can't deal with a bad neighbor.
Third, learn how to fucking spell and write. It's really annoying trying to decipher the writing of assholes like you.
Until you change the "culture" of the folks where all these shootings are happening nothing will change. And changing the culture just ain't gonna happen...ever.
5/30/2012 11:26:00 AM
Judges are liberal scum. Too bad the element can't be uprooted and moved to lake forest where their sanctuary is. It's so bad now that I can't even look a judge in the eye during trial because I hate them so much and never stand upon them entering the courtroom. they don't show respect for me and I don't display any respect for them. Period
5/30/2012 11:30:00 AM
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Both correct. And where does a future judge marinate in liberalism while waiting to become a judge? As a member of the bar association. Add lawyers to the scum list.
The animal culture will never change and liberals will never see the light, but they all expect the police to solve the problems. Not going to happen regardless of the new crime fighting strategies of the past, present and future.
"At least ponce had the balls to tell the truth,how many new straties do we need, to not see we need more "soldiers" more "Boots on the ground?" How much more blood has to cover rahms and the supts hands? How much more before the "Citizens go on patrol?" People will when noticing a loss of manpower in CPD take the law in their own hands watch boys and girls the punks and gang jagoffs have not seen anything yet!
We have reached a "boiling point," and the lid is going to blow and soon!"
--5/31/2012 12:14:00 AM
See what I mean by "Frantic Andy Thayer?" Guy writes like a pneumatic hammer, simply unbearable.
Use a phrase, he picks it up two minutes later. On and on and on.
How can someone stay jacked up like this all the time?
>snif<
NATO is over and he can't stand it. I guess Loevy and Loevy pays him to do nothing, so he can spend all his time on SCC.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2012-03/263656480-19113120.jpg
The economy has a LONG way left to fall if it can still manage to support non-productive parasites like this -- in style, too.
"Most victims come from a pool of people whose lifestyle lends itself to victimization. Take for example the 13 year old shot & killed in the pizza & liquor store at 2:30 a.m.
"1. 13 year old
2. pizza & liquor store
3. 2:30 a.m."
--5/30/2012 09:07:00 PM
All of the news reports at first went on the emotional hook "Boy shot while eating pizza."
After all, the signs said "Fine Imported Spirits, Cold Beer, Cigarettes, Pizza." There you are.
The last news story I saw said that the shooting occurred "as the group was leaving the establishment."
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You don't have some 22-year-old two-time inmate with 20 arrests, GD, coming after you in a liquor place at 2:30 AM and arguing about something, being mad enough to kill you, because you were at home building model airplanes for your Scout merit badge.
I am not comfortable with the term "victimization" here; don't want to put gangbangers on an equal footing with innocent people. There is not "one big pool."
This was most probably thug lifestyle -- in which the "victim" is often equally a participant in criminal acts over on his own side of the fence.
"I hope this computer information is not judged in the same manner and becomes unavailable."
--5/30/2012 11:35:00 PM
Don't worry. CeaseFire "interrupters" will have Kaboodle on brand-new laptops; keep the street heads-up on search warrants, pass along addresses and associates to go and cap, etc.
Leo I thought you were gonna save 007? And with your merit pick of Sgt KB for LT
"Before sharing your brilliant but unacceptable idea, try spell check and grammar check before you post a response, you idiot."
--5/31/2012 05:21:00 AM
There are some very sensible ideas there -- and the poster might be out someplace with a laptop taking a minute, stuff going on around him.
Try "decency check" before you bite.
"Anyone know when NATO starts? Looks like it could be a humdinger!"
--5/30/2012 08:53:00 PM
Yeah, 4,400 'blac bloc' are coming from Canada, gonna destroy the city in a "hurricane," and 700 'anonymous' hackers in those really stupid plastic Halloween masks are coming too, to screw up the alarm clocks so all police will be sleeping.
Call me. I'm not coming out until it's over.
"Conviction is the judge's job.
"Who failed in this scenario?"
--5/30/2012 09:01:00 PM
Well, it has the sound of a haiku!
The mission cars that leave 2-3 hours early every single night and whine whenever they can't leave early...they better be doing more than just contact cards, right? RIGHT?!?
I miss 900 murders.
There were 10 more homicides since Monday. We are now at 210 a 53% increase over last year.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
The solution is simple. Clearly the tact teams were the muscle of the nato event.....not taking away from the bike team who did a great job. The tact teams in the whole city need to work every eeekend in the summer no exceptions give them monday tuesday wed off and have them work 10 hour days thursday fri sat sun......stagger there times so that there is an abundance of tac guys all day long....also have two holding facilities ...noryh and south ....so when a tac guy makes an arrest he hands them off to a processing team do they could hit the streets again......on monday tuesday and wed...overload the watch in those day off groups to make sure the city isnt up for grabs....although historically more crime happens over the weekend ......the arm bands witg the scanners are a good idea to keep track of arrestees......i think its ridiculous that you have tac guys working days lets say on a monday morning in 20, 19, 16 etc etc when they can be used at night on the weekends....yes it would have to be tweaked ...but its a start...some districts even have 6 and 8 teams...imagine the man power on weekends....and i believe they should all be in bdu's...if there arent enough cars rent a couple vans and do the platoon thing....what do i know i just work here....
SG
5/30/2012 07:24:00 AM
Before sharing your brilliant but unacceptable idea, try spell check and grammar check before you post a response, you idiot.
If we can distinguish who the tac teams are it actually might be a good idea. To the angry responder, if you don't like the idea go back to the watch, but don't be ignorant.
Signed,
A former tac guy/gang guy
Put fences around 007 and 011 and let 'survival of the fittest' rule.
Anyone who does a fucking thing on this job is an idiot...and save your 'pride' and 'do what you're paid for' sermons for the St. Sabina parishonors.
The home front should be all that matters. Not these mutts who will end up owning your home and destroying your life.
5/30/2012 06:01:00 PM
Shut up. Didn't you see the boss's handing us expired water on 22nd and Michigan. Quit crying and do your job. I don't do this job for the pension. Real police don't care about the pension they care about the mission and doing the right thing.
Signed, Sheep Dog, Ranger....
5/30/2012 07:23:00 PM
Surely you jest, Shirley!
Raccon and Mcgoofy don't care about chicago, they are going to do what they do and leave. We are the ones who have to live here and deal with the bullshit
Anonymous said...
Rahm Emanuel: Firefighters not ‘immune from ... change and reform’
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Absolutely. Only Richard M. Daley, all 50 aldermen, Cullerton, Madigan and the entire Illinois General Assembly are immune to change and reform. And don't forget judges, they also are immune.
5/30/2012 09:08:00 PM
A huge AMEN to that. Before attacking first-responders, get rid of at least half of all the fucking criminals who call themselves aldermen.
Not a peep out of Rahm about that though! How many aldermen have gone to jail in the last 20 years? Compare that ratio to the number of police who've gone to jail in that period!
Hey SG regarding your Tact schedule.....You sir are a fucking tool, You sir are what's WRONG with this department....... Obviously you aint ever been a tact or Gang guy......signed I/F..... Go look it up you clueless fuck..
"Dear 0816 am:
1. Agree
2. Agree
3. Racist; you're assuming everyone is entitled to entitlements, wrong! . . ."
Why Racist? There's nothing in 8:16's post that says ANYTHING about race. People of all races get entitlements. (Which race are YOU assuming gets all the entitlements?) The point was that where criminals get entitlements (whatever that means.. LINK, Welfare etc. I assume) the system should go after those to pay the criminal's costs. In Court everyday ASAs fill out 2 page Fees and Costs" forms as part of a Sentence order. When a defendnat gets a Pen. sentence, there is no way that money gets paid back to the Court. Taking Costs out of entitlements would certainly help with that.
--Not "8:16"
The problem with this whole new regime is that they are not offering any "new" strategies to combat crime. Not that there are a whole lot of new ideas out there. Fighting crime comes down to having an aggressive group of officers who are ready, willing and available to attack crime at its source. Guys/girls who are not afraid to make the pimpy arrests, go to court, stop fifty cars a night, grab piss bums in the alleys, do walkdowns in the jets. We had that, albeit a little bigger than it needed to be, but we had that. Over the years it has had many names, but it was there. Now it is gone. All the aggressive guys/girls are stuck on beat cars chasing calls and writing paper. Until we get proactive once again, the body count will continue to rise. Compstat will never solve crime, nor will it even come up with any crime fighting strategies, because it is an accountability system and not a crime fighting system. Our puss headed command staff are so afraid of their own shadows that they will not do anything unless it comes from McHQ, so you get a body count, yelling and no solutions. Someone will figure it out, but probably not before we hit 6 or 7 hundred dead. By then it will be too late. Oh well. Chicago, you got what you wished for, how's it taste?
Nothing coming out of 023 regarding tow truck scandle. just sayin.
Anonymous said...
The solution is simple. Clearly the tact teams were the muscle of the nato event.....not taking away from the bike team who did a great job. The tact teams in the whole city need to work every eeekend in the summer no exceptions give them monday tuesday wed off and have them work 10 hour days thursday fri sat sun......stagger there times so that there is an abundance of tac guys all day long....also have two holding facilities ...noryh and south ....so when a tac guy makes an arrest he hands them off to a processing team do they could hit the streets again......on monday tuesday and wed...overload the watch in those day off groups to make sure the city isnt up for grabs....although historically more crime happens over the weekend ......the arm bands witg the scanners are a good idea to keep track of arrestees......i think its ridiculous that you have tac guys working days lets say on a monday morning in 20, 19, 16 etc etc when they can be used at night on the weekends....yes it would have to be tweaked ...but its a start...some districts even have 6 and 8 teams...imagine the man power on weekends....and i believe they should all be in bdu's...if there arent enough cars rent a couple vans and do the platoon thing....what do i know i just work here....
SG
5/30/2012 07:24:00 AM
Before sharing your brilliant but unacceptable idea, try spell check and grammar check before you post a response, you idiot.
If we can distinguish who the tac teams are it actually might be a good idea. To the angry responder, if you don't like the idea go back to the watch, but don't be ignorant.
Signed,
A former tac guy/gang guy
5/31/2012 12:16:00 PM
I left the tac team and work a beat car. Why should tac officers agree to more sacrifice for this city? Days off a severly restricted and there is no incentives for any type of work. How many officers have to drive across the city, a round trip commute of 3 hours? I am not angry just tired of hearing the same broken song every day. New strategies for the same problem.
another "new strategy"....you have to love it.....maybe, just maybe, government should significantly increase prison sentences, build more prisons, if necessary....convict more defendants (hello, Cook County?)....maybe try that as a strategy.....is what the hell they're doing, now?
"I miss 900 murders."
Chalkie, is that you?
" Why Racist? There's nothing in 8:16's post that says ANYTHING about race..."
What does race have to do with deducting a fine or penalty from a Government handout? There's no CPD fee for coming to a disturbed "neighbor" that won't answer the door. This was not the point of the comment. Buy your city stickers and residential permits and hope some deadbeat chump doesn't block your alley or dump his '78 Skylark in front of your house on street cleaning or Sox day. Theyll never find him but the city will seek you out to pay the fine if you're illegally parked.
That's the point - most honest folks pay there bills, Entitlers don't.
Anonymous said...
The solution is simple. Clearly the tact teams were the muscle of the nato event.....not taking away from the bike team who did a great job. The tact teams in the whole city need to work every eeekend in the summer no exceptions give them monday tuesday wed off and have them work 10 hour days thursday fri sat sun......stagger there times so that there is an abundance of tac guys all day long....also have two holding facilities ...noryh and south ....so when a tac guy makes an arrest he hands them off to a processing team do they could hit the streets again......on monday tuesday and wed...overload the watch in those day off groups to make sure the city isnt up for grabs....although historically more crime happens over the weekend ......the arm bands witg the scanners are a good idea to keep track of arrestees......i think its ridiculous that you have tac guys working days lets say on a monday morning in 20, 19, 16 etc etc when they can be used at night on the weekends....yes it would have to be tweaked ...but its a start...some districts even have 6 and 8 teams...imagine the man power on weekends....and i believe they should all be in bdu's...if there arent enough cars rent a couple vans and do the platoon thing....what do i know i just work here....
SG
5/30/2012 07:24:00 AM
Before sharing your brilliant but unacceptable idea, try spell check and grammar check before you post a response, you idiot.
If we can distinguish who the tac teams are it actually might be a good idea. To the angry responder, if you don't like the idea go back to the watch, but don't be ignorant.
Signed,
A former tac guy/gang guy
5/31/2012 12:16:00 PM
I left the tac team and work a beat car. Why should tac officers agree to more sacrifice for this city? Days off a severly restricted and there is no incentives for any type of work. How many officers have to drive across the city, a round trip commute of 3 hours? I am not angry just tired of hearing the same broken song every day. New strategies for the same problem.
5/31/2012 05:18:00 PM
are you kidding me...they would have 3 str8 days off every week....on top of that they burn a slip and get 4 days off....i would love to have 3 days off a week...i dont care what days it is.
this is a great idea. the city would see a reduction in crime immediately
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