Retirees Sue
- Chicago’s 28,000 retired city workers and their dependents are asking a federal judge to block Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s plan to save $27 million in 2015 by raising monthly health insurance premiums by anywhere from 30 percent to 79 percent.
Arguing that the Illinois Supreme Court’s decision to preserve health benefits for state retirees “substantially increased” their chances of prevailing on the merits, retirees want to compel the city to roll back monthly payments to 2013 levels.
That’s when Emanuel announced plans to save $108.7 million a year by phasing out the city's 55 percent subsidy for retiree health care and forcing retirees to make the switch to Obamacare.
Remember - D E M O C R A T S are voting to fuck you right now or are actually doing the screwing as we speak. This is your future retirement - nearly 80% increases to your healthcare, a constant diminishment of benefits and court battles so you don't end up on the street.
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posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
114 Comments:
Really scc. Democrats, or the state of Chicago. I applaud your unbiased approach to issues, but pull back on this. Republican party in Illinois aims to make a killing in privatization of pensions. Ask your boy bruce. Anyone who invests millions of his own money to win a race, stands to gain something greater. Nobody is that noble!!!
There is nothing worse than to plan for your retirement and letting the city steal your dreams and welfare by huge increases in healthcare payments.
Oh silly me, the Aldermen and Rahm don't have that plan!
"D E M O C R A T S are voting to fuck you right now or are actually doing the screwing as we speak."
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Doesn't matter. We're all dumbfucks in the state of Illinois and we'll keep voting for 'em.
Could someone please post the contact info for the attorneys? I want to send those guys a check. I'm in the 55 and out group, but I don't trust this administration one iota.
That's why they are called DUMMY CRATS!!!!!!!!
Rhammy's commie brother helped author the obamacare debacle. He thinks everyone should die by their 75th birthday.
Some retirees need to quit whining and whimpering and man up. The days of sweet, for life, deals for union members are gone. Obamacare is now and the future. It's for all, including union retirees. BTW, not a single congressional republican, not one, voted for Obamacare. It was invented by and brought to you solely by the democrat party.
“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
― Margaret Thatcher
Rahm's Chicago is running out of money.
Welcome to the Democrat's Hose of Cards!
We screw the little guy so you don't have to!
Raccoon Eyes wants to put YOU and your family on Obama Care so you can get in the back of the line for medical care behind worthless parasites who have never worked and all of the illegal aliens who are flooding across our borders this very day. And the Raccoon's brother wants us all to be dead by 75 so we won't take up space.
Rahm is saving the taxpayers $108.7 million dollars. Obamacare is a fine healthcare system. Obama and the democrat party have been telling us that for several years now.
Democrats good, Republicans bad.
Wait... But they told us OBAMA CARE is going to save us....
Anyone who votes yes for our contract is drinking democratic kool-aid! Vote no on our contract.
Hey - wake up! This is their solution - cut benefits.
You BOUGHT it when you kept voting straight Democrat, year-after-year.
Balance the government? Vote in another party to keep things in check?
No way, the Democrats are going to take care of us. We gave them our votes in exchange for excessive money and benefits (YES - EXCESSIVE!!)
Now the Well has run dry and "cuts" have to be made.
You BOUGHT it - you GOT it. AND who are you going to vote for in November?????
RE-elect the same team over and over. Good logic. NOT.
The Vampire Emmanuel strikes again. His victims are those among us, who can't fight back, the sick and elderly, who after a lifetime of service to the city, have their small pensions taken by this evil midget. This is what you have to look forward to, in your old age. On February 24th, vote this Vampire out !
2 1/2 years of health care savings will get you voters a very nice EL station on the red line on the south side. Keep voting DUMMYCRAT fools. Hah.
01:44 - GFY. Don't forget to stop for some hair gel before your latte. Write a couple of contact cards, and consider your job well done.
City dollars for DePaul basketball 50 million
City dollars for first responders retiree health care minus 27 million.
Priorities ? Morality ?
There will be much more.
Let this be a lesson for those of you who have not voted yet. This increase in healthcare would eat your retro pay in a matter of months. Think long term and vote no.
The retiree health care lawsuit, affects every one of us. Please send a contribution to;
Clinton Krislov
Civic Opera Building, suite 1350
20 North Wacker Drive
Chicago, Illinois 60606
It disgusts me every time I go vote and see these coppers and firefighters standing out front endorsing democrats. Clueless imps, oh yeah their gonna take care of me if they win, morons complete morons.
OT: I see Eric Holder stepped down. There will now be an investigation into "Fast and Furious", he will be found guilty of official misconduct, and be pardoned by Obama on his last day in office. This timing isn't an accident.
I am also one of the retirees who does not have this particular attorneys information on hand. I am sorry for not keeping myself more informed, as I have been battling a serious illness w 8 surgeries for 4 years now. I, too, will be more than happy to send money in support of this particular attorney trying to help us.
Thank you to whomever can post the necessary info.
This just made up my mind to vote no on the contract offer. I am 4 years away from retirement and this is bullshit For all you young guys out there, don't be blinded by the offer of retro pay or VRI. Please vote no and also please find some other secondary employment. VRI prevents them from hiring some badly needed officers.
Just wait til they start slashing pension payments.
Democrats talk about Republicans being evil, wanting to hurt people...........This is just unconscionable to fathom.
Obama and congress should test Obama care out then they can report to their constituents how successful it is.
im voting yes then putting the retro money in the bank and when i retire using it to pay my monthly medical.
Save your future. Early voting starts 20 Oct 2014 to 2 Nov 2014. Check on line for locations you can use any location anywhere in cook county.
Don't be a chump.
Vote straight republican and make sure you wife ,kids and friends do also.
Your future benefits depend on it look what the democrates are doing to society and your pension!
Hey Maggie Daley Park $50 million budget might not be enough! There might be some cost overruns.....
Anonymous said...
Could someone please post the contact info for the attorneys? I want to send those guys a check. I'm in the 55 and out group, but I don't trust this administration one iota.
9/26/2014 12:32:00 AM
I second that motion.
What is Angelo's position on this?
i'm better off being an illegal alien!!
I get that the Democrats are jerking us off,but anyone who thinks Rauner is an improvement is a complete fool.
Black people have been voting Democrat for 40 years and they're still poor. -Charles Barkley
The Democrates took our Social Security.
Now they want our pension and health care.
Early voting starts 20 Oct 2014 Monday -Saturday and on two Sundays before 4 Nov 2014
Go while you are working. You can use any location in Chicago any Ward
No excuses
No incumbents or Democrates
Check the web site chicago voting.com
The problem is there's no one ever decent to vote for. And if there was it's one person against all the other crooks in government who would always vote against him and he would never be able to change anything anyway.
Does this effect the 55yo and out group?
But the contract is all legit!
I know cause DEAN said so.
As an eye doctor, let me give you some advice:
As long as somebody else is paying for your health care, too f'n bad.
As long as some government is paying for your health care, too f'n bad.
As long as government is involved in your health care, too f'n bad.
You want affordable, quality health care? Pay for it yourself and pay it directly to your doc since they work and care about MONEY as much as YOU do.
You have the mess you have since you want to take your money for vacations, HD TV, f'n sports, etc. etc. etc and NOT your health first.
Because of all that the people get the garbage they deserve.
Just A Citizen Asks: Why is the government allowed to control anything related to "our" money? Can't it go into an accout off shore where it might be better guarded? Thieves, all of them Outright thieves.
The young officers are only voting yes to get the retro. Nothing else in the contract matters to them.
Those of you who voted for Obama...once or twice, and his 'signature' health care program, how do like him now?
Do you want to give Rahm Emanuel another chance?
Do you want to try your luck with Rahm's pal Bruce Rauner?
So go on an vote Yes for the insulting Contract and see how past performance will prove to be an indication of future costly results.
Preliminary count so far is 70% yes votes on our contract. Retro check should be here before the end of the year.
If you have the opinion and tell other members to vote no on contract at least have a point of the contract that really affects the union as a whole. Just saying people are sell outs without valid points is not enough! Get educated and express yourself intelligently. Outsiders read this blog
suing in federal court asking that the city be held to a state court decision does not seem like the brightest of legal maneuvers. it is generally not up to a federal court to deal with matters that are strictly those of state law.
Lets face it, no matter who is in charge of our governments, the benefits of retirees will come under attack. They want to cut debt and retirees are easy targets. And, since most do not remain in Chicago, they don't vote for city candidates. However, you will also see Illinois attacks and federal attacks on benefits ( with the exception of welfare and Link, that is). The funds are so down that they cannot raise taxes high enough to bring them to the level that they need to be. They made promises that they cannot keep. Nationalized health care is only 10 years away. It is coming.
Is this a class action suit ?
Being retired, do I have to contact anyone to be included ?
Anyone with info ?
Remember that Bruce Rauner is a DEMOCRAT in disguise in addition to being Rahm's sugar daddy.
He will make a deal with Madigan to fuck us. Quinn will be fairer.
Why do you think Rahm is not concerned about the balloon payment in 2016?
Remember that Rauner provided the $$$ to bring Mr. Edelman here to give to Madigan's candidates in 2012 in return for fucking the teachers unions. They thought CTU would never reach the new 75% threshold in a strike vote.
Karen Lewis hung tough.
Vote no , arbitrator will give us the salary increase .
District patrol needs 100% staffing as a number one priority like the firefighters . We also need an end to merit promotions , an increase to 90% bids for watch selection and assignments . 20+ years you should have the fight to bid for an inside assignment . Anyone can work inside make that 90% bid citywide , not per unit .
Vote NO Unless you have a lot of clout .
To the blogger who says that the retirees need to man up and stop crying: well let me tell your young ass something, if it is happening to us now, what makes you so sure it won't happen to you young bucks, do you think every new contract is going to bring nothing but good stuff, remember that when the 55-59 retirement plan was put in to effect, nobody paid for medical coverage, next year it will be 2 per cent, then he can raise it at anytime to what he wants, when we all retire you get a little 3 per cent cost of living every year, they are working hard to take that away too. so don't be so quick to pass judgment. oh, I forgot, you will be living high with the 2 grand retro check you will bew getting. GROW UP!!!!
WTF 30 yrs of dealing with baby momma drama and trying to tame baby daddy and got to go to court to get what was promised.
Obamacare is not about health care.
It is about Gun Control and Illegal Immigration. Here is why:
Most Americans are losers and want somebody else to pay for their health care while they spend their money on junk, vacations, cars, TV's, McDonald's etc. So, the majority of Americans will go for and love Obamacare. Sure, it won't work, nobody will give a damn about you and the costs will be outrageous, but as long as somebody else is paying for your "health care", the Democrats will get the votes.
Second: Hospitals are either broke or going broke with the 40-50 Million illegals who pay nothing. These Hospitals need money bad and Obamacare is a sneaky way to get them lots of cash to pay for the illegal invasion and their multiple births per woman.
Obamacare sends about $11,000 per family to the big 5 Insurance companies. The Insurance companies will pocket some of this and send the rest in "insurance payments" to the Hospital corporations to be used to pay for the illegals. The Hospitals will be able to bill higher costs to the Insurance Companies which will gladly pay these "inflated" bills with the massive Billions through Obamacare.
Now, what "republican" or "independent" is going to go against Obamacare? Not one. People and the Illegals are going to vote in Democrats to such an extent that soon the majority in the 3 branches of the Federal Government will be Democrats.
Now the Democrats will pass all the Anti-guns laws they want, up taxes on the working citizens, and then grant 100% amnesty to 40 million illegals who will vote Democratic forever.
Bye bye America and welcome to the One Party State.
That is the reason for Obamacare, suckers.
Some retirees need to quit whining and whimpering and man up. The days of sweet, for life, deals for union members are gone.
To be put on a fixed income after retirement and having your insurance go up by 40% while cost of living also goes up, tell me, where does the money come from so we can "man up" with?
As a young PO, the word retirement was not even in my vocabulary. When I saw flyers on the wall telling of a retirement party, I thought, good, he should retire, he's old.
Now that I'm retired and on a fixed income, I can't work OT or whatever the young guy's do for extra money, so I do have to watch what I spend because Rahm ain't doing me OR you any favors.
Remember, when the politicians have created laws that they don't have to follow, just you, you are fucked.
You think Obama cares what happens to your family? Do you think he cares how much your insurance goes up? NO, because his shit for him and his family is all taken care of for the rest of his life.
He's moving to California to a 6. something million dollar mansion with a pool plus waterfall into that pool. What are you going to have with your 75% (if you max) of your salary?
Just sayin....
The city either needs to cut benefits or cut heads. Unfortunately we are in this mess after decades of politicians making promises that could never be delivered. I would skip all of this crap and file for Federal Bankruptcy like Detroit. The state constitution means nothing in Federal court.
Wait until you get on Medicare. When they passed Obamacare they took 870 billion out of medicare over 10 years. Go to a specialist now and nothing is paid.
I called the FOP to ask a few questions about the retiree program the woman who answered said what do you want to know I just wanted some clarification she said "I don't know read it " and hung up.Nice huh?
Remember who voted for all this. Especially in the 19th ward.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Some retirees need to quit whining and whimpering and man up. The days of sweet, for life, deals for union members are gone. Obamacare is now and the future. It's for all, including union retirees. BTW, not a single congressional republican, not one, voted for Obamacare. It was invented by and brought to you solely by the democrat party.
9/26/2014 01:44:00 AM
And your point is? Here's my point, blow me.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This just made up my mind to vote no on the contract offer. I am 4 years away from retirement and this is bullshit For all you young guys out there, don't be blinded by the offer of retro pay or VRI. Please vote no and also please find some other secondary employment. VRI prevents them from hiring some badly needed officers.
Same bull shit years ago. The youngsters were bought off by uniform checks, shift differential, or retro that covered a year or two. Forget the raises that increased your pension. What good does that do you for your new toy right now. No foresight.
9/26/2014 07:53:00 AM
Anyone who votes yes for our contract is drinking democratic kool-aid! Vote no on our contract.
Jeez kid. Relax. I know it will suck not being able to get a summer furlough ( probably for the next 10 years) but hey!, get some time on the job and all will be right.
Either way it goes, I will get my summer furlough.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Preliminary count so far is 70% yes votes on our contract. Retro check should be here before the end of the year.
9/26/2014 10:08:00 AM
Nice try, but there's no such thing as a preliminary count. They all get counted at the same time, in front of witnesses.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The retiree health care lawsuit, affects every one of us. Please send a contribution to;
Clinton Krislov
Civic Opera Building, suite 1350
20 North Wacker Drive
Chicago, Illinois 60606
9/26/2014 07:25:00 AM
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Thank you.
The young officers that vote yes are selling themselves out. They will be the ones with no pension or healthcare worth living for.
Your max out of pocket stays the same...LOL what a doublespeak.
Currently, some people don't hit the max out of pocket. They surely will now paying 25% of the bill. So before, you may have paid 2k in out of pocket...now you will hit the 3k mark undoubtedly. Tier 1 hospitals are in 3rd world locations. BEWARE!
So any money you allegedly got in 2012 is spent every year for you. It is like getting a 2% raise but your income tax went up 2%. Yes you got a raise but your net gain was nothing.
The arbitrator gave us 11% last time with no givebacks.
That is better than this crap proposal.
Make the contract contingent on the city making it's pension payment in 2015.
The morons that vote yes are must be cousins of JG Wentorth. Same mentality.
Rahm said this is a fair contract. Im in!
A yes vote means
YES I am willing to be cheated.
YES I am willing to be bullied.
YES I think $900 is more important than my pension and seniority.
YES stealing duty availability from the NEW GUY is how I should get my $900 retro for 2012.
YES I am a dummy.
If the new guys do not need Duty Availability...Then why do we?
That is question number 1 for the Arbitrator in the 2017 Contract.
"You don't"
That is the answer from the Arbitrator.
So why would we open this topic up for conversation.
Vote NO!
There is no healthcare provision for those who max out and are under 55.
Why did we give up previous benefits for 29 and a day if it means nothing to those under 55?
Many officers will have 30 years and not yet be 55.
Vote no!
It is very sad that union would even propose a contract, that any reasonable person would realize, was designed to tear our membership apart.
8 out of 10 people I talk to said they voted NO!
If the voting is tied..can police dogs vote?
stop working, help each other out. the pensions are next, i aint doing shit!!!
Where is the video of the Southside meeting at Guide's?
FOP won't post this...why?
Because they were called on their mistakes and concessions.
The anecdotal answers seem very nice until a follow up question is fired back at them.
9/26/2014 09:34:00 AM
Amen Doc. I'll go to the ER when sick,get diagnosed, have my surgery if necessary, and have one of the wonderful catholic hospitals put me on a payment plan that my heirs will be paying for long after I'm dead.
Fuck Insurance.This asshole wants me to pay an extra $500 p/month?
Young Bucks, don't even start up with how well Retirees have it.
My wife had to find a job, and I had one in the wings before going.
House has already been re-fi'ed and we in no way live beyond our means.
Anonymous said...
I called the FOP to ask a few questions about the retiree program the woman who answered said what do you want to know I just wanted some clarification she said "I don't know read it " and hung up.Nice huh?
9/26/2014 02:41:00 PM
You need to record calls like that and put them up on Youtube or something.
If the person calling Fop was hung up on, that person should be fired. Who the hell does she thinks she works for. You really are paying her salary, she can't treat you like she's some goof working for the city. Maybe the entire cabal of jerks need to know that their salary is paid by the members.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Rahm is saving the taxpayers $108.7 million dollars. Obamacare is a fine healthcare system. Obama and the democrat party have been telling us that for several years now.
9/26/2014 01:53:00 AM
Start saving by stopping the Haggie Daley park, and the catholic university's basketball stadium.
Phone number please of Clinton Krislov on behalf of retirees suing the city for health benefits Thank u
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Some retirees need to quit whining and whimpering and man up. The days of sweet, for life, deals for union members are gone. Obamacare is now and the future. It's for all, including union retirees. BTW, not a single congressional republican, not one, voted for Obamacare. It was invented by and brought to you solely by the democrat party.
9/26/2014 01:44:00 AM
Democrat or Republican, they exempted themselves from the provisions of that act.
Anonymous said...
8 out of 10 people I talk to said they voted NO!
9/26/2014 04:38:00 PM
100% of the people I spoke to said they never talked to you.
Ha ha, I am glad I left CPD to work a bullshit job for the federal gov. Making the same money without residency, 8 to 4. Good riddance chicago
Rahm is out to bend retirees over and hump them dry.
He's a ruthless, slimy bastard who claims he's making the " tough choices".
The young officers are only voting yes to get the retro. Nothing else in the contract matters to them.
9/26/2014 09:56:00 AM
Nothing else matters to them now but this contract really lays the wood to the younger officers.
That's why Rahm was all smiles and patting himself on the back about his "fair and generous offer" to us.
I get that the Democrats are jerking us off,but anyone who thinks Rauner is an improvement is a complete fool.
9/26/2014 09:06:00 AM
So what is your answer? We vote for Governor Potatohead and watch the City and State go belly up?
How about we stay home and don't vote for the other guy which is another way of voting FOR Governor Patatohead?
Me? I'll vote for Rauner and get rid of a guy I KNOW is a problem.
I also called fop and talked to "the only girl who knows about medical", she refused to give her last name, first name started with a "J". I think "Jaz". She have me the attorney info and i was also hung up on!!!
To all of you no voters who keep trying to advocate everyone else to vote no, you're wasting your fucking time. People are going to vote according to the way they feel. The same way they will vote in the next election. You think your VOTE NO post means something? Buddy that don't mean shit. Fact is, we are going to get fucked either way. Vote no and we're fucked. Vote yes and we're fucked. The city comes out on top no matter what. Your benefits were never written in stone genius. It could could change at the discretion of the city. Which it has been over the last 20 years. Within the next 10 years, we will lose the uniform allowance all together. The city will opt for a commissary, and you will vote No as usual. Then it will go to arbitration, and we will still lose it. When people say "Wake up people", they are correct. Wake up and realize that the world is changing, and this shit was never meant to be forever. It's unfortunate that the city decided to fuck the retires, but guess what. They are going to do the same to you one day when ou retire. No guarantees with this city. Please cast your vote. Whatever vote you decide, make sure it's in your best interest, and the best interest of your family. Advocating for someone that's not even hired yet, and that may be years away from being hired is absurd.
Look at what you will be paying for health care.
25.00/35.00 everytime you or a dependent visit a doctor.
150.00 to go to a hospital for treatment if you are not admitted. Where else do you go for an emergency? have the doctor make a house call?
How about the maximum out of pocket?
that retro will be back in there wallet in 1yr. Vote No!
Rumor has it there will be no more health insurance after 2013................remember that one? Just sayin........
Jeez kid. Relax. I know it will suck not being able to get a summer furlough ( probably for the next 10 years) but hey!, get some time on the job and all will be right.
Either way it goes, I will get my summer furlough.
9/26/2014 04:08:00 PM
Lol. Hey maybe we can vacation together kid. Under 50 and almost maxed out was going to retire but will stay another 12 years. So get comfy Dracula cause your gonna be on midnights a l o n g time. BAHHHHH!
01:44am.....quit whining whimpering I worked over 40 yrs. the Politicians promised us these benefits they are the ones who fucked up now they want us to give up what we were working for and promised and you got the balls to tell us that shit another guy who probably doesn't even know what an arrest report looks like whine on this.
Notice that the DEM-o-crats cut benefits from working people who've worked all their lives for what they weee promised, but the DEM-o-crats never attempt to cut a dime of benefits from Welfare, Food Stamp, Unemployment, WIC, etc. Programs for all the freeloaders and deadbeats who contribute nothing ever to Society. These Democrats really ARE the Communists we were warned about, decades ago. Beware these Parasites.
I say since FOP has agreed to video record the meeting then I have a right to record them on my phone as well. From now on I will be recording everything. Thanks Dean you did one good thing.
Brother Zeke sits at the left hand of the dear leader. I had to check, he's 57. Those of you still alive in '31, please check back to see if his view had changed, or there is a special exemption for Party members. A substitute for the award of the Order of Lenin.
"Phone number please of Clinton Krislov on behalf of retirees suing the city for health benefits Thank u" WTF? No phone book? No "411?" I know you have a computer, since you flopped here to ask for express service. Look it up.
It is very sad that union would even propose a contract, that any reasonable person would realize, was designed to tear our membership apart.
If you had any time on this job you would know that we don't need a contract to "tear us apart". We can do that just fine all by ourselves.
I still don't know what all the complaining about this contract is all about. When you get right down to it, it's every man/woman for themselves. They, as will I, will vote yes as long as there is something in this contract that I want.
And all this bullshit about voting no to protect those that have not even been hired is just that, bullshit.
Most of us on this job have no special training or Qualifications that would get us a job paying even half of what we make here in private industry. Believe me I'm not saying just roll over but be honest and take a real look at what workers in the private world are getting and putting up with. If you had to get a new job tomorrow what would you do? Be a security Guard, drive a truck, work in a warehouse? Believe me I've known a lot a coppers that had to leave and thats what they are doing. The pension yes never give up fight for that cause you pay into it and that will be your life income. But all other things use common sense.
Wait... do i get a link card and monthly check to go with that Obama kill i mean care
So what is your answer? We vote for Governor Potatohead and watch the City and State go belly up?
How about we stay home and don't vote for the other guy which is another way of voting FOR Governor Patatohead?
Me? I'll vote for Rauner and get rid of a guy I KNOW is a problem.
9/26/2014 08:34:00 PM
Indiana and Wisconsin are now in the black with Republican Governors.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Preliminary count so far is 70% yes votes on our contract. Retro check should be here before the end of the year.
9/26/2014 10:08:00 AM
There isn't any "Preliminary count".
Asshole.
Democrats cause these budget problems and then a republican takes over and has to be daddy and make some hard choices. Look at Wisconsin, no more budget problems. Yet, the democrats are screaming for the mans head that fixed the problem. Democrats won't say no to anyone except working people, because you won life's lottery.
"Me? I'll vote for Rauner and get rid of a guy I KNOW is a problem.
9/26/2014 08:34:00 PM "
Be careful when you roll the Dice, odds on rolling Snakes Eyes are overwhelming.
Anonymous said...
I also called fop and talked to "the only girl who knows about medical", she refused to give her last name, first name started with a "J". I think "Jaz". She have me the attorney info and i was also hung up on!!!
9/26/2014 09:01:00 PM
Do you miss me yet?
Mike Shields
Anonymous said...
Phone number please of Clinton Krislov on behalf of retirees suing the city for health benefits Thank u
9/26/2014 07:28:00 PM
In less time than it took to type this post and to post it you could have googled the guy's name and had his web site in front of you. It's a computer, on the INTERNET! It has everything! Do you have trouble finding Asian porn?
Anonymous said...
Most of us on this job have no special training or Qualifications that would get us a job paying even half of what we make here in private industry. Believe me I'm not saying just roll over but be honest and take a real look at what workers in the private world are getting and putting up with. If you had to get a new job tomorrow what would you do? Be a security Guard, drive a truck, work in a warehouse? Believe me I've known a lot a coppers that had to leave and thats what they are doing. The pension yes never give up fight for that cause you pay into it and that will be your life income. But all other things use common sense.
9/27/2014 08:30:00 AM
You'd be surprised how much talent there is on the CPD.
Unfortunately, those people rarely get a chance to use it.
Clout and merit picks take precedence every time.
Nothing new, just the way it is.
Anonymous said...
If the new guys do not need Duty Availability...Then why do we?
That is question number 1 for the Arbitrator in the 2017 Contract.
9/26/2014 04:31:00 PM
I miss those checks, duty, uniform, OT, special employment, those were the days. Now I only get one fucking check a month. It is big, bigger than my former take home was. It just was nice to get all those misc. checks. Those were vacation checks and Christmas money.
Stay working people, keep paying in to the fund. Retirement is OK.
You know, it's too bad that all city workers are tied into this. I'm behind the first responders, and thank them for their service. But if this includes the S&S lazy MFs, the McCormick Place so-called carpenters and laborers, the traffic light "electricians", and the rest of the fuck-ups who worked 3-4 hour days for 8 hours of pay for years 30 years, paid for by our tax dollars, they could go fuck themselves.
My insurance will be $15,000 a year , served 31 years , why do officers on duty disability that have bad backs , necks that can function everyday , drive , school ,baby sit the kids , work part time , vacation get free health insurance . Not fair to officers that retired , good guess is that over half of duty disability officers could answer a telephone , type a report , make copies , file reports , drive a car for grease and oil , sit in lobby of headquarters ,Homan square ,crime lab . Let these officers that are able to work come back to work without police powers and free up sworn officers that are full duty doing office work .
Memo to all: I have the city PPO plan and you all who have this plan pay a co pay of 25/35 dollars for every office visit. This is not going away period. Try and go out there and find a plan. I work for a company art time and a family plan PPO cost just about 243.oo per week, plus dental and vision plans. And this won't get better, I'm now retired and pay nothing, but in 1 more year I qualify for medicare, and my wife being 18 months younger, I will have to pay for her thru the city which will be about 650. monthly. Fight for benefits not a few dollars raise for check! Time flys and you will be where a lot of us are at, and heaven forbid if you have to go on non duty related disability.
My insurance will be $15,000 a year , served 31 years...
Retired P/O here-BC/BS coverage for just the two of us (PPO Plan) is $17K a year. Price came down a bit from last year at $20K!!
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