More Camera Questions
Some people in the comment section get it - why not the city?
- My concern is having the audio / sound recording on ALL THE TIME.
Isn't this a violation of Illinois eavesdropping laws? (written by the crooked Illinois lawmaker/politicians)
With the "in-car" camera system we are only allowed to audio record state charge violations.
The audio MUST BE OFF for any municipal violation.
- how about the new gps radios. we were issued them right before Christmas in 024. no training as to what the buttons or features are of the radio, no mention of gps in the radio, the gps parameters, etc. just here's your new radio and go. this place is ass backwards. it doesn't surprise me at all with the body cameras given the history of training in this department.
And this important question:
- I'd like to ask a White Shirt if they are ok approving an arrest report that has body camera footage and not watching it?
This however, bears some scrutiny:
- Bernard Kerik, former NYPD Commish, made $6.2 million by exercising
stock options he received from Taser. Kerik was released from the
Federal Pen in 2013. G-Mac was Deputy Commish under Kerik.
Taser is evidence.com's owner.
See what's going on now?
Interesting.
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:35 AM
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It's the connected vs. serfs. 14 district 3 watch was chosen for a reason. The connected know the reason and the 3rd watch knows the reason.
This sounds a lot like the Obamacare rollout. Rahm's brother Zeke was involved in that debacle.
Let us know when your higly paid and fully clouted management sobers up and provides some answers.
Oh wow! This should be a gem for any investigative reporter to look into. Come on this could be a good one for some news outlet. Let's do some digging.
A state and City of chaos and confustion. Situation normal.
Go into the station and talk to the Capt., Lt., Sgt. and or the D/C will they make you take the camera off?
With the public just tell them "just letting you know everything you are saying is being recorded"! A lot of D.D. the combatants are going to tell you to leave.
The one good thing out of this will be that you get to review the recording BEFORE you have to give a report on and beef. FOP got that. Will cut down on the rule 14 beefs.
Just do police work with the understanding the you are being recorded from the time you leave the house till you get home. If you do that you will not get caught lowering yourself to the same level of the shit we have to deal with.
Kerik was McPoliceGod's political sugar-daddy at NYPD...
Sergeant in four years?
Lieutenant in seven?
Promoting green-as-gooseshit supervisors
is the upward fucking of a Police Department and it breeds bad, politically beholden, tone deaf bosses who haven't had two seconds of hard time on this job.
For example?
Being tag teamed by rotten m/fers like
Bubble-Head and Pineapple-Head for something silly
like not buying a ticket to the company "holiday" party.
Among other things...
...Prosecution rests.
"Bernard Kerik, former NYPD Commish, made $6.2 million by exercising stock options he received from Taser. Kerik was released from the Federal Pen in 2013. G-Mac was Deputy Commish under Kerik.
"Taser is evidence.com's owner.
"See what's going on now?"
I can only hear the federal prosecutors/FBI who just hooked up Sheldon Silver saying, "Stay tuned."
Let's look at how "The New York Connection" plays out:
Bernard Kerik is NYPD Commish, NYPD gives Taser lots of business. When he leaves NYPD, he runs into $6 million by exercising "stock options" with Taser. He later goes off to prison to serve his sentence.
Deputy Commish G-Mac is bringing in evidence.com, Taser owned. I wonder if G-Mac will get over $6 million when he leaves Chicago from a Taser connection?
Another Deputy Commish under Kerik was Frank Straub, now Chief in Spokane. Straub was perhaps a little more obvious: he gave Taser a no-bid contract for body cameras and evidence.com services. Oh, looks like he's having some trouble with state law that requires consent from both parties to record out there, so those little devices aren't being used so much over there, but Taser is accruing fees for the storage space they got. I wonder how many millions of dollars that former Deputy NYPD Commish will make on his options?
Wow! The "connections" one can make serving as a Commish or Deputy Commish with NYPD!
I wish I could make over $6 million when I leave the job.
Aside from the eminently clear malfeasance with Taser being chosen as the vendor, why must we carry yet another device on our bodies? There are manufacturers that have integrated the video camera and audio microphone into the lapel mic for the radio. Oh, but I guess Taser is not one of those manufacturers...
The law enforcement community has some very evil profit-grabbers who care nothing about the rank and file. They only care about lining their own pockets.
OT. Why are desk personel allowed to smoke e cigarettes at the front desk of the 012th district?
I voted NO on this contract. But apparently bright officers wanted that retro so damn bad, so where the F is it? January 19th was the deadline. A week later, still don't have it. Thanks DEAN, THANKS Rahm, for lying thru your teeth, and smiling to us as you have us bent over. Again, the boys in blue, always seem to be the losers in the equation. Contracts, negotiations, and agreements mean nothing in this town, except of course when the City benefits.
MOVE OUT OF THIS DAMN CITY the first minute you can, the corruption will only get worse when this mayor gets re-elected.
FLOp Silent ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!
Ask DeaNO
Our So called Union is not taking a stand Just Taking Our Dues $$$$
but you can't film the police in public in Illinois I thought so if you accidentally film your partner you're breaking the law.
Retro? Retro? Did you say Retro? Forget the soup Nazi, our mayor is the retro Nazi. No retro for you!
"how about the new gps radios. we were issued them right before Christmas in 024. no training as to what the buttons or features are of the radio, no mention of gps in the radio, the gps parameters, etc. just here's your new radio and go. this place is ass backwards. it doesn't surprise me at all with the body cameras given the history of training in this department."
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When I came on I went to 024. I asked to see the manual for the computer un the room off the front desk, I wanted to familiarize myself with it's operation. The desk crew looked at me as if I had three heads. Manual? User Guide?
An old guy led me to a wall in the room with the computer and showed me where a few commands were written on the wall in pencil. "There's your manual" I was told. Scribbled on the wall. Different people had written down several of the most used commands. It was all command line driven then. No manual. No training, no nothing. I couldn't believe it. Big city police department and the instructions for the computer were scribbled in pencil on the wall.
In the springtime city workers came in and painted the room. Then there were no instructions whatsoever. That is what it was like in 1986 for everything.
Run a name on the radio and it frequently took 15 or 20 minutes for results, if any.
An Evanston cop showed me their computer. It looked like the difference between WWII era crap and modern day NASA. The Evanston cop ran a plate on his car computer (they all had computers, few in Chicago did) and got the results in less than 5 seconds.
If anyone talks about the good old days, that is the good old days. Most didn't bother with the computer. It was fucked up then, it is fucked up now.
OT:
Obama can't be bothered to join world leaders in marching for freedom with the masses in France but he alters his entire schedule to go to the muslim leader of Saudi Arabia's funeral. Oh, I forgot, muslim leader, that explains it.
Is there a deadline for our retro pay?
What's going on is big government at play. Socialists are all about big government. Everyone is getting a cut of something. You sell something that watches the cops, cops that everyone hates after being riled up by socialists, and socialist friends make money selling it to taxpayers who have to foot the bill.
Great system, right? Keep voting for democrats. Why don't they just change their name to socialist and get it over with already?
Follow the money, same old story
Here's a link to show you about how to properly use the cameras. The department will post this for roll call training soon, but you saw it here first on the blog. You can thank me later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WajRffn0PM
Camera or no camera, I plan on still being the working police. My partner and I work our tails off. This issue of cameras will be just another excuse for dogs to remain dogs. Cameras and other big brother related technologies are here and everywhere and they will only proliferate.
OT - My dad retired in July, 2011 after 37 years as a P.O. He got his January, 2015 pension check and didn't seem to notice a COLA on it. Were they freezing COLA's for retired members? My dad just turned 66. Thanks for any help.
Guess who got fired from the Secretary of State Office yesterday?............ Tracey Ladner. HAH!
there is no functioning GPS happening in your new APX radios.
its just a feature that is capable but not implemented.
OEMC
The red light camera business is an honest civic effort to to save the children. Body cameras are necessary and in response to grandstanding loudmouths to save certain lives. And children.
Another Daley Inc. LLC entrepreneurship blossoms and Rahm Inc. utilizing Gmac's expertise in the industry a fortuitous endeavor.
It's ok, they learned from Kerik's mistakes.
You say their ass backwards but are they obligated to tell you they know where you are at all times during your shift!I guess you could say they are sneaky or slick but not ass backwards!
GPS in the radios is just a feature the radio has. The radios are being handed out for other reasons. Statewide interoperability is one of them. The radios are dual band meaning that in the future you may be able to communicate with a plethora of first response agencies throughout the state (both police and fire bands). GPS is probably not enabled on them just yet. All it really is right now is a radio with more channels and connections to statewide systems which are still being built. For now just enjoy it as a fancy looking zone radio because thats all Chicago can really use them for. The radio systems being used in Chicago are still far behind the technology those radios are equipped to handle.
There's no gps in the new radios. We've had the new ones in 007 for a while now and my buddy lost his on the street somewhere and it was never found Id think a radio with gps would be recovered pretty quick if it were true
Was the retro checks due this Christmas or next?
I went to the FOP offices yesterday. They were closed with a sign reading "Gone to Pro Bowl" back Tuesday. If you need to reach us please call 588-2300. That number rings a bell.
Knock knock? Who's there? Silence. Exactly. We are doomed.
I can't wait till someone views my recordings. I had a chili dog with cheese and took one loud dookie. Looked like a Manson family party in my bowl.
The glitch in the system issuing our retro checks is none other than the mayor and cooperative FOP. They ARE the Virus. Signed Mr. Kaspersky and Mr. Norton.
I laugh at this... Supervisors try selling it, saying its the way of the future. But I bet the day I clear my Sergeant or Lt to a scene, to cover my ax# and I stand in front of them explaining what I got, they will tell me to step aside. Because they won't have their pow wow or decision made on camera. Good for us to be on camera, but not for them.....watch for it. You will see on scene supervisors miles away from any grunt officer with a camera.
The city is calling retirees and informing them to provide a beneficiary for their retro checks....what does that mean?
I just strapped myself 20 times with a wet belt to serve me punishment. I voted for these clowns in FOP.
Watch some copper get jammed for not turning the camera off going into an ER and inadvertently doing a HIPPA violation.
THERE HAS TO BE TRAINING!!! Not just an elearning module or a video.
What the fuck is going on? i had a block of instruction at the academy just to learn about and how to run the plate reader--nothing for something really important like a body cam.
hi, this comment is unrelated to this post buy it's the only way i see how to bring it to light here.
http://www.allnewspipeline.com/When_Will_The_Round_Up_Begin.php
it's inspiration for the good LEO
to help with ridding our city/state/nation of corruption.
How long before the HIPPA (Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996) privacy lawsuits start? "The officer recorded my seizure on video! OMG! OMG! OMG!"
Audio isn't always on. Turns on when you activate it, video is always recording.
"With the "in-car" camera system we are only allowed to audio record state charge violations.
The audio MUST BE OFF for any municipal violation."
Where does it state this?
Can somebody please tell my wife that we have yet to receive the retro pay. She won't leave me alone!
I heard retro checks coming Feb 30th now!
OT - My dad retired in July, 2011 after 37 years as a P.O. He got his January, 2015 pension check and didn't seem to notice a COLA on it. Were they freezing COLA's for retired members? My dad just turned 66. Thanks for any help.
February 1st every year....
if youre wearing recording equipment, and your conversation is recorded, its not an invasion of privacy.
Anonymous said...
OT - My dad retired in July, 2011 after 37 years as a P.O. He got his January, 2015 pension check and didn't seem to notice a COLA on it. Were they freezing COLA's for retired members? My dad just turned 66. Thanks for any help.
1/24/2015 08:53:00 AM
COLA appears on the Jan31/Feb 01 check.
Simple brain fart. You'll see it on a check in six days.
Never let a crisis go to waste.
Ferguson presented the crisis that allowed Rahm Emmanuel and Superintendent McCarthy to line somebody with the taxpayers money.
Get your friends and family out to vote.
ANYBODY BUT RAHM.
I voted NO on this contract. But apparently bright officers wanted that retro so damn bad, so where the F is it? January 19th was the deadline. A week later, still don't have it. Thanks DEAN, THANKS Rahm, for lying thru your teeth, and smiling to us as you have us bent over. Again, the boys in blue, always seem to be the losers in the equation. Contracts, negotiations, and agreements mean nothing in this town, except of course when the City benefits.
MOVE OUT OF THIS DAMN CITY the first minute you can, the corruption will only get worse when this mayor gets re-elected.
Rahm paid CFD, the heroes, their retro early.
I guess he's still sticking it in CPD's ear!
From what some supervisors were told, the GPS on the radios can only be accessed by the Radio Room at 51st St. and IAD. Taking the antennae off won't defeat the GPS either.
Anonymous said...
"how about the new gps radios. we were issued them right before Christmas in 024. no training as to what the buttons or features are of the radio, no mention of gps in the radio, the gps parameters, etc. just here's your new radio and go. this place is ass backwards. it doesn't surprise me at all with the body cameras given the history of training in this department."
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When I came on I went to 024. I asked to see the manual for the computer un the room off the front desk, I wanted to familiarize myself with it's operation. The desk crew looked at me as if I had three heads. Manual? User Guide?
An old guy led me to a wall in the room with the computer and showed me where a few commands were written on the wall in pencil. "There's your manual" I was told. Scribbled on the wall. Different people had written down several of the most used commands. It was all command line driven then. No manual. No training, no nothing. I couldn't believe it. Big city police department and the instructions for the computer were scribbled in pencil on the wall.
In the springtime city workers came in and painted the room. Then there were no instructions whatsoever. That is what it was like in 1986 for everything.
Run a name on the radio and it frequently took 15 or 20 minutes for results, if any.
An Evanston cop showed me their computer. It looked like the difference between WWII era crap and modern day NASA. The Evanston cop ran a plate on his car computer (they all had computers, few in Chicago did) and got the results in less than 5 seconds.
If anyone talks about the good old days, that is the good old days. Most didn't bother with the computer. It was fucked up then, it is fucked up now.
1/24/2015 07:39:00 AM
Training has a low priority with CPD. McCarthy has no interest in the daily management of [patrol and the current exempt have problems making decisions that might disagree with the supt. Google and Youtube are your friends when working with new equipment. Google it. BTW comparing CPD equipment with other agencies will cause you depression. Just like my boss says; "make it work"
Ok here is a good use of the camera. LOL
https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/cop-lip-syncs-shake-off-215500282.html;_ylt=AwrBT.OX2MNU3hsArNRXNyoA
Cop sings shake it off. Copy and paste really funny shit.
Kerik's issues were his own. Not propping up McCarthy on a pedestal, but you shouldn't sling Kerik's mud on anyone else, SCC. you paint journalists in a corner when they do this to us,
whenever a 'former' copper is either charged or
convicted of a crime. Do the right thing.
GPS in the radios is just a feature the radio has. The radios are being handed out for other reasons. Statewide interoperability is one of them. The radios are dual band meaning that in the future you may be able to communicate with a plethora of first response agencies throughout the state (both police and fire bands). GPS is probably not enabled on them just yet. All it really is right now is a radio with more channels and connections to statewide systems which are still being built. For now just enjoy it as a fancy looking zone radio because thats all Chicago can really use them for. The radio systems being used in Chicago are still far behind the technology those radios are equipped to handle.
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Motorola website shots the specs for the radio. It say GPS.
You can argue that its turned off but the specs say GPS.
An Evanston cop showed me their computer. It looked like the difference between WWII era crap and modern day NASA. The Evanston cop ran a plate on his car computer (they all had computers, few in Chicago did) and got the results in less than 5 seconds.
Evanston PD has exactly how many members? How many squads? I'm sure that they run a much tighter ship discipline wise that we ever have.
How many times have you ridden in a car with a partner who you've seen purpose wreck some of the equipment, or turn it off?
Smaller dept. +tighter supervision=longer shelf life for the equipment.
Larger dept. +low to non-existent supervision=CPD.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Guess who got fired from the Secretary of State Office yesterday?............ Tracey Ladner. HAH!
1/24/2015 09:07:00 AM
Any chance she was responsible for that election mailer that went out under Jesse White's name?
Or was she just generally incompetent?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT - My dad retired in July, 2011 after 37 years as a P.O. He got his January, 2015 pension check and didn't seem to notice a COLA on it. Were they freezing COLA's for retired members? My dad just turned 66. Thanks for any help.
1/24/2015 08:53:00 AM
Your dad did NOT receive his January 2015 pension check yet. He will receive it in another week. The adjustment will be on it then.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT:
Obama can't be bothered to join world leaders in marching for freedom with the masses in France but he alters his entire schedule to go to the muslim leader of Saudi Arabia's funeral. Oh, I forgot, muslim leader, that explains it.
1/24/2015 07:53:00 AM
Or maybe it's SAUDI ARABIA that's the issue here. I won't try to educate you on economics or oil markets, but you need to get over your knee-jerk reactions.
Anonymous said...
GPS in the radios is just a feature the radio has. The radios are being handed out for other reasons. Statewide interoperability is one of them. The radios are dual band meaning that in the future you may be able to communicate with a plethora of first response agencies throughout the state (both police and fire bands). GPS is probably not enabled on them just yet. All it really is right now is a radio with more channels and connections to statewide systems which are still being built. For now just enjoy it as a fancy looking zone radio because thats all Chicago can really use them for. The radio systems being used in Chicago are still far behind the technology those radios are equipped to handle.
1/24/2015 09:52:00 AM
Let's see, features not enabled, enjoy it for now, far behind the technology.
9/11 was almost 14 years ago. The Emergency Comm system was fucked up then, it is still fucked up. The Feds threw around billions to come up with new systems so we can hear and talk in subways, fire can talk to police, everyone can talk to everyone else when needed.
So what happened? Commercial interests have bribed our congressmen and senators through campaign contributions because THEY want the bandwidth made available by changes in radio and TV. So they can sell more WiFi and Bluetooth devices and home remote controls and other such nonsense.
Once again, Emergency services takes a back seat. And mostly those who were there on 9/11 have lost the fight to obtain bandwidth for police and fire. Those who were fighting for us have given up, lost or just retired.
And still we can't call for help in high rises or subways and it is still all fucked up. But Verizon, AT&T and others are making lots of $$$$$.
Typical. This is freedom. Freedom to fleece the public at every turn.
Anonymous said...
there is no functioning GPS happening in your new APX radios.
its just a feature that is capable but not implemented.
OEMC
1/24/2015 09:10:00 AM
We need to take the radios to the Daley & Vanecko Radio Feature Implementation Company, obviously!
Anonymous said...
OT - My dad retired in July, 2011 after 37 years as a P.O. He got his January, 2015 pension check and didn't seem to notice a COLA on it. Were they freezing COLA's for retired members? My dad just turned 66. Thanks for any help.
1/24/2015 08:53:00 AM
The COLA is effective on Jan 1 but the January pension check is not paid until the LAST day of the month. It will be on the check paid on Jan 31.
All pension checks are paid on the last day of the month for that month. May's check is paid on May 30 etc.
Anonymous said...
OT. Why are desk personel allowed to smoke e cigarettes at the front desk of the 012th district?
1/24/2015 06:52:00 AM
Are you the police? Do you have a pair of balls dangling between your legs? Go up to the person smoking and slap the fucking cigarette out of his or her mouth you fucking whining pussy.
Are you a citizen? Walk in that station, take a cell phone video of the jagoff smoking and tell the prick to put out the smokes or he will see himself on YouTube.
If I see this posted again here I will know you are a spineless coward.
What are you all going to do when when the race riots begin?
Anonymous said...
OT - My dad retired in July, 2011 after 37 years as a P.O. He got his January, 2015 pension check and didn't seem to notice a COLA on it. Were they freezing COLA's for retired members? My dad just turned 66. Thanks for any help.
1/24/2015 08:53:00 AM
Tell dad to relax,my guess is that the COLA will be on the Feb check. I believe he has to be retired for the month of Jan before he gets the pay and increased COLA for it. Like if you get hired Jan 1 your dont get paid until you worked the first 15 days. Make sense. or if you get a pay raise on Jan 1 you dont get it until the Jan 16 paycheck
Is there a deadline for our retro pay
According to the Union hard checks will be available 26 Jan, but City technically has till 02 Feb before interest starts adding into our final payout.
Anonymous said...
Is there a deadline for our retro pay?
1/24/2015 08:02:00 AM
Yes. When Rahm goddamn well feels like it. Plus when the City borrows enough money to pay it. See, we didn't endorse Rahm like Local 2.
Have no fear. The illinois law is about to be amended. City is jumping the gun on the body cameras. Gotta do what the black caucus wants or else!!!
No retro, like a Gus Grisson Glitch: "I did NOT do anything wrong. The hatch just BLEW. It was a GLITCH. It was a- a TECHNICAL MALFUNCTION. Why in hell won't anyone believe me?"
1/24/2015 07:44:00 AM
Great movie.
The nexus between the supplier and a high ranking decision maker in the department? Looks like the lobbyists greased the skids making good in Chicago and the nation through a justice dept/white house push for police cameras. Follow the money behind the agenda. The left’s agenda always seems to have money making opportunities for the chosen few who have the most influence in this best money can buy government.
Cameras are not the solution to the out of control crime. The sad part is the real problem especially the murders and shootings will continue unabated. Police and the military are greater problems in the left’s eyes than the out of control violent crimes such as robberies, murders and aggravated batteries with weapons The problem in their eyes are the police, not the criminals. The whole progressive driven agenda places emphasis on police behavior. In the meantime, the bodies stack up in the democrat run Crook County big as a warehouse morgue as the excuses for criminal behavior rationalizations are advanced.
The left has an agenda to condition the skulls of mush to be critical of the police and military while softening the image of hard core criminals through re-education efforts by the media, academia, high ranking Washington D.C. bureaucrats and elected officials.
Bring on the cameras. Pictures of filthy apartment complete with rodent and bug infestations would require the intervention on of D.C.F.S and the health dept. Lots of building code violations including not up to code wiring, dilapidated porches, broken doors & windows, rodent droppings, lack of smoke detectors etc. need to be documented and reported directly to the building inspection department. If this is a section 8 apartment notify H.U.D. and request an safety/cleanliness/building code compliance inspection. If an elderly person is involved, contact the elderly abuse hotline.
Use the video and accompanying audio with for 100% compliance for traffic including for non functioning auto lights, the “Its okay Mister. I’m going to work” no license types and the I left my drivers license at home types.
Remind those affected that if they don’t like the camera enforcement they should contact their aldercreature, the mayor, Operation PUSH, sate reps & senators, the governor, the U.S. representatives & senators and most importantly, the white house and light up their switchboards.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT. Why are desk personel allowed to smoke e cigarettes at the front desk of the 012th district?
1/24/2015 06:52:00 AM
Crybaby
COLA shows up on February check
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT - My dad retired in July, 2011 after 37 years as a P.O. He got his January, 2015 pension check and didn't seem to notice a COLA on it. Were they freezing COLA's for retired members? My dad just turned 66. Thanks for any help.
1/24/2015 08:53:00 AM
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The January check is for December. The check he gets in one week will be the first one for 2015. It should show the COLA on it.
The new radios we have are GPS capable, however, the City has not paid to have that function activated yet. The cars have GPS, the PDTs have GPS, and in time the radios will too. Once the radio GPS is activated they will surely deactivate the vehicle systems and the radio system will prevail. They're more interested in where you are than where your car is, and unless you take the radio apart every day you won't be able to attempt to manipulate the GPS function. The internal battery backup with ensure that turning the radio off will not inhibit the GPS from reporting
For the person who stated retro checks were to be the 19th your wrong always was the 26th. But wait it's now been moved to the 30th. So hold your breathe for the few bucks
The question of "camera equipped A/O" should be made part of at least the arrest report via check ed box.
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
I voted NO on this contract. But apparently bright officers wanted that retro so damn bad, so where the F is it? January 19th was the deadline. A week later, still don't have it. Thanks DEAN, THANKS Rahm, for lying thru your teeth, and smiling to us as you have us bent over. Again, the boys in blue, always seem to be the losers in the equation. Contracts, negotiations, and agreements mean nothing in this town, except of course when the City benefits.
MOVE OUT OF THIS DAMN CITY the first minute you can, the corruption will only get worse when this mayor gets re-elected.
1/24/2015 06:56:00 AM"
Retro is money OWED to you, moron. If you didn't give a fuck about the city paying you what your were OWED, then why cry like a bitch about how long it's taking to get it?
14 has been a pilot district for years.
O/T...are there Capt.s in Detective Division? And who are they? What do they do? I thought that DW was fired for the Michigan thing but there are two on the querry. Which one is the groping king. Can you be a Capt or XO after such an incident. Wow is that the construction company too? Which one lost and found the missing files? A lot to take in huh. Clouted ....just plain clouted.
with these camera recordings... what about victims rights??? gonna have a rape victims story recorded? a murder witness recorded, etc?? how long until the system gets hacked and videos released online? The apple icloud was hacked and celeberty photos relesed... and that was apple, you know that our shit, stored by the lowest bidder or minority contractor is not gonna be nearly a secure... Also what about our privacy? gonna film me taking a shit calling home? And if it really does not record all the time, isn't that just gonna add mor fuel to the liberal conspiracey fire, if you do not see an attack comming, or do not have time to turn a camera on when you have to use force???
Rahm is holding the retro!
Some of you might not know an election is happening in this fair city.
Rahm will release the funds shortly before early voting.
Every district will have place you can early vote regardless of where you live.
You can do it on City time.
So vote against the prick who is holding your families money hostage with no INTEREST.
OT - My dad retired in July, 2011 after 37 years as a P.O. He got his January, 2015 pension check and didn't seem to notice a COLA on it. Were they freezing COLA's for retired members? My dad just turned 66. Thanks for any help.
1/24/2015 08:53:00 AM
He should know the COLA will be on the check at the end of January.
Why can't the PDT mounts swivel like ISP? It would seem logical for 99 units. I hope they can get some of these mounts for the squads. It will be so much easier to view and enter info on the PDT.
Don't forget our own Little Tom Byrne, Dep Sup of the Central District, who recommended Taser when he had stock in the company. His motto was "Do as I say, not as I do!!"
I know Luberman and Fatty were (and maybe still are) both involved with the company that makes the red light cameras. This occurred when they were both still with cpd and goofy Luberman talked about it freely.
Any vote for Di Blasio lover emanuel or cop hater garcia will continue the clout that hurts and disrespect for the beat cop. More promotions will come from their campaign staffers. Criminals will rule and the mayor will blame the cops. Anyone who votes for these clowns is nuts. Fioretti is the sane choice.
Anonymous said...
FLOp Silent ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!
Ask DeaNO
Our So called Union is not taking a stand Just Taking Our Dues $$$$
1/24/2015 07:10:00 AM
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Why don't you become a fair share member and stop whining?
Anonymous said...
Camera or no camera, I plan on still being the working police. My partner and I work our tails off. This issue of cameras will be just another excuse for dogs to remain dogs. Cameras and other big brother related technologies are here and everywhere and they will only proliferate.
1/24/2015 08:41:00 AM
Junior, people like you crack me up. Guys like you bring in dopw, an occasional warrant and some dope arrests and then you think you and your partner are superstars while the rest of us who engage in smart policing are dumb or stupid. Also you get "taken care of" right? As in you get to take time off. Big fucking deal. The boss "gave" you time off. Time that you earned in the first place and belongs to you. How stupid can people like you be? Do you really think the bosses who love you now will stand by you when you get fucked over? When some dude on the street wants to generate a cr number on you? If multiple cr numbers or ipra goes against you? Junior, you have a lot to learn. Trust me, getting sued, getting stripped and worrying day and night what will happen is not a picnic. But for now go live out your fantasy junior. Don't listen to us old timers who "don't know shit and are too afraid to do our jobs". Go do as you please. I am sure one day I will have to, begrudgingly buy a ticket for your fundraiser. Now go make the boss happy by fetching him a contact card and a bullshit arrest to boot.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You say their ass backwards but are they obligated to tell you they know where you are at all times during your shift!I guess you could say they are sneaky or slick but not ass backwards!
1/24/2015 09:34:00 AM
Like those swipe readers that didn't connect to any high tech timekeeping system. I recall when they said we all had to swipe in every day and people started swiping daily at A3 and 019. I never did, not even once, until the day I retired. No one came after me, I never missed a check. I wanted to see if it was bullshit and it was.
FOP, How can you not know when we are getting retro?
If they eliminate the red lights then I can guarantee those mayoral candidates that want them gone will introduce a city income tax to pay for the budget gap.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Is there a deadline for our retro pay?
1/24/2015 08:02:00 AM
003 Feb 15 they have to start paying interest. Finance Division says the checks will be out starting the 26th. Check them for accuracy. Remember the civilians down their are all political hacks and the sworn are all future meritorious selections too.
Anonymous said...
Camera or no camera, I plan on still being the working police. My partner and I work our tails off. This issue of cameras will be just another excuse for dogs to remain dogs. Cameras and other big brother related technologies are here and everywhere and they will only proliferate.
AMEN BROTHER! Lets do the effing job! As Commodore Perry said in 1812, Damn the torpedoes.... full speed ahead!
Communist takeover of CPD...
Any copper worth his salt, knows the GRAY area.
Put a camera on me.
Good citizens of Chicago, its over.
I know, you know, We know , the man fleeing the house with your TV is a burglar ,but my shoulder camera didn't record it.
Who wins?
The racist Police?
It's your neighborhood not mine
Fools...Fools
OT - My dad retired in July, 2011 after 37 years as a P.O. He got his January, 2015 pension check and didn't seem to notice a COLA on it. Were they freezing COLA's for retired members? My dad just turned 66. Thanks for any help.
1/24/2015 08:53:00 AM
That was the last check for 2014 tell him to look in Feb.if it's not there then there is a problem.
I was at home off duty and my neighbor called because someone was breaking into her house. Long story short, I would not have wanted the responding officers to have video of me running after the burglar down the middle of the street barefoot and shirtless wearing pajama pants and holding a .45 like a meth head hillbilly
Anonymous said...
Camera or no camera, I plan on still being the working police. My partner and I work our tails off. This issue of cameras will be just another excuse for dogs to remain dogs. Cameras and other big brother related technologies are here and everywhere and they will only proliferate.
1/24/2015 08:41:00 AM
True.
Anonymous said...
OT:
Obama can't be bothered to join world leaders in marching for freedom with the masses in France but he alters his entire schedule to go to the muslim leader of Saudi Arabia's funeral. Oh, I forgot, muslim leader, that explains it.
1/24/2015 07:53:00 AM
The president was in Kansas during the funeral.
Too many whiners on the job. When you accepted the offer to join CPD,what did you think the job would entail? What type of people did you think you would be dealing with? If you hate the department;the city;the bosses;and the citizens so much...leave!!! Otherwise do your job.
Anonymous said...
but you can't film the police in public in Illinois I thought so if you accidentally film your partner you're breaking the law.
1/24/2015 07:13:00 AM
Nope. Case law says you can.
What's going on in 25? Already heard they are having problems with the commander.
Cant FOP stop this action? Or can the City and Rham just do anything it wants?
Remember To Vote For Rham
he is the Cops Friend
I never took this job too seriously except where safety was concerned.
I wish I had a camera for some of the funnier moments I have had on this job. A few were politically incorrect but some were fall on the floor funny.
Now that I am retired I am trying to write some of those moments down. It was 36 years of vaudeville and a pension.
Buy the book, see the movie.
I never see anyone quit this department, so just laugh at it and collect your check. Remember, it's all just a game.
where is our retro checks
Anonymous said...
OT - My dad retired in July, 2011 after 37 years as a P.O. He got his January, 2015 pension check and didn't seem to notice a COLA on it. Were they freezing COLA's for retired members? My dad just turned 66. Thanks for any help.
1/24/2015 08:53:00 AM
Tell dad to relax,my guess is that the COLA will be on the Feb check. I believe he has to be retired for the month of Jan before he gets the pay and increased COLA for it. Like if you get hired Jan 1 your dont get paid until you worked the first 15 days. Make sense. or if you get a pay raise on Jan 1 you dont get it until the Jan 16 paycheck
1/24/2015 12:54:00 PM
The January retirement check is paid at the END of the month. February is paid at the end of February.
The 2015 COLA is on the January check paid on January 31.
Anonymous said...
OT - My dad retired in July, 2011 after 37 years as a P.O. He got his January, 2015 pension check and didn't seem to notice a COLA on it. Were they freezing COLA's for retired members? My dad just turned 66. Thanks for any help.
1/24/2015 08:53:00 AM
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The January check is for December. The check he gets in one week will be the first one for 2015. It should show the COLA on it.
1/24/2015 02:12:00 PM
Wrong. The January retirement check is paid on January 31, the end of the month. You have to live those days to draw a pension for them. COLA is effective Jan 1 but paid on Jan 31. That Jan 31 check is the first check of 2015. The last is paid Dec 31. If you die during the month your pension check is only for the days you were alive.
Cant FOP stop this action? Or can the City and Rham just do anything it wants?
Remember To Vote For Rham
he is the Cops Friend
1/24/2015 11:26:00 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
No, it was ordered by federal court. I don't like rahm but this has nothing to do with rahm. This case about releasing the cr numbers has been bouncing around the court system since about 2005 or earlier. It's all based off a lawsuit from the old 2nd district gang teams in the projects. Google "kick the pigeon" and u will know what I'm talking about.
Anonymous said...
An Evanston cop showed me their computer. It looked like the difference between WWII era crap and modern day NASA. The Evanston cop ran a plate on his car computer (they all had computers, few in Chicago did) and got the results in less than 5 seconds.
Evanston PD has exactly how many members? How many squads? I'm sure that they run a much tighter ship discipline wise that we ever have.
How many times have you ridden in a car with a partner who you've seen purpose wreck some of the equipment, or turn it off?
Smaller dept. +tighter supervision=longer shelf life for the equipment.
Larger dept. +low to non-existent supervision=CPD.
1/24/2015 11:46:00 AM
The US Marines has a larger organization than the CPD. They seem to run a tight ship with good discipline and all. The CPD is just all FUBAR.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
FOP, How can you not know when we are getting retro?
1/24/2015 07:07:00 PM
How long have you worked for the city? This may not be the dumbest question I've seen here but it rates pretty high on the list?
When I got hired here, quite a few years ago, we got a new piece of equipment. I had a real job before that involved industrial psychology. You know, training people. I asked the guy teaching me my new job when they were going to formally train us how to use and maintain this new, kind of dangerous equipment. He said we wouldn't. I told him I had experience with this type of machinery and that a training session should be provided by the city because of the potential for personal injury to employees and the public. He just laughed and said it wouldn't happen.
I'm glad to see that nothing ever changes. If this were private industry, the lousy personal injury lawyers would drive a company out of business for this blatant disregard of any rules.
With the "in-car" camera system we are only allowed to audio record state charge violations.
The audio MUST BE OFF for any municipal violation."
Where does it state this?
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I'm not sure if it's in the department directive but thats what they said in the academy when we had the training for them.
Anonymous said...
Cameras are not the solution to the out of control crime. The sad part is the real problem especially the murders and shootings will continue unabated. Police and the military are greater problems in the left’s eyes than the out of control violent crimes such as robberies, murders and aggravated batteries with weapons The problem in their eyes are the police, not the criminals. The whole progressive driven agenda places emphasis on police behavior. In the meantime, the bodies stack up in the democrat run Crook County big as a warehouse morgue as the excuses for criminal behavior rationalizations are advanced.
The left has an agenda to condition the skulls of mush to be critical of the police and military while softening the image of hard core criminals through re-education efforts by the media, academia, high ranking Washington D.C. bureaucrats and elected officials.
1/24/2015 01:42:00 PM
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Hey buddy... This crime rate is an illusion. asshole have been doing business since god knows when. The crime rate is a political position to run on. when you retire or get shot off the job, assholes will still be doing their thing
>>>Anonymous said...
I never see anyone quit this department, so just laugh at it and collect your check. Remember, it's all just a game.
1/24/2015 11:59:00 PM<<<
I have, a few became Chicago Fire Fighters, some to other police departments, one I remember went back to being a pipe fitter and a couple became lawyers. Some women get their MRS and for them it was their escape. A few just were gone and no one was sure why.
Anonymous said...
What's going on in 25? Already heard they are having problems with the commander.
1/24/2015 11:25:00 PM
I am not in 025 now but Pena was the Tact Lieutenant there and made a lot of enemies there. She got another meritorious promotion to Commander and went to 010 and brought in the notorious Captain Cynthia White as her XO. 010 was a great place to work with good watches and old school bosses. Pena and White micromanaged everything good out of that district under McCarthy and many good cops and bosses left or retired.
She has to be doing the same thing in 025 with the added venom of having old scores to settle.
Anonymous said...
OT:
Obama can't be bothered to join world leaders in marching for freedom with the masses in France but he alters his entire schedule to go to the muslim leader of Saudi Arabia's funeral. Oh, I forgot, muslim leader, that explains it.
1/24/2015 07:53:00 AM
The president was in Kansas during the funeral.
1/24/2015 10:46:00 PM
I am sure he did not want the American people to be reminded of the bow he did to the King.
But here is....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY
AMEN BROTHER! Lets do the effing job! As Commodore Perry said in 1812, Damn the torpedoes.... full speed ahead!
Admiral Farragut said that in the Civil War during the Battle of Mobile Bay. Perry's battle flag read "Don't give up the ship" in the Battle of Lake Erie in the War of 1812.
all this talk about retro, body cameras, who gives a f&&%k !!! why is there no mention of the huge payment to our pension fund and what is being done about getting it deposited to our fund? The mayor who is held responsible has made no mention or the FLOP has made no mention it it either. I was out sick on the day of the meeting , but seems like the Union rep in my dist. ( who ran her mouth about how great Dean was going to be, only to get snubbed and not get the votes even though she was on his ticket to get in to the offices on Wahington) hasn't informed us about anything. and she's a house mouse- hiding somewhere in the tact office???
Thanks to all of you who answered my COLA question. Much appreciated!
Regarding the Gus Grissom comments. When they were finally able to recover his Mercury capsule about 10 years ago, investigators found the bolts did just blow like Gus said they did.
O/T...are there Capt.s in Detective Division? And who are they? What do they do? I thought that DW was fired for the Michigan thing but there are two on the querry. Which one is the groping king. Can you be a Capt or XO after such an incident. Wow is that the construction company too? Which one lost and found the missing files? A lot to take in huh. Clouted ....just plain clouted.
1/24/2015 03:43:00 PM
Idiot.....you are just a clueless plain idiot.
Body-Cam Footage Shows Moment Police Officer Fired Gun Killing Armed Man During Foot Chase
Jan. 24, 2015 3:54am Oliver Darcy
Shock footage released by Oklahoma authorities Friday shows the moment a Muskogee police officer made a split-second decision to shoot an armed man last week during a foot chase.
Body-cam video shows officer Chansey McMillin confront a man identified as Terence Walker, 21, on the afternoon of Jan. 17. According to police, the man had sent death threats to his girlfriend, who was inside a nearby church attending a wedding, Tulsa World reported.
— Scroll to bottom for video —
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/01/24/shock-footage-shows-moment-police-officer-fired-gun-killing-armed-man-during-foot-chase/
I've been issued three speeding tickets in the past forty years so it doesn't happen often, but, say I do get pulled over----every fucking thing I say now is going to be recorded? No more can I ask for some discretion Officer? The typical old school banter will all be caught on tape? And I have to worry now that the entire thing could end up on YOUTUBE?
This is truly fucked up.
This has the potential to take the "arrest report of the month" to a whole nuther level.
Remember To Vote For Rham
he is the Cops Friend
1/24/2015 11:26:00 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
No, it was ordered by federal court. I don't like rahm but this has nothing to do with rahm. This case about releasing the cr numbers has been bouncing around the court system since about 2005 or earlier. It's all based off a lawsuit from the old 2nd district gang teams in the projects. Google "kick the pigeon" and u will know what I'm talking about
Hey Dean then why are you so silent besides wheres the order??? Ba ba bullshit
"Put me down"
Your SGT wasn't really at the scene Video will prove it Big Problems for the SGTs Now
Maybe they Have to do some work!!!
Ha HA Ha
just keep your mouth shut communicate with pen and paper on any scene away from video and audio detection
A camera on your chest adds weight.
A slow down is coming
Anonymous said...
where is our retro checks
1/25/2015 12:57:00 AM
Friday when everything changes happen!
elected FOP trustees well represented of retirees they sure did answer your dad's retirement question what else were they elected to do for the FOP members?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
O/T...are there Capt.s in Detective Division? And who are they? What do they do? I thought that DW was fired for the Michigan thing but there are two on the querry. Which one is the groping king. Can you be a Capt or XO after such an incident. Wow is that the construction company too? Which one lost and found the missing files? A lot to take in huh. Clouted ....just plain clouted.
1/24/2015 03:43:00 PM
Idiot.....you are just a clueless plain idiot.
1/25/2015 07:45:00 AM
Yeah, that guy John Smith sure gets around a lot also.
I must disagree on the description "plain idiot." The first poster is an extraordinary idiot, a moron of historic proportions.
Anonymous said...
Regarding the Gus Grissom comments. When they were finally able to recover his Mercury capsule about 10 years ago, investigators found the bolts did just blow like Gus said they did.
1/25/2015 07:44:00 AM
Of course they blew, they had to blow for the hatch to blow off like that. The investigation after the event found that to activate the bolts manually required the astronaut to hit the metal trigger with the side of a closed fist, leaving a bruise. Gus has no such bruise so they concluded it was a "technical malfunction"
There was a later flight nicknamed "Molly Brown" as in Unsinkable Molly Brown, in astronaut humor. They were told they could not name it Molly Brown and then decided on Titanic. The name remained Molly Brown.
Body cam footage Muskogee Oklahoma
http://toprightnews.com/?p=8097
"there is no functioning GPS happening in your new APX radios.
"its just a feature that is capable but not implemented.
"OEMC"
1/24/2015 09:10:00 AM
APX-series radio manuals available here -- download free from the manufacturer.
http://www.motorolasolutions.com/US-EN/Support/two-way-radios
RETRO.... Rahm signed the contract on Nov 12...They have 75 days to pay from then. This Monday january 26th is the 75th day.
where is our retro checks
1/25/2015 12:57:00 AM
That is the million dollar question.
Jan 26th? Feb 2nd?
Rahm is yanking hard on our chain.
OT: Thanks to the CD 019 midnight guys for backing me up. It was much appreciated. Stay safe!
1/24/2015 05:06:00 PM
Don't be knocking on Dept. Supt. Byrne like that. He clearly wouldn't hold stock in the company if he didn't believe in their product. I doubt that any of us would come down on you for making legitimate suggestions.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
elected FOP trustees well represented of retirees they sure did answer your dad's retirement question what else were they elected to do for the FOP members?
1/25/2015 11:26:00 AM
Everything!
The trustees for the most part who are still working are useless as they almost have been in the last 20 years. Who's going to take a day time due for a Committee? I'm not. Give up VRI?
Regarding the Gus Grissom comments.
Lay off criticizing Gus. He was a hero that volunteered for an undertaking that was extremely dangerous and possibly very detrimental to his military career. He died in the service of his country.
While the bolts "blew" no one knows exactly why. But the capsule was build by the low bidder on a government contract and there were many complaints about workmanship quality.
Anonymous said...
"Put me down"
Your SGT wasn't really at the scene Video will prove it Big Problems for the SGTs Now
Maybe they Have to do some work!!!
Ha HA Ha
1/25/2015 10:42:00 AM
It is plainly obvious that you do not work in 014.
there is no functioning GPS happening in your new APX radios.
its just a feature that is capable but not implemented.
OEMC
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
We were also told that the in car cameras only record when activated. The truth came out at the FOP meeting on Tuesday that the in car cameras are always recording. The secret is that the hard drive is always in operation.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT. Why are desk personel allowed to smoke e cigarettes at the front desk of the 012th district?
1/24/2015 06:52:00 AM
The city is falling apart and you're worried about THAT?
Anonymous said...
Regarding the Gus Grissom comments.
Lay off criticizing Gus. He was a hero that volunteered for an undertaking that was extremely dangerous and possibly very detrimental to his military career. He died in the service of his country.
While the bolts "blew" no one knows exactly why. But the capsule was build by the low bidder on a government contract and there were many complaints about workmanship quality.
1/26/2015 12:13:00 AM
He is in a place of honor at Arlington National Cemetery. No disrespect meant.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
where is our retro checks
1/25/2015 12:57:00 AM
That is the million dollar question.
Jan 26th? Feb 2nd?
Rahm is yanking hard on our chain.
1/25/2015 06:19:00 PM
Hey, even more important (to me at least!) Where is recent retirees retro checks??
FOP says retro checks wont be in until later in the week and further stated the city has until Feb 2 to deliver the checks
Put a call into the FOP today. They said that the city handed over the retro checks to the comptroller but they are sitting on them, no reason given. Best guess is they should now be issued by 3 FEB 15.
I hope it is like those retro checks we got in around 2002 or 2003. I was due around $7,000 and the City paid me almost $15,000. Turns out I got an interest free loan from the City for almost $8,000 and paid it back 4 years later. They overpaid lots of people. A few got shorted which caused them to audit everyone. When they finally figured out how much they overpaid me and we settled on a suitable payment it was about 4 years later. No one could figure how we got overpaid but overpaid is better than underpaid. Funny thing, no one complained about overpayment. Lots of people bought cars and room additions etc. A few people put the overage in a savings account, figuring they would ask for it back. They did, and they got it but it took a long time.
That City Comptroller, Steve Lux, kept his job and is now Chief Financial Officer of the Chicago Park District.
Nothing would surprise me with this screwed up City.
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