Detail Lawsuit Moves Forward
- A lawsuit alleging the hiring of Mayor Rahm Emanuel's security detail was tainted by racial bias and violated city rules against political hiring will move forward after a federal judge ruled there were indications that politics improperly played a role in how the team was selected.
In his 17-page decision, U.S. District Judge Harry Leinenweber found "sufficient" evidence that Chicago police officials who assembled Emanuel's security team after he took office 2011 relied on a list compiled by a mayoral aide that included the names of six officers who volunteered in his campaign.
The judge also found merit to claims that Terry Hillard, who at the time was the interim police superintendent, and Brian Thompson, the head of the security unit, improperly assembled the new team based on race.
While Hillard and Thompson were the main decision-makers, the allegations surrounding one of Emanuel's first hires as mayor seemed to clash with the image he has tried to cultivate of taking politics out of city hiring.
Of course politics played a role - it always did. These guys had cushy jobs based on politics. None of them were security specialists prior top being appointed to serve Shortshanks. They got $20,000-to-30,000 per year raises based solely on politics. And then they lost the appointed job....on politics. Such is the way the cookie crumbles if your guy leaves. You aren't entitled to these spots. If you had actually taken a test and earned a spot, then they can't take it away on a whim. But this? Ridiculous.
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posted by SCC at 12:33 AM
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Bottom line they got dumped because of their race and politics . One of those you can sue for and they did. They will settle out if court and get what the city owes them.
You know how much ass some of them had to kiss to get that job? They (think that they) earned it.
Those were definitely pure clout spots. SCC-- You hit the nail on the head when you said they got the $20K raise on politics and then lost it on politics. Those guys were getting paid big bucks to shop for Maggie while some were busting their butts off, working late, going to court and fighting crime. No sympathy for this lot.
If you look back on Hillard's tour as Superintendent you will realize that he was the dumbest Superintendent in the last 50 years. He did more harm to this department than imaginable and he laid the way for Daley being forced to hire Weis and then Emmanuel hiring McCarthy.
He was nothing but a lackey for the Mayors both Daley and then Emmanuel!
Hilliard is such an asshole and stupid too ~ he can't spell or even form sentences and I always wondered how he even became superintendent of the CPD!
SCC has historically hated on these guys since this all started...why are you hating on these guys? You are just like those guys who worked a beat car their entire career and bitched why didn't they get any spot!....Quit whining
I remember when they put out a an application to go to the unit and guys were scrambling to get their resumes in order to send them in. Total exercise in futility, but on the bright side their resumes were updated.
Shouldn't one get to choose their own detail? Have officers they actually like and like him in return?
....and it will cost you the taxpayer a bundle. In effect these officers are trying to STEAL YOUR MONEY! They should be treated accordingly.
I really hope these fellas don't settle. The City will offer them sergeant spots when it is time to put Hilliard on the stand.
Terry is a horrible witness in court I can't recall will be stated often!
Of course if cash is offered it is the Cities money why wopuld any exmpt give a rats ass. Beg for punitive!
So can an unclouded mope sue for not being allowed to "bid" for the mayor's detail and collect lost wages over a 16-year career? Didn't think so.
Copper I worked with was on treasurers detail (why does this guy need a another D-3 bodyguard detail and fully equipped unmarked city car?) he told only qualification for job was politics and a 1 day seminars then "promotion," you serve at will of elected protectee like a commander who is "exempt" you get dumped (but not with Gary you stay there no matter how pathetic your performance), your back to civil service rank! The bigger question should be why do you get a pension at the exempt rank? That really needs to be looked into, hey Mike Lappe you need to send out something so we can vote (the pension is depleting we should be able to have a say on how our money is being absconded with),that way we could stop the obvious theft of pension money! Why is Brian Thompson inline for commander pension when he is a patrolman? The city developed a general/special order after this was filed in court, but standards are political. Don't forget when your working any special be it vri, Cta, parks,etc these guys get sergeants pay and overtime here also plus all the overtime on detail,and extra check for uniforms to maintain suits! Why not save money rahm securitas or dig by security could do the same job probably better for 1/8 the cost, you say Chicago is broke put "skin in the game" talk the talk now walk the walk! Aren't buries guys retired coppers making $40,000 a year salary no OT pay? Don't know why he needs drivers and cars but look here rahm big savings for taxpayers!
This job is ALL silly politics. You live by the sword...
Richie Daley continues to pull strings. Maggie Daley Park in Pink. How much for that alone that we Taxpayers paid for and we didn't even get an invite to the event. Oh, that's right...gotta pay Redmoon Theater $175,000.00 to set the Lake on fire. How's those pensions looking?
My heart bleeds for these self serving crybabies. Everyone knows how it works! Hope they all are pushing a beat car in a shithole district! I'm sure if you ask Them how they got there spots they would tell you it was legit! And they deserve it!
SCC, whether you like it or not, two wrongs don't make a right. Your argument that it's OK to launch guys based on politics actually promotes the oligarchy. You are wrong on this one.
Bunch of these people were sent to Homan Square......haven't had a bad day on this job...now a take home car....WOW.
Most people will never get the chance to work in these units but these "special" people got in with absolutely ZERO activity. Zero activity but the rest of us need so much activity.
Really don't understand why these anti-gun politicians need ARMED bodyguards?
Can anyone explain?
Hillard is as dumb as a box of rocks!
Hilliard just got a nice contract with Major League Baseball. Figures.
The4 job "security specialist" is all politics 110% Does the "detail" also have to buy tickets to fundraisers? The job is a great job, new Tahoe style tanks to drive, nice suits, no CR numbers, big paydays whats not to like? The "promotion" process is definitely not a skill level, but a friend program! Why is this pensionable? same pension as a promoted sergeant! Why does the pension board allow this? Hey wait a darn minute isn't the pension money "ours" the money we contributed? Why yes,yes it is! OK! The pension elections are coming and anyone running want to delve into maybe,just maybe send out beside all the campaign mail a card to let us the membership decide about how our pension money should stop at civil service rank? the highest rank would be lieutenant, if your security specialist,commander,xo or any other made up exempt rank the city can pay you whatever but your pension stops at highest rank achieved! Commander of mayors detail=patrolman's pension!Police commander and up=rank pension! Security specialist=Patrolman pension and so on!
as far as lawsuit, the job goes by ho is elected, he/she leaves you leave always has been always will be simple concept! I know a guy as a matter of fact couple of guys who had that rank got dumped,were paid at that salary for a year,city went after them to pay it all back because they were "overpaid!" By law they had to pay thousands back,becuase your not really "promoted!" now if your a sergeant same D-3 category you get dumped but your still a "sergeant" and pay continues get it!got it!good!
Entitlement mentality runs wide and deep in America and grows. Who the hell is going to be left to actually produce by the time this is all done.
I hope they win and get sent back to the detail. The pos that were there and are now in mass transit are whiny crybaby do nothing trouble makers who helped ruin the 3 rd watch. Yeah I'm talking about u C.W.
Not bad, get a 30k raise, kick back 15k to the City Hall Communist Democrat Cabal, cheat the Taxpayers, and come out 15 k ahead of the Game every year.
Whats a little Official Misconduct among "friends"?
They are liable to get some money from this, as bodyguards in the past have sued for overtime pay and have received it. Everybody knows that this detail is purely based on who you know, everybody that is except the public and the federal judge. Maybe it is about time to stop paying these bodyguards sergeants and commanders pay that is pensionable? But, this case will cause some grief because as I understand it, Uncle Terry and Thompson ( who people are saying is related to Hillard), dumped the 11 white guys but kept the 6 black guys. It seems that Hillard is and has been very much focused on race ( look at what he did with the first captains selection process and the idiots he made commander when he was made super).
a bunch of clouted assholes who had it good for whatever time they were on the detail,,,,,back to your unit like the rest of us
An old timer told me long ago, " you got this spot cause the last guy got launched...someday your gonna get launched." ♠️
as a white po from the northwest side i give a flying f-ck in order to get into the detail unit you had to have alot of wack in live in either 11th or 19th wards i hate both wards n im glad i live in the 41st ward and work in 016 unit, prior to that i did the ghetto for 15yrs
Report: Black troopers reassigned from Cuomo detail
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/albany/2014/09/8552500/report-black-troopers-reassigned-cuomo-detail
Cuomo got away with it. I guess Rahm thought he could too.
My question for New York... why were so many black troopers assigned to the previous black governor?
Entitled Strokes
SCC - you are so totally right. Hey, if you're connected you get the gigs. So now they're out, too bad so sad.
I'll kick in to buy the whole security team a bottle of cheap vodka every day only if they drink it down.
I wonder how the tomato crop came in this year? Rahm? What do you say, good tomatoes?
I agree it's a political position but when you tell them they are dumped because they are white and Hispanic it becomes discriminatory and a civil rights issue. I hope they win big
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/982815/deadbeat-judge-irs-hounds-cook-county-judge
and these cook county judges are the ones with the power to release criminals themselves.
"The bigger question should be why do you get a pension at the exempt rank? That really needs to be looked into, hey Mike Lappe you need to send out something so we can vote (the pension is depleting we should be able to have a say on how our money is being absconded with),that way we could stop the obvious theft of pension money!"
Mike Lappe would have to first understand what any of this means, second he would have to get off his ass and send something out other than his glorified self promoting re-election shit, third he is in love with Kurt and the gang. He wants to be on team Midget when he is forced to retire in a year+. Why the fuck do you think he would help us?
I hope they win and get sent back to the detail. The pos that were there and are now in mass transit are whiny crybaby do nothing trouble makers who helped ruin the 3 rd watch. Yeah I'm talking about u C.W.
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Don't forget about RS and what a loudmouth POS he is!
as a white po from the northwest side i give a flying f-ck in order to get into the detail unit you had to have alot of wack in live in either 11th or 19th wards i hate both wards n im glad i live in the 41st ward and work in 016 unit, prior to that i did the ghetto for 15yrs
10/03/2015 12:09:00 PM
Wow you are my hero, you are the only copper who ever worked in the ghetto 15 years
Back in the Days of Daley, not one of his guards had any specialized training that would allow them to be more qualified then any other copper, While I was a Sgt. in SOS we had many dignitary details and some of the guys wanted to get paid out of grade as a security specialists, well this didn't go over well and never happened. I explained to them that the overtime would well compensate them, but then some boss decided that all of the SOS people and the mayors detail should be trained, we were trained by the State Police Lt. John Mack who certified us after a 40 hour block of training. The mayors guys were the biggest jag offs ever during this training complaining that they didn't need this training, but not one of them really impressed me. Biggest cry baby was Doyle, I don't remember his first name, next was some clown from the southside, a Burke guy!!!!!! I believe that the mayor can pick who he wants top be that close to him during his tenure. This job is not a career service tested spot. Fuck these crybabies
Race should not be the deciding factor. No one should get transferred to make room for campaign volunteers.
If the city can use race here and you think it's cool, do not bitch when they openly use race to discriminate against you.
These f'in crybabies seem to quickly forget that someone got dumped when THEY were put on the detail!
Now they get dumped & they sue???
"Ya live by the sword, ya die by the sword".
That stupid P.O./Commander told them you're only sin is the color of your skin
If I was the city's lawyer I'd ask the plantiffs on the stand how exactly they got hired to that spot in the first place.
Rahm just PAY for Your OWN Security PLATOON
Save the taxpayers Millions
What a joke.
This lawsuit is completely without merit.
The old saying "live by the sword, die by the sword" comes to mind.
These clowns originally got their spots by phone calls, political favors etc. and now it's suddenly not fair?
When Shortshanks took over in 89 every one of Harold's detail was launched.
It's the changing of the guard and the nature of the beast.
They shouldn't get nothing just a bunch of crybaby's when there clout ran out
6:44am.....seems to me that these privileged suck asses who are involved in this lawsuit are the WHINERS!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not bad, get a 30k raise, kick back 15k to the City Hall Communist Democrat Cabal, cheat the Taxpayers, and come out 15 k ahead of the Game every year.
10/03/2015 10:51:00 AM
Well, yeah, those numbers work well if you're not paying income taxes.
I don't get it ? They got their details based on clout. A new regime came in - brought in their own people. Now they want the extra $ - should have never got extra $ to begin with. They are p.o's with a clout job - at the end of the day they are p.o's. No reason to pay then extra.
Regardless of one's personal opinion of the individuals involved in the lawsuit, the lawsuit, in and of itself, is not frivolous. Rather, the case concerns both Title VII of the EEOC and the tenets of Shakman. It cannot be denied that individuals were dumped based on their race. Thompson stated: "your sin is the color if your skin." Furthermore, the positions were NOT Shakman exempt.
This lawsuit is moving forward based on one copper saying that Thompson told him 'it's the color of your skin' that got you dumped - is that correct? Did Thompson admit that he said that?
Too many guys study orders but do not read into FED employee laws. The City has all sort of stuff on the books that is illegal. But nobody wants to scrape together 3k-5k for a lawsuit.
Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (yep the city is suspending you for not paying a water bill and threatening to fire you!) But you will pay!
Now hillards daughter will make merit Sgt in the next class. Just like every other supts kid they get at least one promotion no matter what
I think a main point of this lawsuit is that if the entire detail that was dumped were black, and replaced by white officers, this would've been national news with Jesse and Al leading the charge against a racist Police Dept.
Hilliard is a affirmative action boss who never passed a promotion test. Everybody said he was such a nice guy, but it turns out he was in fact a hater. Could you imagine if a white boss did this in reverse??
The person that people forget about is Jim Keating , the person who stood in the shadows and helped select who would make it to Rahms detail . Jimmy who was rewarded with cushy jobs such as the park district , Navy Pier and finally the head of security for the
CTA. The selection of who was picked was determined by Hillard and Keating . Jimmy also made sure that absolutely no friends of Sam Roti , the former disgraced commander of the detail who was banished because he took money to promote a former detail member and who was strong arming businesses in Bridgeport .
Keating more than anyone should be named but he won't . This guy should be in court and have to explain what he did !!!
Rahm really should pay his own security force. The fact that he doesn't is a complete conflict of interest. Anywhere else it would be anyway.
Why does Daly still have a security detail? I hear they even taxi his kids and relatives around with a city car and our tax money.
SCC has historically hated on these guys since this all started...why are you hating on these guys? You are just like those guys who worked a beat car their entire career and bitched why didn't they get any spot!....Quit whining
Well, I'm one of those guys who have pushed a beat car their entire career. I have never begrudged an officer who had a phone call and used it. You'd be a fool not to.
But the ones that use that phone call and then, for what ever reason, get dumped back to the streets and CRY AND BITCH about it. No sympathy here.
Ok so lets get this right its ok to get this position because of clout but if you get it because of the color of your skin its a lawsuit ?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Back in the Days of Daley, not one of his guards had any specialized training that would allow them to be more qualified then any other copper, While I was a Sgt. in SOS we had many dignitary details and some of the guys wanted to get paid out of grade as a security specialists, well this didn't go over well and never happened. I explained to them that the overtime would well compensate them, but then some boss decided that all of the SOS people and the mayors detail should be trained, we were trained by the State Police Lt. John Mack who certified us after a 40 hour block of training. The mayors guys were the biggest jag offs ever during this training complaining that they didn't need this training, but not one of them really impressed me. Biggest cry baby was Doyle, I don't remember his first name, next was some clown from the southside, a Burke guy!!!!!! I believe that the mayor can pick who he wants top be that close to him during his tenure. This job is not a career service tested spot. Fuck these crybabies
10/03/2015 02:34:00 PM
Anyone who says "when I was a sergeant in SOS," can never call another police officer a jagoff. Ever.
There were police officers that were black that were kept on the detail . Rahms detail was not as big as Daley's simply because of his family was smaller . As a result there were A smaller number of police officers to be selected . Daley had recently replaced both commanders and that's how Hillard was brought back . Jim Keating was calling the shots and selected Brian Thompson who had worked for Daley and had been in charge on several occasions . Keating and Hillard decided who was gonna be on what detail . Daley has about four police officers assigned to him who later lost their positions . Hillard never helped anyone while he was in charge . Keating never took a lieutenant exam yet made commander which never happens . This man should be fired and never have any connections with the city ever again !
Anonymous said...
Hilliard is a affirmative action boss who never passed a promotion test. Everybody said he was such a nice guy, but it turns out he was in fact a hater. Could you imagine if a white boss did this in reverse??
10/03/2015 11:19:00 PM
I agree completely. The people who he promoted since he was appointed to superintendent showed that. And, I won't even go into what occurred when Uncle Terry was chief of detectives, a job that he was totally unqualified for.
Anonymous said...
When Shortshanks took over in 89 every one of Harold's detail was launched.
It's the changing of the guard and the nature of the beast.
10/03/2015 05:33:00 PM
Yes, you are correct. But, maybe it is time for some change in this. If you are going to use the pension system to reward the clouted, then make the body guard detail promotable based on an exam and oral boards and possibly a test of physical abilities since they must be in good shape to protect the mayor and family. Have the evaluation run by an outside agency. If not, then eliminate the pension promotions. Or, better still, get rid of most of the detail. I think if you look at what other major cities are doing you will find Chicago, is as usual, far exceeding the norm in bodyguards for the clouted political class.
Unless you're a certain retired Captain that filed a lawsuit saying she was passed over for promotion to Captain an appointed rank. She won to the tune of 300k.
But needs scholarships to put her kid through school?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The person that people forget about is Jim Keating , the person who stood in the shadows and helped select who would make it to Rahms detail . Jimmy who was rewarded with cushy jobs such as the park district , Navy Pier and finally the head of security for the
CTA. The selection of who was picked was determined by Hillard and Keating . Jimmy also made sure that absolutely no friends of Sam Roti , the former disgraced commander of the detail who was banished because he took money to promote a former detail member and who was strong arming businesses in Bridgeport .
Keating more than anyone should be named but he won't . This guy should be in court and have to explain what he did !!!
10/03/2015 11:42:00 PM
Multiple pensions Jimmy! Superstar! King of Segways! This lad was close to old man daley, old man daley close to jimmy's dad,and Richie took care of him bigtime! Hillard and thompson though those 2 guys certainly seem racist in the moves! But then again it was political appointment, and then another
The main problem with this BS is why are patrolman on security detail receiving sargeant pay and why is the head of security detail receiving commander pay .
A real sergeant should run detail and officers should receive patrolman pay , maybe an extra check for uniform allowance to buy suits.
All this extra hush money is draining the pension , pension should be changed , if you didn't earn the promotion , pay raise by passing a test , no increase in pension. Medical time over 12 days a year should be deducted from time on the job ,toward pension fund .
I always liked Terry Hilliard. He is a gentleman. And I can tell you for a fact that his friend Harvey Radney did everything he possibly could to help policemen in trouble.
Regardless of politics, these guys are with him and his family 24/7. He has the right to pick who he wants. That said if he chooses poorly, it's his fault if shtf and he's got politicians between him and serious trouble.
Hillard was a great disappointment.
Minter Bennett would of said to his great disappointment that Hillard had "pee pee balls" because laid down and worshiped the FBI and failed to stand up for his troops.
Most of those guys suing were heavily connected.They were from 11th ward or 19th ward and thought they were of entitelement status.A friend knows some and said they were the racist ones.I can totally see a Bridgeport guy say what the commander allegedly said.Especially the ones from 11th ward.If a commander goes to a new district he or she chooses a new tact Lt,Sgt ect.Why do they think they get this job for life.Be grateful you had the opportunity to even be on a detail that most PO'S never ever have had the chance to be on.The gravy train has left ! Move on !
The detail is an appointed position hence the term "detail". So get your mouth shut and push a beat car!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
When Shortshanks took over in 89 every one of Harold's detail was launched.
It's the changing of the guard and the nature of the beast.
10/03/2015 05:33:00 PM Sawyer kept two guards, and Father Pleger got another two of Harolds detail, the rest were launched. But why is Daly given an entire detail to drive his kids and relatives around on our taxes.
Hillard was the dumbest most racist superintendent CPD ever had. The man is and always was a goof. I hold a special place in my heart after good old Terry said" can't fuck the black officer without fucking the white boy too." Only problem the white guys were on duty and were 100% right and the black copper was off duty and 100% wrong. Sure didn't matter to old "Semper Fi" Terry all he saw was race. The man is a disgrace to CPD and surely a disgrace to the USMC
Anonymous said...
"I always liked Terry Hilliard. He is a gentleman. And I can tell you for a fact
that his friend Harvey Radney did everything he possibly could to help
policemen in trouble."
10/04/2015 06:40:00 PM
Don't be fooled.
Hillard was/is an intellectually disinterested snake
who took pains to brick a more than a few sharp
black sergeants and lieutenants who were natural
leaders and should have been in the next wave of
bosses instead of the crooks and incompetents
we've come to know. One of which is rumored to
be engaged in high-level "talks" to come back and
be slid into the Superintendent's chair.
Misery if he does...
He's a vindictive, "little man's disease" afflicted asshole
and he WILL be going over the alpha-roster for payback.
Hillard had a real problem with people he perceived as being
smarter, more qualified and better credentialed than he was.
He "tolerated" Radney because there were too many power
players who were Radney fans. Not hard to imagine because
he was a decent and approachable guy and a fair boss who
exercised some initiative.
Hillard needed cue cards from City Hall except for when
it came to danking on some blue shirted ass.
A little birdie reported that Hillard, on his last day, signed off
on every suspension and termination in his in-box...
Yeah... It needs to be done but it came across like a
goodly sized F/U.
They wanted to give Radney the Super spot but he looked
around at the resident Exempt echelon and looked at City Hall
and said, "Fuckdat."
...Smart man.
He was able to read a situation
to his advantage.
Hmmm...
Hillard's doing good for himself.
Did Unca Terry ever actually get his P.I.
license?
Maybe D2 pay for officers on detail but no more then that. I can't believe chuck Gowrie or other members of press never bring this up.
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